Concerted effort among Hillary supporters to spam this group with anti-Obama posts

[Alhena]

Take a look at this board, and it is obvious that the Hillary supporters have been given orders to spam the internet with anti-Obama posts. I suggest everyone just not respond to them, and they will scroll off.

And Hillary fans- I sympathize, I truly do. You thought your candidate was inevitable for so long, and now it is all over. She is going to lose. And yes, intelligent people can see that this is the case when it is virtually impossible mathematically (especially with Texas' arcane delegate rules, which greatly favor Obama) for Hillary to catch up on the pledged delegate total.

That means that the only way Hillary could win would be with superdelegates. But she's going to lose there too, as is made abundantly clear by black superdelegates switching to Obama and Pelosi coming out today in favor of Obama. You see, Pelosi knows that Obama can not only win in November but will bring in so many new independent voters that it will allow us to take a large number of new House seats. A Hillary candidacy, by contrast, would energize the conservative vote and make it much harder for our candidates to get elected.

Politicians want to get elected, my dear Hillary supporters. And so the Democratic party is not going to nominate, unless they have no choice, a candidate with negatives as high as Hillary has. And it's clear that they WILL have a choice in this matter, since Obama will have more pledged delegates, as the Clinton campaign itself admits. So spam the internet all you like- it's not going to make a difference to the people who are going to decide this election. It is all over.

[Perry Logan]

1. Looks like the pressure has driven the Obamites over the edge.

[golddigger]

2. LMAO!

:rofl:

[golddigger]

4. What's next? Mommy, mommy the mean GOP machine is picking on Obama.

:rofl:

[jillan]

146. exactly!

[Alhena]

6. No, it's simply math really. Superdelegates WILL decide this election ...

and then you just have to look and see who the Democratic party will prefer. And it's obvious they are going to choose the candidate who can win and bring new voters into the party, not a polarizing and widely disliked candidate.

Pelosi's siding against Hillary today in the FL-MI dispute just confirms that the party elites realize this. Do you honestly think that Pelosi's interview today involved just some off-the-cuff remarks? To the contrary, they are a signal from the party elites that they favor Obama. And since the party elites will decide this election, they are a signal that Obama is going to win.

[anamandujano]

15. It's obvious you haven't followed Pelosi's illustrious career.

She has her elbow up her @ss (pardon my English.)

[russian33]

48. so Obama is running on 'change', and no to old Washington

but it's actually the party elites that favor him, and going to make him the nominee?
that makes sense...

[jackson_dem]

144. "Change we can believe in." Who knew the "we" was the establishment!

:rofl:

[geiger]

28. The Answer IS= HRC is the one under pressure, not Obama.

Have some coffee and get over your hang-over.

[Eurobabe]

65. and then take your meds!!

thank you for your post. Isn't this stuff crazy?

[Kahuna]

78. If that's what you think, you missed the entire gist of the OP... It was

a bit tongue-in-cheek and went over your head. ;)

[HamdenRice]

118. Proud2BAmurikan

is gone. Unlike you he posted OPs rather than drive by nonsense responses, but the overall intention to post nonsense spam is the same.

[jackson_dem]

143. Yup and the truth is there are far more anti-Hillary posts

Obamaniacs can dish it out but cry like babies when they have to take it.

[TexasObserver]

3. Just put all the Hillary Spammers on IGNORE and their threads disappear.

You won't miss them. Any thread that has an obnoxious anti-Obama tone, I click on, hit the red X by the thread starter's name, and in three seconds, their threads and their posts are gone. Sure makes life easier.

Like the Clintons, they will drag you down into the mud, then run howling for admin intervention when you start to argue with them. There are a number here who are simply emotionally unwell, and it is best to avoid even talking to them.

[Alhena]

8. Great suggestion- thanks. I'll do just that.

[TexasObserver]

22. It's great fun, too.

Think of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction screaming I WON'T BE IGNORED!!

Yes, they will be.

Life is too short to spend it listening to the rantings of unmedicated, unstable Obsessive Compulsives who vent their spleens on a message board.

I'm here to discuss the race with Obama supporters, and help convey some information that might get the Democratic party a victory in the Fall. I firmly believe that Hillary will destroy the party in down ballot races if she's at the top of the ticket, and that it's better than 50-50 she will lose the general and drag down the House and Senate with her. My views are not unusual for those who have supported party candidates for decades. She's a weight that will pull us down.

There are plenty of Clinton supporters here with whom I can discuss the conflicting positions of the two camps, so why bother reading the ones who can't carry on a conversation without becoming shrill shills who lack any sense of decorum?

[rodeodance]

69. can't believe you did not think to do this before you wasted a post --FUN ONE!

[anamandujano]

10. If you don't have me on ignore yet, let me just say that I think you

have something here. We will then be able to have decent discussions without the severely logic challenged comments of Obama-rama-ding-dongs.

[Perry Logan]

12. A blatantly delusional OP, and you're calling the Hillary people "emotionally unwell"? Too weird.

[golddigger]

23. And this coming from the biggest hate Hillary spammer on Du.

[zabet]

29. Don't you just love how anti-Obama threads

are 'spam' and the anti-Hillary
threads are not? Welcome to
ObamaUnderground.

[liberalnurse]

35. I like that title...

ObamaUnderground. It is fitting at the moment.

[rodeodance]

83. This is the same one who has been doing POOP jobs on the Hillary threads that I have posted.

[QC]

115. You *have* to spam to rack up more than 1,000 posts a week.

Check out the profile--it's pretty obvious what his game is.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

79. haha taking your ball and going home eh?

[anamandujano]

5. I haven't received my orders yet; I'm feeling rather insulted.

[MethuenProgressive]

7. "the Hillary supporters have been given orders to spam"

You win the Most Paranoid award.

[NashVegas]

47. Check It Out

One of the Obama supporters here - a total newbie - is up to nearly 2300 posts in the 16 days since joining. Gotta be a record.

[QC]

117. Several freepers working in shifts? n/t

[Perry Logan]

9. I'm holding out for a new Mac. No more smears till I get that Powerbook.

[Birthmark]

11. Don't worry

Once Obama is elected God, you can burn all those meanies at the stake as heretics. That'll fix 'em!!

[Adelante]

13. I have the worst on Ignore

I only respond to others when I judge the person is being sincere in a question and genuinely wants an answer or to discuss an issue seriously. I've wasted so much time on setup questions in the past that I now skip right past them. Why bother? They will turn up again and again and again no matter how many times they've been addressed. There's only so much time.

[H2O Man]

14. Often, in politics,

the supporters of one candidate or another are so positively impressed with that person, that they are not able to view them in objective terms. Their candidate is only "good," and anything and everything that doesn't fit that perception is someone else's fault.

Add to that the picture painted by the top Clinton campaign folks -- Senator Clinton was the inevitable candidate. No one could challenge her position. She had unlimited resources.

And then Obama upsets that apple cart.

I can understand the difficulty that many of the DU Clinton supporters are experiencing. Their reaction is going to be to try to find someone else to blame, and they are going to take on the negative tactics that the campaign is showing at the top. James Carville, husband of Mary MadDog Matlin, came up with the idea of the "Obama cult" smear, and look how it spread.

Obama supporters are aware, of course, that every attempt by the Clinton camp to go negative has backfired. Democrats aren't looking for a candidate with a "No, We Can't" and "Don't Get Your Hopes Up!" message. And even if a group of DUers post such nonsense in a coordinated way, it will not help their cause. Obama supporters should thank them.

[anamandujano]

18. "inevitable" was pushed by MSM to set the bar too high

So, no matter how good her wins are, they spin them as failure.

And of course Obama the underdog, financed by Exelon, Goldman Sachs and lobbyists that he doesn't deal with never has to answer a real question.

[H2O Man]

19. A good example.

Thank you.

[JTFrog]

25. Actually "inevitable" was pushed by Penn who didn't have any strategy for the smaller states. n/t

[rodeodance]

61. Do you have a link to back that up or are just Spouting off?

[JTFrog]

74. I'd rather spout.

http://www.observer.com/2008/why-clinton-s-back-against-wall-nobody-prepared

‘We Didn’t Put Any Resources In Small States,’ Says Finance Chair Hassan Nemazee

“What’s gone wrong is very simple,” said Hassan Nemazee, a national finance chair for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

“If we had won Iowa and New Hampshire, as we had anticipated, projected, et cetera, you would not have been in a situation in which you are losing all of these small states—because we didn’t put any resources in those small states,” he said. “Obama, on the other hand, put resources in these small states.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/178650.php

So now you have Penn successively saying caucus wins don't really count, small state wins don't really count, medium state wins don't really count, states with large African-American populations don't really count, all building up to yesterday's gem: "Could we possibly have a nominee who hasn't won any of the significant states -- outside of Illinois? That raises some serious questions about Sen. Obama."

------

Clinton is ultimately responsible for putting her political fate in this fool's hands. But this is a guy who has basically one big political win under his belt and whose record in seriously contested races, particularly Democratic primary races is one of almost constant defeats. Much of Clinton's current predicament stems from Penn's disastrous, glass-jaw 'inevitability' strategy and the mind-boggling decision not even to contest a slew of states where Obama racked up huge victories and many delegates.

Campaigns are about winning votes not making excuses. There are plenty of delegates still out there for Clinton to win -- over a thousand left in the remaining primaries. But her efforts are being stymied by a campaign apparatus rooted in the belief that any new reality can be overturned by pretending it away.

Even Clinton hack Taylor Marsh wants Penn fired for running an inevitability campaign:

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26770

Fire Mark Penn

Somebody decided to run an inevitability campaign and because of that they let Barack Obama off the hook.

So someone needs to explain to me why the first viable female candidate to have a chance to win the presidency isn't the very symbol of change in a very big way.

Someone also needs to explain to me who pulled the "inevitability" campaign out of whose posterior.

[rodeodance]

82. after the fact. Irrelevant

[JTFrog]

85. Nothing like moving the goalpost. Sounds familiar. n/t

[ellisonz]

36. Ha...

18 debates. I think Hillary has had her chance. In a couple of them there were even ask the other candidate a question segments for the candidates. The fact that you don't like his answers does not mean he didn't answer a "real question."

And who finances Mark Penn?

[Spider Jerusalem]

108. 'Inevitable' was pushed by Clinton herself, too.

Don't go blaming your candidate's overblown ego on the media.

Couric asked Clinton how disappointed she'll be if she's not the Democratic nominee. "Well," Clinton said, "it will be me."

Clinton said, as she has before, that she'll support the Democratic nominee, whoever it may be. So that means that Clinton has at least considered the possibility that she won't be the nominee?

"No," she said, "I haven't."

(Hillary Clinton interview with Katie Couric, 26 November 2006)

[jackson_dem]

145. Every candidate says that

Obama doesn't say "If I am president" he says "When I am president." Even Kucinich did this.

[liberalnurse]

38. Please, go find your thinking cap.

You have a great model too, the deluxe!

Ask yourself how did a junior U.S senator with only 3 years of his term complete, no ground breaking legislation, ever become a mega-god for democrats. Find the details. Who really is behind the curtain?

Definitely the media who are bought/paid/owned by republicans. Propaganda machines now...that's now, but who gave birth, who spawn the hype?

Here is the womb:

http://www2.oprah.com/omagazine/200411/omag_200411_ocut.jhtml

Check the date.....

I got to leave for the Clinic. Tonight I'll start my journal.

[rug]

16. This sounds like anti-Clinton spam.

[Name removed]

17. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Bobbieo]

24. I'm certain McCain supporters are having a ball picking up all of this good stuff for

future anti-Democrat campaign literature. You guys are a gold mine of information.

[liberalnurse]

26. Folks really need to watch the media like a "defensive driver"'.

For me, it is obvoius that they want to keep hands off Kid Obama and help him smash and trash Hillary , get her out of the way....then, Obama will be the only pin left to knock out of the aisle.....He will be easy.....They, republicans and the weak pundits do well with easy.

The clue to it being easy is that schoolhouse logic is not being applied by the voting masses but they are only listening to sound bites, making them reactionary voters responding to the "Movie Trailer" media.

[Yossariant]

20. Delusional is the kindest thing I can say.

[LaurenG]

21. Democrats are a much better fit for the country

and that's really the bottom line. :hi:

[geiger]

27. the anti-Obama spammers became even more pronounce after the three-thread limit

was instituted.

I have been drawn to Obama because of his campaign's positive image; While looking for excuses to vote for HRC, I have become increasingly disenchanted and concerned with her negative tactics. Sad thing is, I think she is partially blind to it, out of a feeling of entitlement, arrogance and frustration.

[TexasObserver]

31. As Obama succeeds more and more, they naturally become more bitter.

They will drag you into their vortex of petty bitterness if you let them, so don't let them.

I'll have an exchange with one of them, but once I see they're just angry and out for conflict, I put them out of their misery and out of my field of vision. Works great. Try it.

[NashVegas]

49. How Would You Define Spam?

For example, how many posts would you expect a DU spammer to make per day, on average?

[Melinda]

54. Over 2100 anti-Obama posts in 35 days = spam.

Join date 1/10/2008. That's a whole lotta spam.

[rodeodance]

57. Have you added up the Anti-clinton Threads?

[NashVegas]

59. And What Would You Call 2200 + Anti-Hillary Posts in 16 Days?

Hmmm?

Because ya see, this is the basic tactic of the average pro-Obama poster: "I know you are, but what am I?"

[Melinda]

66. I'd call it Spam as well. I was addressing the context of this thread which is anti-Obama Spam

Anyone with a join date immediately pre-primaries and thousands of anti-candidate posts is a spammer, afaic.

Better?

[NashVegas]

72. Yes, I Know

But it is 'pot-kettle-black' scenario. Maybe pro-Hillary people just don't feel like using up one of their three threads for the day to accuse other people of what they, themselves, are doing.

[Melinda]

77. I don't know what either side hopes to accomplish, but in the end,

I fear neither will accomplish anything positive for the Democratic party; feeding the RW mania machine is a whole 'nother matter.

I live out in the country and am thus subject to a limited range of talk radio - I pick up one entire right wing station. So as one might guess, being the political animal I am, I have the *pleasure* (cough cough -- tongue in cheek) of hearing what Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc are actually saying to their millions of daily listeners... they repeat the mantra day in and day out, over and over and its become rabid...

And I come to DU and I see and read the same exact talking points here. And I wonder to myself, who has what fucking agenda, Mel, cause something is just not right here, this is as if I'm thru the looking glass and in FR, ya know?

And I am so trying to get with a candidate despite my *personal* feelings toward any of them, cause first and formost I am a democrat and ya know what?

I'm not taking much from DU these days, and I am so sad.

Or maybe I just need coffee. :hi:

Thanks for letting me vent - you had no clue I was gonna use your shoulder, did ya? :)

[NashVegas]

107. Nah, You're Fine

It just happens that ever since I heard Obama use RW talking points against Dems in one of the debates, it became sort of necessary to jump into the fray, so to speak.

[Patsy Stone]

116. My favorite kind of anti-candidate post

comes from a member since 2001 or 2003 with about 200 posts to their name. What? Nothing's gone on in the past seven years you felt strongly enough about to comment on?

[MagickMuffin]

30. You are so right in your assessment

I've spent some time over at hillaryis44.org, and that is exactly their operational procedure, to SPAM SPAM SPAM.

I think a lot of the posters over there are freeperesque in their hatred of Obama and the Democratic Party, add to that their love for Bill O'Rielly, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter, well you get the picture. :eyes:

One poster claimed that they would saw off their arm before voting for Barack. Several claim they will vote for McCain.

They were calling Pelosi, McCatskill, Shriver and Oprah a bitch.

One poster by the name Idunn was making phone calls, explained how she talked to an elderly woman who said her husband was voting for Obama, and the poster told her that Obama was the antichrist, of course she said she was joking. But I wouldn't put it past them.

So, yes ignore them as much as possible. They have nothing to offer along the lines of political discourse.

Also be prepared to have them bitch and moan if McCain wins, because they help put him there by refusing to vote for the Democratic Party. Don't allow them to claim it was all because Obama couldn't win, it will be their own doing by not supporting the Democratic nominee.


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[formernaderite]

32. who cares

is it having an effect? I doubt it. At this point everyone is supporting the candidate they believe in.

[Rene]

33. I want to know who pushes the kool aid drinkers together like they're getting on a Japanese train

for photo ops.

[terrya]

34. You're joking, right?

Please tell me this is satire.

[totodeinhere]

37. Every poll I have seen at DU goes 2-1 for Obama or better.

I know that these are unscientific polls, but it sure looks like Obama supporters outnumber Hill supporters about 2-1 at DU based upon these polls. Yet the anti-Obama posts are more numerous than anti-Hillary posts.

The number of anti-Obama posts does not reflect the prevailing opinion among all posters at DU, so this tells me that the OP's assumption is correct. There is a small but persistent group of Hill supporters that is trying to skew DU in favor of Hillary when in fact most people at DU support Obama.

I used to think that they were paid operatives from the Clinton campaign, but since their campaign is apparently almost broke I guess not. They must just be volunteer disrupters.

[Moh96]

52. very interesting

[MethuenProgressive]

62. DU's Obamas are well known for the number of sockpuppets they use.

[jackson_dem]

147. The "anti" Hillary posts far outnumber the posts on Obama's record

[Kahuna]

153. What you say is true. Yet you'll see posters proudly announce that because

of all the nastiness from Obama supporters they have decided to support Hillary. :crazy: They go immediately on ignore with me because they show no capacity to rationalize and make realistic assessments. Why waste my time with that.

[NJmaverick]

39. It's all they have left, the candidate is no where near as good as Obama

So spam, deception and dirty tricks are all they have left.

[TexasObserver]

40. Bush had the Coalition of the Willing. Hill has the Coalition of the Shilling.

oh snap

[rodeodance]

70. we are up against SWOONERS like the OP.

exasObserver (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-16-08 07:25 AM
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40. Bush had the Coalition of the Willing. Hill has the Coalition of the Shilling.

oh snap

[Libby2]

131. Obama has the coalition of the swilling.

[shayes51]

41. That's right. Obama is so perfect

that people could only post for Hillary through some kind of evil plot. Get over yourself.

[my3boyz]

43. Yes..he is perfect compared to that witch you support!

[rodeodance]

63. Rude much?

[jackson_dem]

148. No one could honestly support anyone other the One True Leader

[Bread and Circus]

42. I have about 60 or more Hillary supporters on IGNORE because I just

couldn't stomach the BS anymore but I notice there seem to be tons of Hillary supporters w/ low post counts all of a sudden. Very strange indeed.

[TexasObserver]

46. It's the Charge of the Sock Puppet Brigade

I noticed the same thing. You put them on IGNORE, and then they pop up with some account they've had buried for years, with the same tired bullshit. I operate on Three Strikes You're Out. There is literally no point in getting sucked into some mindless, neverending yammering with one of them.

[golddigger]

64. The only thing that sucks is your mindless never ending yammering.

"Accounts that have been buried for years." This is from someone who has over a thousand posts and only has been on DU for only three weeks? What was your other account name? You seem to pop up every election year to spew RW talking points and your mindless never ending yammering.

[rodeodance]

67. You describe lots of Obamafolk very well "mindless, neverending yammering"

[flyarm]

105. you mean like you?? watch out your mirror may break!!

It's the Charge of the Sock Puppet Brigade
Posted by TexasObserver

Member since Jan 31st 2008
Number of posts 2272

[UALRBSofL]

112. OK I'm awake now drinking coffee

flyarm, I just had to post on this one. He is such a freaky freeper, the worst. If anyone should be tombstoned it should be him. He, along with that proudtbeamurican(or whatever it was) poster are like two peas in a pod. Now, back to my coffee.

RODEO, if you read this post mail me a message, I need info for my calling list. Thanks. :)

[jackson_dem]

149. And a lot of new Obamites with low posts counts. Anything going on to raise political interest?

[flordehinojos]

44. having a mind of one's own is now called by you, "receiving orders to spam the internet" ...

o, i am so glad my mind is mine and free to discern what passes for crap, what is born out of manipulations and how much obama distorts and manipulates. no orders received here. except the dictums of my own mind and my lifelong allegiance to truth, honesty, my own sense that hillary's lifelong work on behalf of people of all kinds and colors speaks a whole lot louder to truth and accomplishments than obama's soft (or what some call ispirational) rhetoric.

}(

[Lerkfish]

45. well, they've been doing it all along, I wouldn't worry about it.

I don't think posting a thread like this helps any.

[RBInMaine]

50. Hillary is a HUGE risk in the general election.

This is a no brainer. Half the country dislikes Hillary, and that won't change. She is extremely polarizing and would energize the R's BIGTIME. She is a HUGE risk. The numbers are the numbers, and they are consistent and stable. Right now she loses to McCain in most polls whereas Obama beats him. Obama is by far the more electable candidate. This party would be foolish to nominate someone with such high national negatives as Hillary. What don't the Hillary supporters understand here?
Obama beats her hands down among Independents. The R's are afraid of Obama, but they are PRAYING that Hillary will be nominated because it would be a gift to their fractured base. We need to win, and Obama is the far more electable national candidate. Period, and incontrovertable.

[DemGa]

55. Why are Hillary's "negatives" so high with "half the country"?

[Kahuna]

86. She has had over a year to turn around this trend and has failed to do

so. The reason isn't really important. It may be irrational but it is what it is. She's outta here. It's foolish to continue to waste time with her. Especially when it's been revealed what a messy campaign she's run.

[rodeodance]

92. "She's outta here."---in your dreams sweetie

[DemGa]

94. I think the reason is important

If you are going to use that "negative" perception against her as Obama has, it's important to recognize the source. This is Obama's use of those negatives--you should be able to back it up, provided you are his supporter.

[TexasObserver]

126. My goal is winning elections for Democrats from the courthouse to the White House.

That's why my first choice was John Edwards.

That's why my second choice is Barack Obama.

That's why I am certain I don't want Hillary Clinton at the top of the ticket, because I've had to deal with the carnage to the House, the Senate, and the State Houses when we get dragged down by a candidate who can't even deliver the Democratic side of the ledger, muchless anyone in the middle.

John and Barack would both be decent candidates in that regard. Better than Kerry or Gore were.

Hillary will be down in Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis territory, except she will likely cost us even more down ballot carnage.

These are not unusual thoughts, as they are shared by many Democrats who know the party and its successes will be set back years if Hillary gets the nomination.

[Moh96]

51. I don't believe they have been giving orders, thats pushing it but I do believe

since that has been the Clinton's tactics all along, their supporters just simply follow in their footsteps

[DemGa]

53. But this is ObamaSpam

Of course; the crying, blaming Hillary for the right-wing attacks she's endured. Nasty, nasty ObamaSpam.

[rodeodance]

93. :-)

DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-16-08 08:14 AM
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53. But this is ObamaSpam

Of course; the crying, blaming Hillary for the right-wing attacks she's endured. Nasty, nasty ObamaSpam.
Your vision will become

[rodeodance]

56. my gawd. Are you for real??

[rodeodance]

58. We do not get "orders" from Clinton--Perhaps you get them from Obama??

[rodeodance]

60. Paronaid much??

[golddigger]

68. I heard that Xanax will help you with your problem.

[backscatter712]

71. It only takes a few people.

Maybe they're Hillary's paid astroturfers, or maybe they're Freepers stirring the shit.

Give each person a half dozen DU accounts, and they look like a mob, and they get around the new 3-threads-a-day rule.

Yeah. It's the smell of desperation when they're using these tactics.

[TexasObserver]

80. It takes a village ... to spam for Hillary

[rodeodance]

87. "It takes a village ... to spam for Obama"

[MethuenProgressive]

96. "It takes a village moran ... to spam for Obama"

:rofl:

[golddigger]

97. Lmao!

:rofl:

[harun]

73. The three post rule helped stop some of the Hillary Spammers but

I guess there was more of them than we thought. So they can still spam it quite a bit.

[rodeodance]

101. yes the has cut down somewhat on the Hillary-hate slime.

[nolabels]

75. Yep, probably true, i have been here for years and seen them come and go......

They won't last long so enjoy them and that kind of strange humor while you can :-)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

76. you mean like this ...is this advocating spamming?......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4614293#4614341

[Triana]

81. The people doing the majority of spamming are Obama supporters (n/t)

[rodeodance]

90. Yes--see that thread upstream with the numbers

[NoBorders]

84. There's definitely a pro-HRC wave of posts

over the past few days. I don't think its marching orders, just frustration.

[rodeodance]

89. Many of us prefer to post Positive Threads about Hillary INSTEAD of HIllary hate threads that Obama

folks post.

[NoBorders]

91. Many, yes.

But there plenty of anti-Obama threads.

Actually I don't really care anymore, I just don't bother with with flame-bait threads anymore.

[TexasObserver]

123. I agree. It's not organized, but it is emulating the Clinton campaign theme of being the victim.

And it emulates the Clinton campaign's penchant for nastiness and blaming everyone but their candidate and her complete inability to run a cogent campaign that can win elections and inspire voters.

Hillary's campaign can't even organize in most states in primaries.

There might be one staffer in the Clinton campaign who has some connection to all this, but I doubt it's anything more than a mass mailout by email of daily talking points, to anyone who put their name on some list.

The biggest problem here is the same one the Clinton campaign has from top to bottom: They accept no responsibility for their own failures, always blame their opponents, the media, or others for their problems, and attack excessively anyone who disagrees with them. There's an element of psychosis that is apparent in the way many Hill posters go about their business here. Angry, unhappy, unhealthy, belligerent, dysfunctional people.

[NoBorders]

136. I think it stems primarily from Clinton's declining fortunes

and the resultant frustration of her supporters who had henceforth assumed her nom was a lock. But what do I know.

[jackson_dem]

150. A lot of Edwardians moved to Hillary after he dropped out. That's a big reason

[davsand]

88. The Hide Thread feature can be your best friend.

Ignore can be another blessing. I never used either of those until just before Super Tuesday, and I have to admit I'm sorry I waited so long to start. I find that a liberal application of both has improved my GDP experience a huge amount.


Laura

[MethuenProgressive]

95. kicking the ObamaBot Sockpuppet Spam, as ordered!

:rofl:

[golddigger]

98. You see if they put us on ignore we can't interrupt their Obama circle jerk

[ElsewheresDaughter]

103. totally pathetic...and I being wrongly prevented from starting a thread..I haven't posted any today

[rodeodance]

99. HOOT HOOT--good one.

[MNDemNY]

100. Yes, DU is the most powerful and influential web site in the nation.

There is SO much to be gained by such a strategy. The entire election could hinge on the MILLIONS of people who rely on DU for all of their information used to decide their vote. Jeezus H. Christ! c'mon! gobama?

[BlackVelvet04]

102. waaaaaaaaah.....n/t

[Triana]

104. Poor witto Obabies...

The election won't be won or lost in here. Don't worry about it. Besides, much of the anti-Hillary spam comes from YOU - and how is that different? It ain't. If you're going to punch - expect to get punched back. It's politics. That's how it is. I'm not sure you or Obaba can handle it though.

[Cameron27]

106. What a smug and arrogant OP

very much like the guy you support.

[JimGinPA]

110. I'm Getting A Little Tired Of The "Arrogant" Label

Why is it that she is "strong" while he is "arrogant". Kind of a supjective assesment since many of we Obama supporters see it conversely.

[MNDemNY]

111. Too damn bad.

[TexasObserver]

121. It's a fiction that exists only in the minds of those people.

Delusion is all they have left, and they're using it in large quantities.

[TexasObserver]

119. Great description of yourself.

Thanks for making it easy to put you on IGNORE. Another nasty Hill fan gone.

[Eurobabe]

128. I just troll these threads looking for nasty Clinton supporters to put on my ignore list

Congrats, you just made it. Bye now :hi:

[corkhead]

151. more projection from the hillary camp

[Unbowed]

109. I've noticed that.

It's not doing any good. This kind of vile attack strategy is something we've seen before and are used to. It comes from the right-wingers whenever they are feeling threatened and desperate. It isn't going to fly here. They put up 10 or 20 threads attacking Obama and about the same amount accusing Obama (and Obama supporters) of attacking Hillary. It's transparent and quite pathetic. I don't post in any of their threads and just roll my eyes when I see another one. I'm not sure if these folks are right-wingers or Hillary supporters and frankly it doesn't matter if the results are the same. It's the exact same poison you see here that you can find on right-wing sites.

What does not speak well for Senator Clinton is the fact that in the past several days her anti-Obama rhetoric has been exactly the same (almost word-for-word) as that of John McCain. If I hadn't already been an Obama supporter, that would have given me a lot to think about.

As it is, I've said all along that both Clinton and Obama are good Democrats and I'd proudly vote for either in the general. Lately, I'm not so sure. If Clinton is going to turn into McCain, what's the difference? I don't want to hear any Democrat sound like McCain no matter how close friends they are. Tag-teaming Obama with Bill and Hillary was one thing, but tag-teaming Obama with Hillary and McCain is another.

Spammers, say what you will, but it's not going to change the fact that this kind of tactic will backfire on a DEMOCRAT. We don't like our candidates to behave like the other side.

[Seabiscuit]

113. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y?

[incapsulated]

120. No, they don't understand the meaning of the word

The Koolaide wipes it from their brains and every attack on Hillary is righteous, deserved and "fact".

Any criticism of Obama is slander, "desperate" and lies.

[Asia Expat]

114. Though I only recently began posting here...

I have come to DU for years and always loved Mondays for The Top 10 Conservative Idiots. Always a good laugh.

I no longer have to wait for Monday...

Now when I need a good laugh I'll just look for your posts.

[in_cog_ni_to]

125. Welcome to DU, Asia Expat!

:hi:

[rodeodance]

135. welcome--To me, the OP was a good laugh early this am.

[tandem5]

122. whoa... wow I dont see that

[in_cog_ni_to]

124. Poor babies. This is just a small little taste of what you'll be up against in the GE...when the

repukes get going on Obama. Deal with it.

[AJH032]

127. you are delusional

the number of anti-Hillary posts here greatly exceed the anti-Obama posts. It's shocking that anyone would say otherwise, and suggest there are "orders" to spam the internet by Hillary supporters. Really, the only adjective I can think of is sad.

[cooolandrew]

129. Just come at the HRC supporters with positivity and love and the negativity will burn out...

.. I imagine it's what Barack would wish us to do. Keepsin the spirit of his campaign. We're wating with open arms when you are ready HRC supprters to join Team Obama. If you choose to do so, all up to you. \:)/

[BenDavid]

130. So it is now become a "race campaign", where all the blacks

support obama and whites are bigots and racist if they do not support obama? Obama is not competent to become president. Democrats had this election won before obama decided he had to save us. Well, if obama wins the nomination and mccain wins then what has obama achieved? Nothing except set the democratic party back 8 more years. I believe this is more about what obama will get out of this then how best he can help america. He will become the new face for blacks and Dr King will be pushed into the background. I doubt serious obama will seek re-election to teh senate because he will now become "the man" and he will strut across the stage and give that big ass grin and then bs folks as he is doing now.....oh obama's future is bright and hell, he will have to wear shades.....

[ronnykmarshall]

132. Just love the little lecture and talking down to us.

Thanks so much, my dear Obama supporter. :eyes:

[Cha]

133. That's why I put them all

on Ignore so I can ignore the negative spam and see the posts that have something intelligent to add in getting our candidate elected. I'm not as sure as you are, but I admire your optimism, immensely!

[Jamastiene]

134. Hyperbole much? n/t

[rndmprsn]

137. what did you expect from the status quo parading as progressive dems...

aside from just being lame as hell and boring...clinton's supporters show her true colors...nasty, deceptive and willing to do ANYTHING to win.

kiss my ass if you don't like it...

[hijinx87]

138. jeez.

[sniffa]

139. It doesn't look that way to me

thanks to my healthy ignore list. :woohoo:

[dalloway]

140. I agree with original poster

Things have gotten so crazy here, I spend very little time here these days other than a quick glance. Spending more time at DailyKos where it is hard for the crap and uncivil dialogue to make it to the top.

[Name removed]

141. Deleted message

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[Barack_America]

142. Hey! This post again?

Don't you have anything different...or worthwhile to say?

[mtnsnake]

152. Paranoia + Delusion = a trip to the Funny Farm

Pack your bags!