Obama was the first Candidate to say he would seat the Florida delegates if he was nominee!

[flyarm]

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking
Barack Obama held an impromptu news conference after a Tampa fundraiser Sunday.


By WILLIAM MARCH and ELAINE SILVESTRINI The Tampa Tribune

Published: September 30, 2007



TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.Obama and others have pledged not to campaign in Florida until the Jan. 29 primary except for fundraising, which is what he was doing in Tampa.

But after the fundraiser at the Hyde Park home of Tom and Linda Scarritt, Obama crossed the street to take half a dozen questions from reporters waiting there.

The pledge covers anything referred to in Democratic National Committee rules as "campaigning," and those include "holding news conferences."

Obama seemed unaware the pledge he signed prohibits news conferences. Asked whether he was violating it, he said, "I was just doing you guys a favor. … If that's the case, then we won't do it again."

[AX10]

1. It's all about the show with him.

Not about the substance. He's nothing but another politician.

[Thrill]

15. Oh please

[Auntie Bush]

26. I just had to post in here so we'd have three old clarkies in a row.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

42. No. "Barack Obama hinted" does not equal "Barack Obama said"

sorry the Op uses someone's (a writer or reporter or blogger) assumptions and
attributes them as Obama's thoughts or words.

This: "Barack Obama hinted" does not equal "Barack Obama said"

Sorry, but we don't know what Obama said, and this amounts to no more than gossup.

[Auntie Bush]

43. I think you posted to the wrong poster.

[nomorewhopper]

54. he may seat them, but he wouldn't use them to steal the election! HUGE DIFFERENCE duh?

[jackson_dem]

2. Another example of this shapeshifter's current rhetoric not matching his record

He will say anything to get elected.

[goldcanyonaz]

3. So, he was for seating the delegates before he was against them?

[rodeodance]

9. I posted this a few months ago --didn't get much traction at that time.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. Typical, around here if you're against Obama, you're against Democracy.

[Iceburg]

64. He's done if they are counted! /nt

[KoKo]

4. Interesting...I thought folks were saying it was All "Hillary's Camp" fighting for

the seating of the Delegates. It's everywhere....Josh Marshall..through to the RW Blogs.
Amazing...

[rodeodance]

36. thats how the obama cricket machines works.

[KoKo]

41. Well...guess there's something to say for "mass organizing."

:eyes: I wish Hillary could dump Mark Penn...but she's in a bind...she either uses Bill and folks get upset about that...or she uses those she trusts...who are very cautious. Maybe it will work out. Anything can happen as we know. Maybe even a "hung convention" with Al Gore... I must be dreaming.

[jasmine621]

5. Blame the lack of attention to this on the media. nt

[Hill_YesWeWill]

6. so he would seat the delegates After he gets the nomination?

I don't see what's wrong with that. I, and Nancy Pelosi, do not believe those delegates should decide the nominee, but I'm all for them going to the convention!

[rodeodance]

7. what a slicky guy

[babylonsister]

8. From September? What did Edwards and Clinton have to say, and when, or

is that too difficult to research? Your mission is obvious, your motives less so. :eyes:

[flyarm]

16. my motives are truth..all day today Obama supporters have written how Hillary

is the only one who wants Florida delegates seated..I was a 2004 delegate for my state of Florida ..and damn it i believe in the truth..be it democratic or republican..to ask for less is not what and who i am as a democrat.

This is my state people have been lying about .

And i know darn well when Obama was here and what he said.

I am and was a Edwards supporter..i was on the road as a volunteer for Edwards..i have no dog in this fight... but truth.

If you are going to lie i am going to call you on it.

and yes ...the truth is my motive.

fly

[babylonsister]

19. See post #13 to address what you left out. And

for the record, "I" haven't lied about anything. I just think posting an article from September doesn't address what's happening now.

[rodeodance]

25. stop attacking the op'er. nothing left out--a link was provided. You just don't like

what the article say--so you have a little faux outrage. tsk tak

[babylonsister]

29. Don't tell me what to do, because you know me, I'll do just the opposite.

I'm ornery that way. And it's not an attack, I like fly, unlike some other people around here I just tolerate.

[rodeodance]

35. yes, toleration is a virtue

[flyarm]

52. i live where this took place and it was relevant then as it is today..we warned of this, we

complained about this and the media ignored it,.you all ignored it..many of us posted about this..here at du..now the people supporting Obama are lying and saying it is only Hillary that wanted to seat the Florida delegates..you can not have it both ways..

my candidate did not cheat..Obama did..that is the point..it was the point when he did it and it is the point now!

fly

[rodeodance]

23. Thank you for posting. obamababies are now crying --tough!

[Barack_America]

11. There's a difference between seating them and allowing them to decide the nominee...

Absolutely they can be seated after the nominee has been determined, which is the scenario Obama has presented here.

But should the results of these "elections" be used to determine who the nominee should be? Absolutely not.

[cottonseed]

12. After Hillary concedes. He'll seat them and we'll start the heeling.

It's quite brilliant really

[Skip Intro]

53. I will not "heel" to Obama.

I suspect many feel that way, especially in FL.

[Moh96]

13. Think people he said he will seat them after he get the nomination

the Key word here will be after
which means they did not get a part of nominating him, he just said that for us not to piss off FL voters and loose it in the GE
GEEEEE
Think People

[Alhena]

14. Exactly - just a symbolic gesture. No one opposes that

[burythehatchet]

17. BUT the post was in BOLD and LARGE RED FONT...c'mon...nt

[Cha]

22. That totally turns me off and

I stopped reading when I saw RED.

[rodeodance]

24. no wonder you are blind to the doing's of your candidate.

[Cha]

33. I see Ignored replied

to me..it must have been scintillating.

[johnnydrama]

18. bingo

For all I care, after he wins the nomination he can give the delegates to Chelsea.

Man are people this dumb to not understand the difference between seating the delegates after everything is decided, rather than seating them to specifically decide the winner.

It can't be possible that there are people this dumb.

[anamandujano]

34. The people of Florida might oppose it. If they don't have a say

because of the infighting of their state legislatures, the entrenched elite of the party, and the little cry baby who was represented in the "uncommitted" vote, there will be no healing.

I'm sure they'd prefer standing out in the rain to this bull.

If Obama supporters can threaten to not vote if big baby doesn't get the nod, then the Florida and Michigan voters can do likewise in the GE.

[tabatha]

20. Hillary also held a fundraiser in Florida.

The large red letters do not make one more receptive to the content - rather it seems like hysteria, somewhat off-putting.

[rodeodance]

21. tsk tsk--Live with it. ---and we all know she held a fundraise--obama people plastered

du for weeks with it.

and i posted this article a while back also. eat it up now.

[tandem5]

27. ooo you got me seeing red! nt

[rodeodance]

28. REC---LOVE THE BOLD--EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.-even if they don't like it.

[stillcool]

30. Of course!!

The only way Michigan and Florida's votes will count, is if they don't count. Is this news?

[NJSecularist]

31. More intellectual dishonest from the Hillbots

Which I could say I am surprised - but I am not.

It's pretty clear what he said. He would seat the delegates if he won the nomination. Not before. After.

[flyarm]

37. i am not a hillbot..i campaigned for Edwards..i went to Iowa for Edwards, i went toSC for Edwards

but Fla is my state and i was a 2004 delegate for my state.

I voted for Edwards in my states primary.

and i am sick and tired of the lies.

and i do not like Hillary at all!

fly

[ProSense]

39. "and i do not like Hillary at all!" So why are you spreading nonsense? n/t

[flyarm]

40. i would suggest it is other spreading nonsense..i am trying to clear it up!

i am trying to clear up these falsehoods!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4607139


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4608594&mesg_id=4608594

[ProSense]

46. At this point it doesn't matter:

Obama is ahead even if you include MI and FL

[AtomicKitten]

32. Shout out before you start stomping your feet so I can move my coffee.

[mkultra]

38. poor comprehension skills typical of hillabots

Dean has also said they will be seated once the nominee is already chosen.

stopping to answer a few questions is not a pres conference.

sorry, keep smearing. Its all you got.

[rodeodance]

44. we do good with comprehension--NOTE it is the Obamababies having a fit over this??

[mkultra]

45. waaaaaaaa

[rodeodance]

50. Obamababies crying again.

[mkultra]

58. i know,

im crushed by his recent leads everywhere and in every demographic. Its clear that shes the better candidate.

Experience through matrimony!!!!

[mkultra]

59. i think its we do "well"

[MagsDem]

47. Why am I not surprised?

[Auntie Bush]

48. Barak is going around now trying to get super delegates to change

their vote...several already have. He's a hypocrite! Why can't people see this?

[rodeodance]

51. They do not want to---its all about winning and they will do anything to win--including

not knowing --not caring what their candidate does or says

[mckeown1128]

49. How dishonest...

That isn't what the whole FL and MI fiasco is about. It is about a certain candidate...we'll call her Wendy... trying to get the delegates seated in order to steal the election.

[TheWraith]

55. You're resurrecting a five month old tabloid hit piece? Clinton supporters are pretty desperate.

Losing will do that to you.

[Auntie Bush]

56. Too bad we can't replace your picture with McCain's at the top of this page.

That's where the faces of people that have unpleasant comments belong.
"Losing will do that to you." Obama may win but you will still be the loser...as all those on here that express your hostile, unfriendly, rub it in your face, ready to pick a fight nasty attitude belong...and there are many that deserve to be there along with you.

I'm not necessarily saying this regarding this particular post. I'm referring to ALL your posts in general. You come across as a very hostile, unhappy person. I predict even in victory...you not be happy within. Your name reminds me of someone filled with wrath...could it be a Freudian slip?

[ecdab]

57. Did he "HINT" or did he say....

and what did he really say? Does anybody have the actual quote that William March used to jump to the conclusion that it was a "HINT"?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

63. 2 points 1. He broke the campaign rules by holding a news conference 2. he was the 1st to say it...

"I will seat seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.
"

[ecdab]

65. Is talking to a few

reporters that are following a candidate around the same as holding a news conference? Somebody that is making the accusation that he has broken campaign rules may want to check on that - they seem to be very different things. A news conference is typically something that a candidate calls together, announces, and organizes for the press - that is certainly not what appears to have happened. That is not to say that what did happen may not have fallen under such a definition - assuming one was provided in such an agreement. If one was not provided - I really fail to see this as even being worthy of note, much less some form of deception.

Also can you provide a link to the Obama quote? These things are so often taken out of context that I have no trust of a partial quote without any context given - nor should anybody else at this point if they have been following politics for any length of time. It is my understanding that Obama suggested that he might seat the Florida delegation IF he had already received the nomination - that is something that is very different than what people seem to be accusing him of here.

[Iceburg]

60. And we thought Dick was slick ...Obama and his whoppers!!!/nt

[incapsulated]

61. bwhahahah! n/t

[LWolf]

62. How can he be the nominee unless

the convention is already in progress?

Oh. The presumptive nominee. Of course. You mean that, if he's headed to the convention with enough delegates ALREADY to seal up the nomination, he'll "seat" the rest. :eyes:

Is it his convention, or is it the Democratic Party's convention?

Who "SEATS" anyone? Is the convention a theatrical performance managed by the presumptive nominee, or does it have something to do with the party as a whole?