If Obama's so anti-war why'd he campaign for pro-war LIEBERMAN

[Oskie]

in '06? There was a perfect opportunity to stand up for what he says he believes..........and he didn't do it. He didn't support anti-war Lamont. He supported gung-ho pro-war Bush buddy Lieberman. Actions speak louder than words!

[Bicoastal]

1. Oh not this shit AGAIN...nt

:boring:

[madrchsod]

3. come on wake -up!

[babylonsister]

2. Google Lamont + Obama, and just google. Lieberman

was assigned to him and vice versa. Educate yourself before you spout off, and welcome? to DU.

[Oskie]

35. I know Lieberman was his mentor. So you're saying he did what was

expected of him politically instead of standing up for his "beliefs." SO he's just a pol. When he gets in the WH, he shift right....just like the rest of them.

[babylonsister]

39. I see you haven't educated yourself yet, thus making you look ill-informed. nt

[TheWraith]

54. If you had an IQ greater than room temperature...

... or the intellectual honesty of cream cheese, you'd know that Clinton endorsed and campaigned for Lieberman in the primary too. So did John Kerry, and a whole bunch of other major Dems--because they didn't want Lieberman getting elected as an independent and turning his back on the party.

But hey, you're only here to post hit pieces about Obama, so why waste your time with facts.

[MH1]

59. I believe you are mistaken about Kerry

He did not endorse Lieberman before the primary. As I recall, John Kerry stated he would support the winner of the primary, and when Lamont won, he endorsed and campaigned for Lamont.

You are correct though, that most other high profile Dems supported Lieberman as the incumbent.

[LoZoccolo]

4. Cuz he secretly loves the war OH NOES!!!!!111 n/t

[southlandshari]

5. Anyone else get their Girl Scout cookies today?

:woohoo:

[KitchenWitch]

45. Ours are being picked up next Saturday at the council.

:woohoo:

Did I tell you that I am now a co leader of my daughter's Brownie troop?

[southlandshari]

46. Excellent!!

So what kinds of activities are the Brownies up to these days?

:hi:

[KitchenWitch]

48. Crafts, Trips to the Science Center, Tours of various businesses

Plotting to take over the world, one cookie at a time.

[southlandshari]

52. I support the troops in their mission

and await instructions on how I can best support their efforts!

[JPZenger]

64. I love the caramel delights.

Anyone know any good receipes for eggplant?

[JPZenger]

65. I love the caramel delights.

Anyone know any good receipes for eggplant?

[JPZenger]

69. Side Effect Warning for Pills: may cause sleep driving

I just heard a TV commercial for Ambient CR sleeping pills. At the end, they have a warning that it may cause walking, eating and driving without remembering it afterwards. The pills cause Sleep Driving!

[southlandshari]

70. ahem....this is the off-topic Girl Scout cookie subthread

Though I suppose Ambien-fueled nuttiness is an equally deserving diversion to the topic at hand.

Carry on.

:D

[DJ13]

6. He campaigned for him in the primary, where he was supported by the Party

Obama campaigned for Ned Lamont in the November election.

[rinsd]

10. Obama did not campaign for Lieberman.

He gave him an "endorsement" at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner for CT in April when Ned Lamont was not even a blip on the radar.

[jackson_dem]

25. He later came to CT in the summer in the heat of the battle to help Lieberman

Whether it was fund raising or the stump I don't remember but he did return when it counted and was for Lieberman. He tried to use his heroic profile with the progressive base to save Lieberman from an embarrassing primary loss.

[rinsd]

31. I pretty sure on this, that Obama did not actually campaign for either guy.

I don't think Obama got involved with Lieberman beyond his JJ dinner comments.

Obama sent Lamont some money from his PAC (as did Hillary) after the primary and in OCt he sent out an email to his CT supporter list touting Lamont. That was it.

John Edwards was the only one who actaully campaigned for Lamont.

[karynnj]

47. I don't think he did - do you have a link?

Bill Clinton gave him the best endorsement speech I ever heard hi give - way better that the mostly talking about himself Gore and Kerry ones. He a;so did robocalls.

[jackson_dem]

24. He did? When did he campaign for Lamont? Where was the event?

[gateley]

7. Do you KNOW how tired this subject is?

Even Hillary's supporters have probably had enough. :eyes:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

43. seems like the primary has brought may brand new DUers

so no, the OP person possibly may not know anything about the frequent repeated
same old same old spam posts.

Its the hillary tactic, repeat the same lies and filth constantly.

[rinsd]

8. For the millionth time, Obama did not campaign for Lieberman.

He gave an "endorsement" at the JJ Dinner in CT in April when Lamont was practically unheard of.

In Aug, he & Hillary endorsed Lamont and sent him money from their PACs

[NYCGirl]

9. Bill Clinton campaigned for Lieberman, too:

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16945479&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6

And then after the primary, Obama worked with Lamont.

Lamont just endorsed Obama.

http://nedlamont.com/news/2256/why-im-supporting-barack-obama

Ned Lamont, January 10, 2008

When I decided to run for Senate, I did so because I deeply believed that the citizens of Connecticut were yearning to see fundamental changes in our politics – changes that would make government work for them again.

Today, with our Presidential primary in Connecticut less than a month away, I am announcing my support of Barack Obama for President because I am convinced that his forward-looking, progressive vision provides the best chance to enact meaningful reforms in the way Washington works.

Sen. Obama has the tone and temperament to bring out the best in our people and our nation, and to bring new coalitions together in support of the progressive policies we all want to see enacted. His campaign has already reflected this, not only by bringing hundreds of thousands of new voters of all ages to the polls, but by inspiring so many who are new to politics to become activists as well.

Making healthcare affordable for all Americans, rebuilding our aging infrastructure, and ending our dependence on foreign oil are all problems that require more than a tax credit here or an earmark there. Barack is the candidate best able to enact these big changes necessary to getting our country moving again.

We have seen that Sen. Obama has the wisdom and judgment to get the big decisions right – as he did on Iraq more than five years ago. And when President Obama steps out of Air Force One in countries around the world, he will represent a fresh start with friends and allies. He will end the war in Iraq, work for a comprehensive peace in the Middle East, and start investing in America again – and we will be safer and stronger for it.

We Democrats are fortunate to have had many strong candidates running for President. As you may know, I was proud to work hard for Chris Dodd during his campaign. I have the deepest respect and admiration for Sen. Dodd – especially for his powerful calls to defend our constitutional freedoms by restoring habeas corpus, closing Guantanamo, and living up to the spirit of the Geneva Conventions. I know that Sen. Obama, a former professor of Constitutional Law, has been and will continue to be Chris’ ally in fighting to protect our Constitution.

As Barack often says on the campaign trail these days, “with the challenges we face at this moment, the real gamble in this election is playing the same Washington game with the same Washington players and expecting a different result.”

It’s time to change the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FChJLsJeLjc

[jackson_dem]

28. Is Clinton running as being against the war from the beginning?

[NYCGirl]

36. Didn't Bill Clinton claim that he was against the war from the beginning?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22004475/

Hillary Rodham Clinton will bring America “back to the future,” husband Bill says, promoting his own legacy in public life almost as much as his wife’s presidential campaign.

Showing inconsistency on an issue that has dogged his wife, the former president also told Iowa Democrats that he “opposed (war in) Iraq from the beginning.”


Oh yeah, he was lying.
:eyes:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

44. You like the war, do you Jackson_dem?

it sure seems that you do, as long as Hillary does, or Billary.

[Dogmudgeon]

11. "I was for Lieberman before I was against him."

--p!

[bellasgrams]

21. Lieberman was BO's mentor

[rinsd]

22. He was Obama's "mentor" for Senate orientation of freshman.

[beachmom]

33. Lieberman is the one who left the Democratic party. You might

want to get your flip flopper straight.

[frazzled]

12. Why did Hillary campaign for him and say "I hope he wins"?

Every damned Democratic senator campaigned for him until he lost the primary--and then they all stood with the Democratic nominee, Lamont.

This is getting so lame I don't know why we bother to respond to the umpteenth-hundred thread on this.

[ThatPoetGuy]

34. Sadly, they didn't ALL stand with Lamont.

I still haven't forgiven MY senator, Ken Salazar.

But yes, Hillary and Obama BOTH supported Lamont.

[mdmc]

13. it was a simple case of Joementum

we all get it from time to time

[eileen_d]

16. We have a winner.

:applause:

[Drunken Irishman]

14. If Obama is so pro-war, why did the anti-war Lamont ENDORSE him?

[JPZenger]

66. You are just being sexist by pointing out a fact

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

15. welcome to DU Oskie

what is this, Hillary's talking points posted at DU?

[MadBadger]

17. Who Joins DU in 2004 and only has 40 posts?

[rinsd]

18. The cicadas are in full bloom right now.

[MadBadger]

19. Yep

[Oskie]

26. Someone who worked for Kerry out in the neighborhoods pounding on doors.

Up until now I'd read articles on DU when I had time. Never entered a discussion forum until recently and was horrified by the level of venom from other Dems. My god do any of you remember Reagan...the morning in America crap? Harry and Louise? Ever read THE AGENDA Woodward's book published in '94 about Clinton's first term and fight to get legislation passed to erase some of Reagan's damage. The Clintons pulled some crap too but at least a lot of people lived better lives during the '90s. It's alarming that Americans don't read and don't remember so...rats like Bush can slip in and screw it up bigtime. Anyone who touts sneaky old Reagan...well he's just another pol.

[UALRBSofL]

20. Oskie because it was the politically right thing to do

Did you not get the memo?

[Crunchy Frog]

23. I don't know, but Lamont seems to have forgiven him for it

since he endorsed him. :shrug:

And he did support Lamont once he got the nomination.

[jackson_dem]

30. How many times did he go on the stump for Lamont when he "supported" him?

0?

[NanceGreggs]

27. Did you know the writers' strike is over?

Just giving you a heads-up - you guys really need some new material.

[jackson_dem]

29. Another example of Obama's record not matching his rhetoric

[McCamy Taylor]

32. Ooo. Some people fear Obama now that they have seen how bad McCain looks next to him.

[Garbo 2004]

37. Even Barbara Boxer campaigned for Joe in the primary. And Hillary. n/t

[Oskie]

42. But did Boxer and Clinton claim to tbe the antiwar candidate? That's the main element

that brought Obama to prominence. He's a pol. Both sides of the mouth. It's interesting how Obama supporters ignore his ducking and dodging but not Clinton's?

www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/nyregion/02lieberman.html

[Garbo 2004]

51. Unlike Clinton, Boxer voted against the IWR. n/t

[skipos]

38. A bit OT, but does anyone know who Lamont endorsed by chance? nt

[NYCGirl]

40. Ned Lamont: Why I'm Supporting Barack Obama

http://nedlamont.com/news/2256/why-im-supporting-barack-obama

[babylonsister]

41. Obama, of course! Here's the skinny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ned-lamont/why-im-supporting-barack_b_80986.html

[Nutmegger]

49. Obama was nowhere to be seen.

But, for the most part, the entire party was split. Mary Landrieu wasn't bothered by supporting the Connecticut for LIARman nominee, and not the Democratic nominee ... but god forbid if we offed that jackass pro-war LIARman by supporting the DEMOCRATIC nominee!!!

Obama sent him some cash, and an e-mail in support of Lamont and for that I thank him.

But he didn't come here physically to campaign for Lamont, and neither did Hillary.

They should have, this race was so important and we needed all the help we could get. We needed Obama to come here, and Bill Clinton too. It's a damn shame they didn't give Lamont some face time.

But I guess Lamont is okay with it. That's okay, I respect his decision.

[ErnestoG]

50. Hillary can't escape her IWR vote so THIS is what you are down to?

Pathetic.

[Redstone]

53. I'll see your Granite Chiclet, and raise you a Girl Scout Cookie.

Redstone

[readmoreoften]

55. If Obama is so anti-war why does he explicitly say he wants to get out of Iraq to go to Pakistan.

He's VERY pro-war. He's just not for fighting in Iraq.

[babylonsister]

56. Why would he want to go to Pakistan? And no, wrong, he's not VERY

pro-war, he has a plan to get out of Iraq in 16 'realistic' months. He does think Afghanistan is where this should have been headed to begin with, but don't let stupid facts get in your way.

[gateley]

63. He has never said he "wants to get out of Iraq to go to Pakistan."

You are so misleading -- it's really not necessary. The majority of people on DU know the facts, even though some like to skew them at times.

[Renew Deal]

57. Welcome Back!

:hi:

[ShortnFiery]

58. This has been debunked numerous times: Obama supported LAMONT in the GE.

:eyes:

[sniffa]

62. But why not continue to be burdened in debunking it again?

I mean, I'm sure they won't move a few goal posts as you do it

It's worth the effort Or not.

[Honeycombe8]

60. I guess the Clintonites are desperate? I mean, if they're resorting to things like that.

For one thing...who cares. I mean, it's not like voting for the Iraq War, like Clinton did.

For the second thing...Obama supported the Democratic candidate, Lamont, after the voters chose Lamont.

Obama believes in abiding by the voters' decision, apparently. Something the Clintons don't necessarily believe in, judging by their position on how Michigan/Florida/Superdelegates should count.

[sniffa]

61. Ah, this false item

It's only been a few weeks since last I read this here Thanks for getting this back out in the open as DU needs to know :patriot:

[LWolf]

67. There is nothing "anti-war" about Obama. n/t

[ClassWarrior]

68. I don't think anyone ever said he's "anti-war." Just that he opposed Iraq.

And as long as you keep pushing the "anti-war" frame, the harder it will stick.

NGU.