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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:51 PM
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List of Superdelegates switching from Clinton.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM by Infinite Hope
Switch from Clinton to Obama:
1)DNC Member Christine Samuels (Yesterday) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23182117/
2)Congressman David Scott (Yesterday) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23182117/

Switch from Clinton to uncommitted:
1)Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania today (Yesterday - May duplicate #1 or 2 here from the MSNBC report)
2)Nancy Larson of Minnesota (Yesterday)

Additional: MSNBC is reporting 2 superdelegates from Pennsylvania have now switched. I caught the story at the end so I didn't hear who. This number may include Sophie Masloff above and so one may be a duplicate.

I predicted after Super Tuesday that early Clinton superdelegates would begin switching and sure enough...

Please provide additions in comments as they come out in the next couple days.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:53 PM
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This is all lies
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 04:53 PM by mkultra
This kind of talk is misogynistic. Way to drink the Koolaid
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:55 PM
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2. Nice RW bumper sticker.
:eyes:
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:55 PM
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27. nice RW brain
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:56 PM
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3. How is it misogynistic?
There is no proof at all that it has to do with gender? This is quite a stretch.

And I'm not a Clinton supporter.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:00 PM
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6. I'm guessing there was an implied sarcasm tag.
That post sounded like a parody of many, many ... many other posts at DU.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:55 PM
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28. well done, you get a cookie
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:01 PM
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7. A couple are unconfirmed. Some are confirmed from the individuals themselves.
n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:53 PM
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1. got any links for your assumptions?....John Lewis said "he is not switching his vote"
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:00 PM
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5. That's why the disclaimer exists currently.
I read it wasn't confirmed. Now I see a staffer said he hasn't yet. Also, I have to confirm whether the one Penn. superdelegate is a duplicate. I think only 4 have changed total, so I'm currently sorting it all out. This is a new entry so calm yourself down. If you want to be rationale rather than reactionary, you could assist as the original post requests of people.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:04 PM
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8. At this time...he may still switch in the future.
He has not guaranteed his vote will go to Hillary.

http://www.ajc.com/master/content/news/stories/2008/02/15/lewis_0215.html
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:23 PM
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16. John Lewis switched his vote today, 2/15/08: link
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 05:27 PM by Melinda
According to this report:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004183861_campdig15.html?syndication=rss

<snip>

Pro-Clinton lawmakers switch to Obama

MILWAUKEE — Rep. John Lewis, an elder statesman from the civil-rights era and one of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent black supporters, said Thursday night he planned to cast his vote as a superdelegate for Sen. Barack Obama in hopes of preventing a Democratic convention fight.

"In recent days, there is a sense of movement and a sense of spirit," said Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who endorsed Clinton last fall and who carries great influence among other members of Congress. "Something is happening in America, and people are prepared and ready to make that great leap."

His comments came as fresh signs emerged that Clinton's support was beginning to erode from other African-American lawmakers who also serve as superdelegates. Georgia Rep. David Scott said earlier Thursday that he would not go against the will of voters in his district, who overwhelmingly supported Obama last week.

Lewis said he and other prominent African-American party leaders had been moved by Obama's recent victories and his ability to transcend racial and geographic lines.

<end snip>

FWIW, Tweety is reporting the same thing today. However, a review of all news regarding Rep Lewis and his support of Obama seems to be all over the place. I think we'll all have to wait for a direct statement from Rep. Lewis to know the truth of the matter.

*edited to add my own 2 cents.

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:26 PM
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17. oh right..... the cut and paste media like the Pope is infallible
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:29 PM
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18. Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger. You asked for a link, I gave ya one.
Go figure.
:shrug:
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:00 PM
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4. this is great news!!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:04 PM
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9. Don't get your panties bunched up just yet...
We have 6 months until the Democratic Convention in August..

Nothing is signed in ink and sealed.

Are you worried that the Drones will leave the hive by then? All the honey used up?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:07 PM
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11. Long grueling months for Hillary
Loss after loss, and diminishing the Clinton name. I hope she stays till the convention. :thumbsup:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:53 PM
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24. You know, you sound like a DU'er
from 2004...when the venomous strike was at *bush. For Chrissake,read back to yourself what you just said.....(with noted orgasmic glee I might add).

snip>

" loss after loss diminishing the Clinton name"....If you don't see anything wrong with that tone then, well; You really are a part of the Borg Collective.....

Hell, go smoke you cigartette......
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:22 PM
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25. And you sound like your normal, charming self
:hi:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Why thank you darling.
I just had my nails done.O8) :hi:
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:08 PM
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12. This will be decided long before then
The Democratic Party will not go 6 months without a nominee. You can count on that.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM
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13. It's appearing that way. n/t
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:15 PM
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15. that's what i think will happen
by august the obama followers will be off to something new.... the super delegates will go to hillary....they probly will go to her even if the drones are still buzzing around.....obama can't win the ge too many independents...his main supporters will vote mccain....that will leave him with the pure democrats who have so many litmus tests for candidates that nobody with a record of any kind of achievement will be tolerable.....he'll carry a few of the biggest bluest states...and get blown out in the rest.....the moneyed interests aren't going to let a bunch of chanting 25 year olds....who want hope change and to hug puppies blow this...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:07 PM
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10. Georgia Labor Commissioner Michael Thurmond is waffling as well.
Says that his endorsement of her does not guarantee her his vote as a superdelegate.

http://www.ajc.com/master/content/news/stories/2008/02/15/lewis_0215.html
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:11 PM
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14. That must be the Georgia superdelegate I saw on the MSNBC ticker, but missed the whole story.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 05:12 PM by Infinite Hope
So many endorsed early simply because there wasn't believed to be a legitimate national alternative, it was obvious to me (and probably anyone with the ability to reason) they'd begin rethinking after Super Tuesday.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:30 PM
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19. We can thank jesse jackass jr and his RACIST hate speech
Read about how Jesse Jackass Jr. said of Clinton superdels that they will "go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House" WHY IS IT ABOUT ELECTING A BLACK? WHY CAN'T IT BE ABOUT ELECTING a PRESIDENT!!!!! black or white, who gives a fuck!!! its about getting someone with a D next to their name, and who has the strength to actually get legislation. We can thank anti-white racism for this campaign, spinning all anti-obama remarks to be "racism".
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:08 PM
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21. Link please if you are going to sound off
oh and what you are saying and the way you are saying it might be read as "racebaiting"

Don't thank me, I'm not expecting it
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:15 PM
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22. Yes, that's why they switched. [rolls eyes] n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:41 AM
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30. Isn't it about electing a White person over electing a person who
has gotten the most popular votes.
Your post is so full of hate and vitriol, it is useless.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:46 AM
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31. it is so foolish to accuse Jackson of "racism"
the ruling elite in this nation is overwhelmingly white. Jackson can be wrong (though i don't think he is) but i think to accuse him of racism shows you don't know the meaning of the word.

and to call it "hate speech" is just nonsense.

get over it. the clinton's day has passed.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:04 AM
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35. racism is racism from either whites or blacks
just because the "ruling elite" happens to be white, it is still racism to wanna vote for someone of a different color SOLELY because he is a different color, as Jackson makes clear about Obama. Also, the "ruling elite" is not mostly white because of racism, it is that way because 70 percent of all americans are non-hispanic whites according. If you throw hispanic whites in there, it is even higher, at 75 percent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_demographics_of_the_United_States#White_Americans . Therefore, if a person goes into government, or as you put, the "ruling elite", they have a 76 percent chance of being white. that is not because anyone is trying to oppress reproduction of black people, it is that most of this country is white. if I lived in some african country, and wanted to elect a president just because he was one of the few white guys in a black nation, i would probably be called a racist. why is it any different here.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:47 AM
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36. ohhhhh god.
"ruling elite" is not mostly white because of racism"

What planet are you from?
somebody ought to sit you down and tell you the story of the USA.

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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:09 AM
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37. i'm talking about today, at this moment of time
not about history. today blacks have equal opportunity de jure. if they are using it to the best of their ability, than demographics surely IS the reason why there are not as many powerful blacks as whites.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:36 PM
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38. i still don't think you know how the USA works.
you think everyone starts out equal? has equal opportunity? you think anyone can make it to the "top"?
there is no such thing as white privilege?
think again.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:46 PM
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39. but what I am saying is that whites aren't so evil
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 05:47 PM by DiamondJay
altho minorities do start out with unfair advantages, we already do what we can to help, affirmative action, etc., and sometimes we even go too far with affirmative action. But what gets me is that people complain that there are too many whites in power and that somehow it can be changed, ignoring the fact that three quarters of americans are white. so naturally there are going to be more whites at the top.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:02 PM
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41. ??? where did i say "whites were evil"? btw, in
california, White non-hispanic is under 50%.

and most of us should be challenging the ruling elite. they do not serve our interests, they serve only their own... keeping the rich, rich.
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:15 PM
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42. why challenge them by race tho?
as your main complaint about them is that they are almost all white, yes we should challenge them, but the answer is not to say "oh they should be of a different race" as if changing their skin color will change their tendencies. it should be challenged by political ideology, and by who can get things done, which is the most important, imo
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:57 AM
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34. They will go down in history as preventing the first African American IF
they ignore pledged delegates to hand it to Hillary! That is a FACT! If he loses fair and square because the voters choose her then that is one thing. If Super Delegates make that decision is quite another. Oh and make no mistake. Blacks WILL NOT easily forgive that! This is one black woman that will not!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 PM
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20. Sophie Masloff?
Sophie was the Mayor of Pittsburgh in the late 80s, early 90s.
What a voice (seriously, it could shatter glass).
I hadn't heard she endorsed Sen. Clinton, although she is a 90 year old Jewish grandma, so she fits the demographic.
This is good news for Obama in Pittsburgh.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:18 PM
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23. Interesting. I didn't know anything about her background. Thanks for sharing. n/t
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:01 PM
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26. New York Times with quotes from John Lewis on supporting Obama.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 08:04 PM by Infinite Hope
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?em&ex=1203138000&en=8f611eb3382183d3&ei=5087%0A

The net total is:
Clinton -5
Obama +3


Also referenced here:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/14/212726/261/563/457081
"UPDATE: As pointed out in the diary posted just before mine, Rep. John Lewis is switching from Clinton to Obama as well. This makes his total net delegate margin gain from the defections a +8"

Also at the Boston Globe:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/15/key_superdelegate_switches_to_obama/
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:24 AM
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32. There's a tsunami coming, and the little schooner Hillary had better get to shore
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:29 AM
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33. It sounds like many of them are getting cold feet.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:48 PM
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40. The list of Superdelegates switching from Hill to Obama is growing like her nose.
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