Talk-sick Radio Hosts Limbaugh, Luntz call for right-wing crossover vote for Obama, to stop Hillary

[respublicus]

Wonder why?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WarOnFreedom/message/4184

[ErnestoG]

1. for the same reason that Hillary will lose in a landslide to McCain

duh.

[Redstone]

3. You've gotten sucked into the vortex of a provocative poster, Ernesto.

Just some friendly advice.

Redstone

[ErnestoG]

5. Sucked into nothing.

Late polls show that Obama can slightly beat McCain, while Hillary would tie him.

[jackson_dem]

34. Yes, just like Bush beat Gore by 11 and Kerry won by 8

Obama's slim lead is not worth the paper it is printed on. It will evaporate fast when the rethugs get done with him. Hillary has already been savaged by the rethugs for 16 years. She will only get better in those match ups with McCain as he too sees his negatives rise.

[Redstone]

2. Why the fuck should we care what those assholes think?

Redstone

[Cobalt-60]

4. Well said

If you don't listen their lies can't be effective.

[Window]

11. Best Post Award Winner!

Thanks for saying that so I don't have to. LOL!



Peace:thumbsup:

[theHandpuppet]

12. You should care if they influence a false crossover vote

Because those votes won't be there in November.

[creeksneakers2]

18. Because they are sabotaging the Democratic nomination process

[theHandpuppet]

21. Bingo!!!

Some are raising holy hell about MI and FL and the superdelegates but it's fine and dandy if the Repukes skewer the vote with crossover tactics? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense -- NOT.

[formernaderite]

22. they have every right to do that

just as we, in open primary states could easily have voted for them. Don' t like it? Work to change the process in the democratic party in your state. Obviously the people in those states, don't mind. Why are some folks around here acting like they are unaware of the process? Same goes with the super delegate process. Hopefully, some eyes have been opened and by the next election cycle "WE" will have changed the aspects "WE" don't like.

[Mz Pip]

38. Yes all of this

specualtion on reverse, double reverse psychology and secret or not so secret strategy plots by the wingnuts isn't worth the effort.

What could be their motivation? Vote for Hillary because the GOP wants Hillary as the candidate. Or maybe vote for Hillary so the Dems will be confused and vote for Obama because that's who the GOP really wants to run against. IT's all a plot to get Hillary to be the candidate. IT's all a plot to insure that Obama will be the candidate. Whatever! :crazy:

Fuck 'em.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

44. Limpballs can't even influence his listeners any more

:rofl:

Guess he's trying to influence anyone who may listen to him.

[MadBadger]

6. Fine by me.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. you've been here since 2002? and with only 72 posts, you show up to post

rightwing claptrap? Most of us here don't listen to Rush/Hannity/Luntz.....hmmmmmmmmm

[respublicus]

8. lamentable paucity of logical thinking in these replies

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. just sayin, six years & this is what you produce?.........n/t

[anamandujano]

15. It is rather amazing, isn't it. Let me try to explain it to them.

It doesn't matter what WE Democrats think of Limbaugh and the rest of them. They have a huge following of Repukes. They are the ones who will crossover to give OUR nomination to Obama, the candidate they can beat, even with old man lack luster McCain.

(Hey respublicus, that article is fantastic. I didn't see any mention of Limbaugh so you may have a wrong link. I'm shivering in my booties after reading the one you linked to. Maybe you could start a thread or two with the info. It's particularly interesting that the writer pointed out that Hillary has won all the states Democrats need to win in the GE and Obama could not even win them in the primary. It's scary that Dean is biased against the Clintons. It makes me respect him a good deal less. God, the Dem elites are such a clusterf*ck; they are intent on destroying the party with their idiocy. This is truly the Twilight Zone.)

[respublicus]

23. Thanks so much for your intelligence and understanding

I will look for a written source on the Toxic Radio attacks.

[Qutzupalotl]

10. The author makes a big deal about Obama losing California

but he'd win it against McCain.

The whole piece sounds like Frank Luntz vomiting.

[Perry Logan]

13. This kind of flushes "the wingers want Hillary" bullshit, doesn't it?

[BenDavid]

28. Let me get this right. HRC would be to the gop the easier of

the two candidates to beat? But the gop and the rnc are telling republicans in texas to go out and vote obama to stop HRC? Seems to me the gop and the rnc want obama to be on the ticket as he is the easier candidate to beat.

[jackson_dem]

36. As does McCain. Notice he is talking about Obama as if he is the Dem nominee already

[miceelf]

14. Nice try

Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to vote for CLINTON in the primaries, not Obama

[Andy823]

31. Yes, I heard that also last week

So this makes no sense that this week he is telling them to vote for Obama.

Of course old Rush is a tad crazy,:crazy: and if he is still using he may have forgetton what he said last week! :silly:

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. and Ann Coulter's telling them to vote for Hillary...go figure (eom)

[Iceburg]

16. Thanks for the link ... interesting band of counselors on the Obama team /nt

[Guava Jelly]

17. It is reverse psychology IMHO

These bozo's want us to vote a certain way so they use the same tricks that work on the knuckledraggers on their side because all in all
they themselves are knuckledraggers.

[kentuck]

19. He's doing pretty good without them...

Do they want to jump on board now and take credit for Obama's victory if it happens? Or "when" it happens?

[thevoiceofreason]

20. For the same reason

That repub emails in Texas are saying vote for her b/c she's so much weaker.

Little ruthug children playing little rethug children's games.

[Kahuna]

24. Fee fi foe fum.... nt

[suston96]

25. Limbaugh and Luntz have done the math.....

The country's black demographic is 12.5% of 288 million, spread out over 50 states and other places. The female population is some 55% of the total - 288 million. (Numbers edited per US Census Bureau)

Factor in the registered voters and you will see that virtually everywhere, Obama can be beaten more easily than Clinton. Limbaugh and Luntz - a professional pollster, know that.

Oh, and those polls showing Obama beating McCain more easily than Clinton beats McCain? Uh, it ain't the popular vote percentages that wins the election. It's a bunch of states and their electoral totals.

Sure, let's have McCain against Obama, say Limbaugh and Luntz. Bring it on. But please, not Hillary Clinton.

[Freida5]

26. Exactly

[jasmine621]

27. Exactly. And Obama will be soundly beaten in the GE.

many have already done the crossover just to get at Hillary. It wouldn't be the first time that RW radio hosts have sold the country down the river on behalf of their extreme hate and biases.

[GarbagemanLB]

29. Negative.

Obama has the ability to draw in independents and moderate Republicans. Hillary doesn't. You are fooling yourself if you think Hillary will have a better shot than Obama.

[suston96]

33. Not what we are saying. It's about the numbers. Do the math....

Obama had drawn those numbers in primaries and caucuses. Many of them will go home to the GOP in November.

And do this math, too......A couple of million Democrats in Michigan and Florida will stay pissed long enough to not vote or vote Republican.

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. while you're doing math you might consider the old saying...

about a two edged sword...you know cutting both ways?

"And do this math, too......A couple of million Democrats in Michigan and Florida will stay pissed long enough to not vote or vote Republican."

Careful what you put out into the universe. Obama has a lot of democratic and indie support, what if they stayed home?

[LisaL]

32. Either Gore or Kerry would have won GE if they won either OH

or FL. Last I checked, Hillary was doing better in either one of those states than Obama.
It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

[DemGa]

35. Where do you get that 29% figure?...nt

[suston96]

37. Don't remember, but I will check it out. Oh, my gosh...I am wrong...

Whoa, Nellie. I am wrong. In 2004 it was 36,121,000 blacks, both sexes, out of 288,281,000. That makes it 12.5%.

http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/race/black/ppl-186/tab1.html

Well, what can I say? Might have been a state %. That makes it even harder for Obama to win against McCain.

[DemGa]

39. Thanks n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

42. And of course we know that only blacks vote for Obama.

:sarcasm:

Seriously, WTF?!

Oh, and Luntz has admitted he wouldn't know how to run a campaign against Obama, and instead pushes Hillary on TV (Bill Maher, day before YESTERDAY).

[anigbrowl]

43. What a waste of space

I've read that 'article' linked to in the OP. It's a mishmash of contradictory arguments cobbled togetehr and makes little or no sense except to the sort of people who believe chain letters. I'm not at all sure that this provides any sort of accurate assessment of Rush Limbaugh's thinking, and even if it did I really don't care because he's a clueless idiot with falling ratings.

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

30. I haven't heard this one before

:rofl: