Is Obama a continuation of what began with Lamont and carried through the 2006 election?

[underpants]

The pundits can't seem to figure this whole thing out. Not the brightest lot of people I know but they can't come up with an explanation, for crying out loud THERE IS NO NARRATIVE!!!

Why? Why can't they figure it out? It only takes one of them to set the spark and the rest of them run out of the dinner party to file the next day' groupthink memo and stave off the ever present fear actually being able to create fire by themselves...or an independent thought

We saw the destruction of a major US city and hanging over the whole situation just off to the side of grim death was race. But that didn't get the lily white press to talk about it. Now we have a major Presidential candidate and they still don't want to talk about it. Are they really waiting to play this card after the nomiination?

Just like they didn't want to talk about race they never talked about the unprecedented level of corruption the Republicans have brought on themselves (following their failure to bring it on the Clinton administration). Then it was in every top 2 of important issues to voters in 2006 but still after Friday of that week no one in DC talks about it.

So how to talk about Obama (I mean how is it that he could be beating one of their own so consistently??) There must be something...

We have had
"really stirs up the YOUTH"
"cult"
"cult of peronality"
"confident almost cocky"
now it is
"blank page" or "black palette"

They can't figure it out.

The old line is that the last to get the joke didn't realize it was about them. Well it may just be about them: the pundits, DC, how things are done, the corruption, the petty bickering and maneuvering form-over-function, they just don't get it.

Connecticut has never been a bastion of radicals. When they are willing to not nominate their sitting Senator to his FOURTH term you know the villagers are unhappy.

And now Obama. It's like he is a blank pallette
or something.

[IndieLeft]

1. Well, for 7 years they have had their jobs done for them.

Bush cronies just tell them what to say. They've gotten lazy. Plus, I just don't think that they're all that smart.

I think Obama is part of a movement. I think that a lot of people are sick of the politics of divsion. And I don't mean between democrats. I mean the whole country.

I think they are sick of being played against each other. I know I am.
I think they are sick of being scared. Obama represents change from all of that. A clean break from politics as usual.

[underpants]

4. I meant to put in the OP that Obama offers nothing radically new in terms of policy

He is just NOT THEM

Edwards of course was THEM but he would have been a great NOT THEM but the DC punditry and MSM clearly decided to freeze him out. Everything was set for Hillary and McCain (because of Allen's loss and because well their was no real viable candidate other than him once Rudy thought he could sell product without advertising) and *POFF* here is Obama and they have no idea how to deal with thim.

[LisaM]

2. But with Lamont, it was the Democratic voters who elected him in the primary

It was the Republicans and Independents who crossed over in the general to defeat him - particularly when Lieberman then abandoned his party. I've heard this analogy before and unless I'm really confused (highly possible) it doesn't seem correct.

[underpants]

5. Yes there are problems with this idea

one being that McCain is anything but not an insider. The lack of any real alternative is one solution of this the other is that Fred didn't seem to care and Rudy thought he really was AMERICA'S MAYOR :eyes:

[underpants]

10. I should have read this article by EJ Dionne

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=338273&mesg_id=338273

[mmonk]

3. For some.

[MADem]

6. General Electric wants McCain. So do the rest of the media with war connections.

They need to wind down this Iraq business, just keeping a quiet boot on their neck, perhaps multinationally, because everyone's pissed off at that adventure, and ramp back up the good old Star Wars-Cold War paradigm. They can only do that with POPEYE in charge.

That "shooting down the satellite" business? That's part of ACT ONE, which responds to the "Russkie Bombers buzz the Nimitz" opening act of this Great New Superpower Play of the 21st Century.

Once they get that business underway, the US and Russia can continue selling arms to proxy nations, and we can take one giant step backwards, fighting mini-wars using other nations, AND making a bundle selling arms to them as well.

'Business as usual!'

[underpants]

7. Great post

:thumbsup:

[MADem]

9. I wish it weren't so...!

Meet the New Boss....



Same as the Old Boss?

[JorgeTheGood]

8. Yup -- the republicans have

co-opted the democratic voting system by crossing over in the open primary and caucus states.

That's why all the cons are scratching their heads about how McCain got the nomination (soon) -- they were so busy crossing over to defeat Hillary, they forgot to guard their own candidate ... LOL -- you can't make this stuff up.

With the present system, there is a better than even chance the dems will never take back the White House. All the cons need to do is cross-over vote for the weakest candidate and then run a whisper campaign and MSM campaign against that candidate, once nominated. Pretty easy and Obama is a class study of that maneuver.