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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:42 PM
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NYTimes: "Clinton Goes All-Out Negative in New Ad"
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/clinton-goes-all-out-negative-in-new-ad/

link above has video, including a must see Hillary counter to Obama's Black Eyed Peas vid where she stars as a rock star in a fictional band.

SNIP:

Updated The battle of the airwaves has definitely hit Wisconsin; after the first round of back-and-forth in TV ads over why-no-debate in the state whose primary is Tuesday, the campaign of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has taken a decidedly negative, may we say spine-chilling swing, in this next round.

The new ad not only calls out Mr. Obama for refusing the debate invitation, but it also reiterates her contention that his health care plan would leave 15 million Americans without coverage.

The Clinton ad also slams Mr. Obama for his vote in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, which the ad says provided “billions in Bush giveaways to the oil companies.”

Finally, the ad cites a May 2007 ABC News story suggesting Mr. Obama “might raise the retirement age and cut benefits for Social Security.”
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:45 PM
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1. Funny the Oil & Gas Industry supports Hillary:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:49 PM
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3. and she's inviting a rebuttal ad that will be nothing short of embarrassing for her
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:12 PM
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20. Nay, painful.
:hurts:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:54 PM
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6. And pharma, and insurance...
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:48 PM
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2. She's desperate, she has to go negative. What else does she got?
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:51 PM
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4. When all else fails
Scare old people. That's when you know a campaign is in trouble.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:53 PM
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5. If its a day late and a dollar short
it has connections to the Clinton campaign.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:57 PM
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7. Obama has been negative since day one
Why she's handled him so politely to this point, I cannot say. I do say, however, please hit this Obama character hard.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:06 PM
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14. You know thats not true
Please show me one Negative Obama ad. Just one
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:08 PM
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16. go goggle some AP articles last 2-4 weeks.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:10 PM
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17. ....
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:12 PM
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22. Thats negative?
LMAO
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:16 PM
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30. Well lets see
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:26 PM by DemGa
He calls her a liar, and claims she's tainted because of the right-wing attacks she's endured. Also blames the Clintons for Dem losses in the nineties -- again, conveniently leaving out the right-wing attack machine.

Your Obama is a slick man indeed.

And here's an ongoing compendium of negative attacks from Dear Obama: http://www.attacktimeline.com/
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:23 PM
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54. the truth hurts Team Hillary
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:23 PM
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36. Agree, he has been
He's done it so consistently that people see it as the norm for him.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:46 PM
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47. Time to take the gloves off!
Hillary Clinton's ad is only the tip of the iceberg; can't come none to soon. Obama, like his "fans" are weak in character; weak on issues, weak on "thinking for themselves", and weak on debating the real issues. Obama stutters without a script and teleprompter.:crazy: That's why the guy won't debate, :hide: he's all fluff. Obama is about Obama, the Kool-aid crowd :beer: are about Obama--neither CARE about the American people's basic needs. Its all about "them". What a bunch of egomaniacs.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 05:59 PM
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8. That rock band Hillary ad is just plain bad.

REALLY bad. Maybe Putin is right, Hillary has lost her head.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:10 PM
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18. oh, if you think the Rock Band is bad, check this out:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 PM
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26. Oh my God. I only made it 21 seconds in, and stopped it. Couldn't take anymore.
Oh Jesus...:rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 PM
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31. OK, I saw the rest. Oh, man. Bookmarking for my husband--he's going to piss his pants.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:32 PM
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43. how did you like the Zoom shots of the Sax player?
well I do declare, that looked like a young Billy Clinton blowing that sweet music!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:38 PM
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46. Bwahhh!! I noticed that too! And the cheezy dancers...oh Lord...
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:16 PM
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29. Was this put out by the Clinton campaign?
Yikes!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:24 PM
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38. "Hillary 4 U and Me" doesn't seem to be from the campaign. NT
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:24 PM by Eric J in MN
NT
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:17 PM
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32. Wow! I didn't even know they HAD YouTube in 1992!
:crazy:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:20 PM
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34. I am brought to mind of Up With People. Or "Full House". Or something else
I would deeply like to forget.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:46 PM
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48. I just saw that on Tucker. It's pretty freakin' lame. Plus, Utah already voted..
:evilgrin:
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:19 PM
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52. zomg lmao! n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:34 PM
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56. If Obama doesn't buy airtime for that ad, he's an idiot
ZOMG. :rofl:
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:24 PM
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37. wow. I hope the rock band ad was done BEFORE she shook up her advisor team.....
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:47 PM
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49. Yeah. Would be pitiful to think a NEW advisor came up with it. nt
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:01 PM
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62. lol i assume that ad is the REASON for the "shuffling" of her online team :D
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:02 PM
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9. This is the same old politics as usual.
It will do nothing but reinforce Hillary's image as an old-time Washington politician who will do and say anthing to get elected.

I believe Wisconsin voters are smarter than to fall for such a cheap, insulting, demeaning attack on their intelligence.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:05 PM
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12. Jinx!

I see we think alike.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:12 PM
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21. I am so sick of the Clintons and their perennial drama!
I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary camp were to put out a Willie Horton type of ad.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:02 PM
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10. And to keep harping on this debate thing

what, does she think Wisconsinites are stupid or something? I'm
sure this kind of behavior WILL turn them off. She's setting herself
up to being a star in a non-flattering documentary (Bill wil be the
co-star).

I'm sorry Hillary fans, but I couldn't resist after this.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:49 AM
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63. i know!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:02 PM
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11. well if it worked so well for Romney
might as well try it.

:sarcasm:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:06 PM
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13. sophomoric
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:06 PM
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15. Good for Hillary---Obama went NEG. a few weeks ago. GO HILL.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:11 PM
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19. How so? For suggesting she show her tax returns?

There is desperation in the air. This is the beginning of the BIG slide.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 PM
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25. Yeah! What are the Clintons hiding by not disclosing their tax returns?
Could it be.... SAUDI money?
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:22 PM
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53. And the cheeky friendship
between Obama and his slum-lord "pal" Rezko. (Hey, isn't Rezko SAUDI). Heard Obama and the wife purchased their house from his long lost friend, Rezko. Sad, isn't it; maybe instead of pointing figures over to the Clintons, maybe the freaks over at the Obama Land Fantasy World should "cleanup" their own house (pun intended) first.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:12 PM
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23. Where?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 PM
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24. Go Hill,
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:13 PM
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27. Just like when Billary did the Sopranos knock-off piece...
...They're just soooo derivative. It has no spark because there's limited creativity behind it.
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nomorewhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:58 PM
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57. i liked that sopranos ad :D
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:14 PM
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28. From Crier-in-Chief to Liar-in-Chief to Whiner-in-Chief. She's a real piece of work.
waaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

She's an embarrassment.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:19 PM
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33. Did anyone really expect Hillary to run a positive campaign? n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:22 PM
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35. Good ad, excellent job
She's asking legitimate questions, while keeping a very civil and professional tone.

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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:28 PM
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40. I just wish she could do it without lying about Obama's record
She could bring up legitimate differences between them but instead she resorts to lies, distortion and smear. It's a true sign of desperation on her part.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:05 PM
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51. And you post
suggests what??? Has the Obama supporters played it cool. No friggin' way. Obama supporters have actually brought the DU board "way down" to a whole new level. Obama talks the talk, but can't walk the walk, Simple as that.

What lies? what distortions are you referring too; his voting record is there for anyone to see; his idea of "universal" health-care WILL leave millions out in the cold; take the time to look at his record; if you really care. But chances are you won't; after all you just might find some truth. How many election processes have you actually followed anyway; getting to the truth is what this process is; not a continuous "pep rally".

Hey, sometimes the truth hurts. His constant pandering of the republicans really turned me off; his inability to address issues (he's confused and stutters without his script; and when he is faced with a "real" questions, he really shows his lack of "concern" for the American people. Obama just loves Obama way too much.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:20 PM
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60. Unlike you, I have actually read Obama's 67 page platform
We're talking about HRC's attack ads, not some idiots on DU. She distorts his record in every single claim she makes in that ad.

The truth hurts, indeed. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:05 AM
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64. But, that works for the
Obama campaign(us)..they must not have confidence enough in the "legitimate differences" so they go for the lies.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:24 PM
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39. Great ad...
thanks for the link.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:28 PM
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41. Reverse "Harry and Louise."
Sad.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:30 PM
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42. Hillary Clinton gave you, your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 06:31 PM by bambino
a huge trillion dollar debt to pay back for the Iraq war!

Put the ad out how much per day is that Iraq war costing the American public?
How much could have been spent on health, schools, infrastructure?
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:34 PM
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44. If she was gonna go nuclear, she should have done it when she was ahead
Now it looks slimy and desperate.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:36 PM
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45. it was about time hillary. way to go hillary!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM
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50. pretty lame, Obama is reaching voters, Hillary wants to reach viewers
The town hall meetings is much more personal to the voters locally.

Her ad is funny, hiding behind 18 debates????!!!!!?????

I cannot wait to see Obamas ad in response! They could bury her in response ads and run them 2 to 1 over hers through Tuesday.
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Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:30 PM
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55. Go Hillary!
You call that a negative attack ad?? Wisconsin newspaper editorials are calling for Obama to give the state a debate. Are they attacking Obama too?

Hillary rocks!!

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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:01 PM
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58. Excellent ad. It is about time that HC challenges BO's rhetoric
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:04 PM
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59. Did Karl Rove produce this ad?
Classic Rove tactics.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:31 PM
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61. Wow, that's desperate. nt
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