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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:06 PM
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Democratic party elders on edge of freak out
Democratic Party Elders on Edge of Freak Out

NY Times: Officially neutral leaders hope to avoid an Obama-Clinton deadlock — and bitter feelings — with private talks and patience.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/us/politics/16delegates.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1203181519-+IfyAfKtQdo5dKWKhu6kkg

Former Vice President Al Gore and a number of other senior Democrats plan to remain neutral for now in the presidential race in part to keep open the option to broker a peaceful resolution to what they fear could be a bitterly divided convention, party officials and aides said Friday.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:08 PM
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1. Freak out? I loved Chic in the 1970's!!!!! n/t
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:14 PM
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5. I liked part of it.
I was big fan of the pot and meaningless sex. But the polyester was a bit much...and the platform shoes were horrendous.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:15 PM
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6. I meant Chic...the band...that had the hit "Freak Out"
I still love disco. sue me!
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:19 PM
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8. Oh, I didn't like them, either.
Disco was so hideous that I'd repressed all memory of it. Now you've reminded me. Back to therapy for me. :)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:29 PM
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14. If Beethoven were alive, he'd be listening to Donna Summer!
:P
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:22 PM
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22. he had syphilis and was only listening to his own auditory hallucinations, that's why he went deaf,
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 01:22 PM by sam sarrha
but he was a good enough composer to wright down what was ringing in his head, ..from POX: genesis of genius, madness and the mysteries of syphilis, by Debora Hayden.

in Victorian times at least 25 %, up to 50% of men had syphilis,

a fascinating book
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:21 PM
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24. Oh, Sam,
it's write, not wright.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:02 PM
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25. thanks for being nice..really i appreciate it, i have Aspergers Syndrome, Dyslexia, etc, i am a high
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 03:04 PM by sam sarrha
functioning autistic, i have an IQ of 164, but am functionally illiterate, i do have good verbal skills, but spell check doesn't solve all my problems.

thank you for not abusing the disabled, as the Spelling Nazi's do so gleefully.

this isn't a collage final term paper, i don't always reread it, and when this page turns, whatever is on it will fade into history forever, never to return.... it matters not, but your kindness will remain.

i also lost my left hand in an accident, i am reduced to typing with one finger..... try it for a while
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:03 PM
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21. Just spare us the resurgence of Brut
Okay. . .?

And keep it on your Ipod.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:22 PM
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10. We need a "pot and meaningless sex" candidate!
Thats something I'd vote for!
Oh wait... we already had Bill Clinton.
Damn.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:23 PM
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11. Ah, he was a poser.
He didn't even inhale. He said so on MTV, so it HAS to be true.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:11 PM
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2. I'm voting "D" this November regardless of who wins the primaries...
I assume that holds true for a lot of other "D"s as well.

The only "bitter feelings" I have are directed toward Bush in particular and the Repubs in general...

And "bitter" doesn't begin to describe them! :grr:

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:13 PM
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3. The DLC and DNC are in a death match for the party
This war between the moderates and progressives cannot continue.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:14 PM
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4. Article makes it seem like Gore is the reason for Edwards' neutrality.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:17 PM
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7. Then both are to be commended for being statesmen instead of stepping in and
creating more animosity.

I actually applaud these fissures coming to light,they've been there a long time, because it's time the Democratic Party address the disconnect they've demonstrated from their own party's platform of liberalism.

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:24 PM
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23. i want a bumper sticker.. " John Edwards: the only grown up in the room"
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:19 PM
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9. Something I found that was interesting is the bit about Edwards
"At a private dinner that Mr. Edwards, a former senator, held at his home last Saturday for a dozen close friends, he said he had spoken recently with Mr. Gore about the benefits of neutrality, someone who was at the dinner said. Although a number of his supporters had been urging him to endorse Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton has actively sought his backing, Mr. Edwards said he intended to remain on the fence for the time being, the person said.".

It does not seem like Edwards is going to endorse anyone. At least not now.

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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:27 PM
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13. YIPPEE, WHOOP, WHOOP... And A Big HURRAY! Good For You
John Edwards! Betcha, had he not "suspended" his campaign, by what I think was a "PUSH" from insiders, I feel Gore would have endorsed John Edwards!

America MISSED it's chance! Sure, John Edwards was yet another white male, but he was the BEST CANDIDATE this time around! IMHO!!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:25 PM
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12. Whoever wins the popular vote wins the nomination. Any less and I will not be voting.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:43 PM
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20. So, don't vote and say hello to President McCain. Make no
mistake about it, this will be a close election regardless whether it's Obama or Clinton on the ballot. We are going to need every Democratic vote to insure that we get a Democrat in the White House. Even if it isn't the candidate that you support now, we can't afford, as a country, to give the Republicans 4-8 more years in power.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:30 PM
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15. Very interesting.
This is a heck of a primary. It has the potential for resulting in something either very good, or something very bad. I hope that one candidate moves ahead far enough that the convention is a time where the party can come together.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:30 PM
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16. good!
The comfortable need to be afflicted every so often...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:30 PM
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17. wow, it says a lot if they're not backing Hillary
you'd think she'd have the establishment locked up.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:31 PM
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18. You'd think Gore would be all over supporting Hillary. He knows her pretty well.
That speaks volumes that he has remained silent.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:38 PM
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19. it speaks volumes that there are so many uncommitted superdelegates
these people are looking for any reason NOT to go to Clinton.

and I think the people who have gone to clinton expect a little quid pro quo, or are paying that back.
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