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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:10 AM
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Clinton Can't Manage Her Staff or Her Money, How Can She Run the WH?
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 02:18 AM by Stephanie


Her staff is out of control. The campaign manager is watching soap operas instead of returning calls, the pollster/communications guru is busy http://www.observer.com/taxonomy/term/25614">promoting his own book instead of his candidate, advisers are having http://wonkette.com/356502/all-clinton-team-does-is-fight-each-other-always">screaming matches instead of meetings, nobody's happy in Hillaryland and the candidate's feeling blue.

She's raised $175 MILLION DOLLARS and yet the campaign didn't have enough http://www.observer.com/2008/why-clinton-s-back-against-wall-nobody-prepared">money to run ground operations in smaller states. And what's most shocking, apparently she had no idea the campaign was out of cash!

WTF?!?




http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200802u/patti-solis-doyle/2

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Even after grasping the magnitude of the threat, the Clinton campaign didn’t react quickly and stuck to the strategy of trying to project an aura of inevitability. Here, too, Solis Doyle was disastrous; her lack of skill in areas other than playing the loyal heavy began to show. The first public sign of this came just after Clinton’s reelection to the Senate. Even though Clinton had faced no serious opponent, it turned out that Solis Doyle, as campaign manager, had burned through more than $30 million. As this New York Times story makes clear, the donor base was incensed. Toward the end of the Senate campaign, Solis Doyle did her best to bolster the impression of the inevitability of Hillary’s nomination as the Democratic presidential candidate, spreading word that Clinton’s Senate reelection fund-raising had gone so exceptionally well that $40 million to $50 million would be left after Election Day to transfer to the incipient presidential campaign. But this turned out to be a wild exaggeration—and Solis Doyle must have known it was. Disclosure filings revealed a paltry $10 million in cash on hand; far from conveying Hillary’s inevitability, this had precisely the opposite effect, encouraging, rather than frightening off, potential challengers.

***


The extended denouement that began after the Iowa caucuses and finally culminated with Sunday’s departure reinforces this supposition. By all accounts, Solis Doyle’s firing became imminent after the first loss, as the extent of the damage sank in. (My colleague Marc Ambinder has provided plentiful detail on this here and here.) She’d been dispatched to Iowa to oversee operations in the final weeks before the caucuses, and Clinton still finished third. She’d been placed in charge of the campaign’s relationship with John Kerry and hoped to get an endorsement, but he’d chosen to back Obama. And of course, the campaign had hemorrhaged money, which Solis Doyle had managed to conceal. The ax was expected to fall the day after New Hampshire (Solis Doyle opted not to depart on her own after Iowa), but it didn’t happen until weeks afterward because Clinton put off making the crucial decision—just as her alter ego was often charged with doing. (The best blow-by-blow account is this prescient New Republic piece by Michelle Cottle that was read avidly inside the campaign because it’s so accurate.) Even then, Solis Doyle’s departure took a near-mutiny to bring about. Williams and Lieberman left their jobs last week; this finally seemed to have influenced Clinton to oust Solis Doyle.

In one sense, Solis Doyle performed exactly as Hillary had hoped. Somewhat to my surprise, the longstanding fissures in Hillaryland never truly erupted when Clinton came under presidential-campaign pressure, certainly not the way they did in 2000. For all the chaos and disillusionment with Clinton’s performance so far inside the campaign, very little of it had leaked to the press until just recently. And despite her late start, Clinton did not lag on the money front: she has raised $175 million since winning her Senate seat in 2000, which should have been enough to fund a formidable campaign, even one that dragged on as long as this one has. That the money was so obviously mismanaged and Clinton was essentially left helpless to compete in last weekend’s primaries and caucuses is the reason Solis Doyle ultimately had to go. The problem, as before, was mismanagement—only this time against a worthy enough opponent that the cost was obvious to everyone.





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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:12 AM
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1. Amen. The 'incumbent' isn't, and she's scrambling. nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:15 AM
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2. Incumbent My Ass
:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:21 AM
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5. I was trying to be nice, gentle, non-partisan in the Dem party.
Ha! Caught me! :hug:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 02:00 AM
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60. .
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:18 AM
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3. Firing of Hillary aid - threatens to erode her Hispanic Base
2 Hispanic leaders in NY sent letter to Clinton about Patti Solis Doyle taking blame for campaign failures:



NY Hispanics Question Clinton Aide Exit

February 12, 2008

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- Two New York Hispanic leaders said they would be upset if Hillary Rodham Clinton's Hispanic campaign manager was replaced because of primary losses they believe should be blamed on former President Clinton and others.

Patti Solis Doyle, whose parents were Mexican immigrants, stepped down as Clinton's campaign manager this weekend as Clinton was losing five Democratic contests to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. Clinton has said Doyle's decision was a personal response to a grueling campaign, not about job performance. She added that Solis Doyle would remain a senior adviser and that her campaign needed to add more staff.

In a letter to Clinton dated Monday and obtained by The Associated Press, State Sen. Ruben Diaz Jr. and Assemblyman Jose Peralta, both New York City Democrats, wrote that they are inclined to believe the explanation, but ''it will be very troubling to many if somehow we later find that she left her post under pressure because of the recent primary losses your campaign suffered.''

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Clinton-Hispanics.html?scp=1&sq=clinton+campaign+manager+resigns&st=nyt

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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:19 AM
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4. She can't run it, that's the point. All she will do is hire Cronies to screw things up.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:45 AM
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23. Boy, does that sound familiar!
She's more and more like Bush every day

I guess that's what happens when you go along to get ahead...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:52 AM
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27. "heckuva job, Patti" n/t
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:19 PM
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58. Bill and Hillary Clinton ran one of the most successfully White House ever
Bill and Hillary came to Washington with the most experienced Administrations ever, stop a recession in it tracks, found 17 tr illion dollars of debts left by Bush 1, they made the government much smaller, left a surplus and were on the way to paying down the debt...How could you ask for anything better. Just Remember peace and prosperity from the first Black President
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:38 AM
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6. Cause She Has EXPERIENCE Dammit
:rofl:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:56 PM
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34. Well, she does, and has guts and integrity to boot....
What does Obama have, the ability to thank Oprah and not take a single decisive stand on, well, ANYTHING? :rofl: Oh, I voted "present"!!

Well, at least college aged boys who see nothing but themselves and the self-loathing insecure females who love Obama only to get these boys' attention will be happy. :sarcasm: :rofl:

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:28 AM
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53. Oh hi Robin Morgan, I didn't know you posted here
At least this post is slightly more coherent than your incomprehensible and embarassing rant of a few weeks ago. :hi:

:eyes:
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:40 AM
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7. that's right. Ms Five Million needs to look at the writing on the wall...
nt
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:57 PM
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36. What writing? Graffiti?
n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:02 AM
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8. Hillary has been exposed for her lack of talent managing money or people.
There are many people who hold doctorates who are incapable of being a professor or leading a faculty. Hillary has always been a glorified worker bee, an overachieving student who lacks charisma, executive skills, or original ideas.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:46 AM
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24. So very true
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 AM
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49. She is the green-eyed Lisa Simpson, angry at someone better stealing her thunder.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:22 AM
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9. the article doesn't say she can't run her staff
it's one story about one employee, who has now been fired. The story might not even be true.

To jump from that story to conclude that she's a bad manager is just irrational.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:29 AM
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10. One Employee????
It's her CAMPAIGN MANAGER for chrissakes.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:33 AM
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13. That is a ridiculous statement.
One employee? Hillary is known for surrounding herself with loyal cronies, just like someone else we know. If a person on staff at a high level does not present her with accurate information or is afraid to, then we have "Brownie" all over again. We've had enough of this type of personality in at the top of government. This is an important issue. Hillary's judgment when surrounding herself with yes people and her management of this campaign speaks to her ability to run, not just a bureaucracy, but the nation.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:14 AM
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18. There have been a series of reports on this
beyond that, her notoriously leak proof campaign is obviously hemorrhaging information. This top down model, doesn't work when under pressure...when things don't go along the "inevitable" plan.

Face it, Obama realized early on...all politics is local, and that's where he built his resources.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:45 AM
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26. I don't think you read it.
It's not just about one employee. And read the links in the OP.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:55 AM
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48. .
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:53 AM
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11. silly it's not day one yet
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paperbag_ princess Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:23 AM
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12. I agree- campaign mistakes
If it were not for her own mistakes during this campaign, I would probably be abandoning the democratic party. Imo Hillary has received a lot of unfair criticism and I am more than willing to speak out about that (sexism and Clinton/Bush fatigue).....but..... If she can't pull out a win for this nomination, she owns a lot of the responsibility.

Now that being said, George Bush was a great campaigner......Kerry ran a very flat campaign and didn't use his resources wisely.....Gore's campaign was an absolute embarrassment...

Who was the worst president ever? and which 2 would have made great presidents?

Let's be fair
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:34 AM
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14. AMEN!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:40 AM
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15. For all that money she got Penn... who can make her inevitable without those states dontcha know. nt
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:07 AM
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17. Mark Penn?
You mean let's give John McCain 25 campaign commercials showing how the Clinton's campaign strategists say she doesn't care about (insert state here). That Mark Penn?

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:37 AM
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22. That was kind of the point of my post... dontcha know. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:14 PM
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56. She seems pretty damned evitable now nt
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:04 AM
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16. I am truly frightened
if it was true that her campaign wouldn't tell her she was running out of money.

That just looks so girl in the bubble to me.

That is the last thing we need in a President, more yes men and yes woman like Bush has.

And the worst part about it, all this normally would be washed aside if she were to win.

Only problem is, oops there's a bigger election coming up.

Is the same shit going to happen in the general?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:33 PM
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29. Why didn't she ask? She's out fundraising every single day.
She didn't ask her CM what the bank balance was? I just don't get it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:26 AM
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19. .......She has good solutions.

Will she pick the right one?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:27 AM
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20. My thoughts exactly. Managing people, money, and speaking ability are all parts of being a leader.
This is so true. Managing your staff, being aware of how they're performing, managing money, and the ability to speak effectively, inspire, persuade...these are all parts of what goes into making a great leader.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:28 AM
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21. It's troubling she values loyalty over competence.
Haven't we "been there done that" for the past 7+ years?
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:47 AM
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25. Competence is not her strong suit, which is now obvious.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:05 PM
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28. Is simple competence too much to ask? After eight disastrous years?
I think the least we can ask for is the minimal competence level to make an organization run effectively, don't you?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:48 PM
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31. Maybe Obama can vote present yet again and save the world?
Oh, yes, I'm being sarcastic today.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:56 PM
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35. I feel like I'm back in the Bush "fact vs. fiction" era
It's frustrating to be reality-based in GD-P these days. Next you'll be trying to scare me with mushroom clouds.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:58 PM
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37. I can remember the Carter days........
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 01:00 PM by Darth_Kitten
you barely remember the Clinton years. Enjoy your delusions. Projecting onto others is NOT kewl. ;)
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:48 PM
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30. LOL.......desperate. And Obama still can't stand up for anything.
LOL
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:52 PM
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32. PRECISELY!! She has shown us exactly what kind of
mismanagement she'd bring to the WH. She showed it in the way she brought forth her first health care plan (a top-down corporate giveaway if there ever was one) and she apparently has learned NOTHING since then.

:dem:
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:53 PM
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33. She'll hire Harold Ickes to do it
This lady knows how to lead...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hb63ruEt4I
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:07 PM
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38. She hires slimeballs and incompetents,
can't get Bill to STFU, has no idea how much money the campaign is hemoraging, and makes one strategical blunder after the other. And she's ready from day one to run the WH? Sure doesn't look like it. Hell, it sounds like she'd be even less competent than bush...
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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:13 PM
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39. SHE'S A MICROMANAGER!!!
Goodness, why can't people see that?

That type of leadership is fine when you're leading a group small enough for the person to handle. Once it passes the critical mass in size, though, that person will inevitable lose control and lead the entire organization to failure.

I've seen it happen in two companies I've worked for. Electing Clinton will be a disaster.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:35 PM
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40. She tried to run a "Shock and Awe" campaign.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 02:22 PM by cottonseed
Like another group of folks we all know, Hillary ran what one could call a "Shock and Awe" campaign. Previous to the primaries and any official statement of running, the press had been dropping her name as the front runner, softening up everyone's defenses. It worked great at first, a little slip up in the 2 early states, but huge campaigns in the big states of CA and NY. She had her sights set on these states, hit voting blocks with surgical strikes of devastating efficiency, and they threw flowers at her feet.

As time went on, and the initial excitement of "Shock and Awe" began to where off, it became painfully obvious that no one in her campaign had a plan B. Everyone shrugged there shoulders and seemed to say, "no one could have imagined" it would make it past Super Tuesday. Money is draining away at a fantastic clip, and for what no one knows, her people are now infighting and pointing fingers, and it seems that her most trusted advisers are afraid to tell our possible Commander in Chief that everything is going down the crapper.

We've all seen this movie before, and we're still watching it unwind today. This same leadership and style is the same nightmare we've become sadly accustomed to the last 7 years. Do we want to install another regime of such an uncanny likeness?
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:44 PM
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42. The Clintonistas are in deep denial about just how bad her
managerial, executive, and leadership skills are. She is worse than Bush when it comes to hiring flunkies and suck-ups who know nothing about doing the job they were hired to do. A scheduler is not a good choice to be your campaign manager no matter how much you like them. It's not about likability-it's about getting the damn job done and she's run a terribly campaign. I don't want to see her do to this country what she's done to her own campagin. Snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? Been there, done that. Need to move on!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:44 PM
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43. wow, you're right on the money
"no one could have imagined" there would be civil strife after the invasion. "no one could have imagined" there would be no WMD found. "no one could have imagined" the cost in lives and dollars.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:31 PM
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44. there are some words I never want to hear again...
And those words are "no one could have imagined". It's baffled me on just how cocksure yet wrong the Bush gang has been on every problem they've faced. All I'm looking for is competence. I think the majority of people in this country want the same thing. Is a plan B too much to ask? So, if a campaign says anything about your administrative style, then the choice is becoming painfully obvious.

Thanks for the reply...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 AM
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46. the similarities are kind of scary
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:42 PM
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41. I've said this before but think about what tpe of jack-holes would be giving her advice in the oval
office.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:54 PM
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45. that's the point.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:35 AM
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47. Even Lucy Ricardo managed a better budget. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 AM
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50. Lucy and Ethel on the pie line comes to mind.
it was pies, wasn't it?

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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:54 AM
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54. Chocolates. VID LINK!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:57 AM
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55. 25 years ago, Lucy ran at 1 AM, and I had to watch them all again.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:27 PM
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59. My TiVo and I Love Lucy.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 AM
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51. The word from those who have been thrown under the bus by HRC is that she's ultra *self-righteous*
Oh yeah, that's the kind of team I want to be on :eyes: ... sort of like working for men like The Chimperor, where everyone is on "pins and needles" saying ANYTHING not to rile them up into an FALSE OUTRAGE. :thumbsdown:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:25 AM
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52. Who needs competence when you have Inevitability? nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:18 PM
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57. Thank you for posting this!!1!!! I really want to run right out and vote for Obama now.
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