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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:51 PM
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"Judy Collison dreamt of the day she would vote for a woman for president" but...
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 12:54 PM by usregimechange
As a little girl, Judy Collison dreamt of the day she would vote for a woman for president.

And as someone who spent 20 years as a child abuse prevention advocate, she is grateful for the work Sen. Hillary Clinton has done to improve the lives of children and families.

But Collison says she can't, in good conscience, vote for the New York senator in Tuesday's presidential primary because of her vote in 2002 to send troops to Iraq and her support of military operations as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

"I have been angry, frustrated and exasperated with Hillary Rodham Clinton in terms of the opportunity she had for speaking up for the people who were serving," says Collison, 51, a resident of Oregon, whose daughter once dated a young man now serving his second tour in Iraq. "The war has come home to our family."

Collison, a feminist and lifelong Democrat, is collecting signatures and money for an ad that will run in Sunday's Wisconsin State Journal under the banner "100 Wisconsin Women Say 'Yes' To Obama."

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/272845



http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/Seth77
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:53 PM
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1. K&R!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:58 PM
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2. Some of them include:
...prominent women's rights leaders have also come out for Obama, including Ellen Bravo, former director of 9 to 5, National Association of Working Women, and Kate Michelman, former president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. In Wisconsin, U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore of Milwaukee is a vocal Obama supporter.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:59 PM
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3. I do certainly agree....
...war is not healthy for children and other living things...:cry:

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:04 PM
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4. K&R
:thumbsup:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:08 PM
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5. Another weakness
of abused women is the inability to focus on set goals. Abused women also give off a beaker-like signal telling others she has weak boundaries, freqently falling back into old behavior; same story-different character. Seems like drinking the Obama kool-aide was served up to our little Judy...She won't follow her dream..just continue the dysfunction.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:37 PM
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6. How the hell do relate this to abused women/weak boundaries?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:38 PM
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7. Holy crap
How do you live with yourself?

Wow.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:40 PM
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8. I will need some time to digest that one and I treat abused women.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:44 PM
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10. Amazing, huh?
And kind of scary, too! I cannot believe I am seeing unmitigated shit like this.

JMHO
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:43 PM
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9. How many abused women has YOU represented pro bono in court...
...in order to obtain restraining orders for them? I have done a hell of a lot of this before I retired from practicing law.

I also have a masters in ed psych....and what you are putting out is total garbage...actually beyond garbage, but I just hate to use the phrase "stupid shit" all the time when I see stupid shit, so I will just say garbage instead.

JMHO
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:14 PM
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20. How about ..
"stupid shyte"? Use the Irish term for variety? :(

Not to belabor the point but we're writing about one of the Ignores for me and I can't tell you how justified I feel..this never use to happen before hilary started to run.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:53 PM
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24. Thanks....
...I agree ~~ this is getting old. And, yeah, before Hillary came on the scene, I never had problems like this.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:57 PM
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33. I never EVER heard crap like I hear here from DEMOCRATS before HRC started her "inevitable bid"
for the most powerful position in the world. She proves her own divisiveness right down the line, and also the hatred and bitterness that follows her around. We simply MUST move beyond this as a nation, most certainly as a party.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:46 PM
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11. How Does...
"someone who spent 20 years as a child abuse prevention advocate" make her an abused woman? Do you ever actually give a thought to what you write or are you content to just to spew vitriol?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:53 PM
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25. Ummmmmm....
...I vote for the latter! :hi:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:03 PM
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27. I think you have stepped outside of the reality-based community.
I read your comment and, for a moment, hoped this was just some sarcastic joke. But it isn't. And you're serious.

I think just having this post here for others to read is a good thing. It's clear you might need to take a break from this primary race.

"Another weakness of abused women is the inability to focus on set goals."

Just damn. Crazy. There are a lot of abused women (many of whom I work with at a crisis shelter) who would disagree with ignorant statement.


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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:13 PM
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28. you have said some despicable things here, but
this one takes it.

and you call yourself a nurse. shame on you.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:54 PM
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31. Allow me to express for the second time how embarassed I am that we share
the same profession. What an abhorrent statement. I'm glad you don't support Obama. You're perfect for Hillary.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:56 PM
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32. That Was Very... Anti-Septic Of You
:wtf:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:47 PM
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12. and yet she gives Obama a free pass for continuing the war. Seems like she is
demanding a higher standard for Clinton than she gives to Obama.

Backwards and in High Heels.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:54 PM
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15. Equating Funding The Troops That Are There Now...
and the vote to authorize the war that Hillary, and many other wrong-minded dems, gave because they were afraid to stand up to the neocons is certainly twisted logic.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:12 PM
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18. twisted? He is running on a platform of being against the war
and yet he DID NOTHING to end the war. NOTHING. How can he run on a platform of being against the war when he funded it at every turn?

And to suggest that de-funding the war would put the troops in harms way is the dumbest argument I have ever heard (rightwing talking point).

OBAMA DID NOTHING TO END THE WAR WHEN HE HAD THE POWER TO.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:37 PM
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22. Hillary Is Also Running As Being Against The War...
But Obama sponsored the bill (that was vetoed) setting a timetable for withdrawal while Hillary voted to send them in the first place. How is that so hard for to understand?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:16 PM
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35. Obama voted the same as Clinton at every turn--as he suggests that he is different than Clinton.
when he had the power to do something different HE DID NOTHING.

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:12 PM
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34. Excellent point.
Obama was AWOL...The opportunity to vote against the War in Iraq was never on this shoulders. He never attended a Protest nor did he organize a Protest. Has there been any evidence beyond his rhetoric that he did anything defying the Powerful *bush and this War?

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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:54 PM
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16. He voted to send the troops home, Bush vetoed, and then he voted to fund it
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:49 PM
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13. IWR excuse is so much bullshit for holding the entire war against Hillallry.
I bet she supported Kerry. I bet she supported Edwards. Hillary's vote carried no more or no less weight than theirs and I don't give a damn if they did say it was a mistake.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:52 PM
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14. I think a lot of us saw what supporting the war did to Kerry.
It just continued the notion he was a major flip-flopper and that was the tone of the '04 election.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:29 PM
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29. Pure speculation on your part
She most likely supported Dean or Kucinich in '04.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:09 PM
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17. Thank you, Judy Collison..I'll
send them some money for that! Very good to know I'm not the only one who sees that act of hilary as the beginnning of the end of anything she could have accomplished if she hadn't sold out like a cold calculating, pandering idiot.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:12 PM
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19. If this lady Democrat voted for Kerry in 2004, she is a sexist hypocrite.
Kerry voted the same way as Hillary on the IWR.

So anyone who voted for Kerry in 2004 DESPITE his IWR vote, who won't vote for Hillary BECAUSE of her IWR vote, is being a hypocrite. Obviously.

And the reason for such obvious hypocrisy has to be either ageism, racism or sexism.

Or, as in this case, maybe a little of all three.

Consider this well: If you voted for Kerry in 2004, but say you won't vote for Hillary this year because of her 2002 IWR vote, you, too, are being a hypocrite.

Right?


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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:15 PM
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21. Hilly also voted for the Kyl-Lieberman amendment
and has routinely pledged to "leave everything on the table" (read nukes) with respect to Iran, and I don't think she's kidding. She's found a constituency and she aims to keep it.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:47 PM
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23. That speaks volumes...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:56 PM
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26. I'm a proud Woman and Army Veteran who feels honored to support Obama.
Go Obama! :patriot:
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:51 PM
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30. if she's against the war, she should write in kucinich. there's no benefit in voting for O over hil
hillary. they're the same.
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