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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:17 PM
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A Legitimate Role for Super Delegates?
Listening to Randi Rhodes yesterday and noted that she was somewhat critical of Obama for seeming to waffle slightly on the role of super delegates in deciding who will be the nominee. I didn't catch it myself when she played a clip of his response to a question about this -- just heard him stating and re-stating that the people/voters should ultimately determine who their candidate will be.

As I thought about possible reasons for why a candidate might not flat-out state that super delegates should not overly influence this decision, it occurred to me that it might be proper for super delegates to override the primary election results if there was compelling evidence that the overall "winner" of the primaries engaged in election fraud.

Of course, I was thinking that might be a legitimate role for electors back in 2000 and in 2004. Didn't happen.

Any comments?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:21 PM
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1. superdelegates for clinton = BAD, superdelegates for Jes..Obama =good nt
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:22 PM
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2. Election fraud = bad
no matter who the candidate.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:24 PM
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3. I have a comment
fuck everybody who tries to insinuate that Clinton is engaging in election fraud.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:34 PM
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4. Retention of Super Delegates does not strike me as a good solution for
election fraud. The Supers could just as easily abet it.

The solution for election fraud is election reform.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:41 PM
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5. Good point!
I am deeply disappointed in congress for not making this a priority.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:44 PM
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6. If you think so,
. . . consider rec'g this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4616041&mesg_id=4616041

We have the power to make election reform an issue.
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:00 PM
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7. "the role of sd's are to stand back & cold bloody analyze who can beat the republican & vote accordi


Wille Brown, ex mayor of SanFransisco
air date of 2.11.08
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:08 PM
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8. Odd, how before this cycle, few questioned the role of superdelegates
It's because for the first time in my memory, at least, that primaries have been so close, so there's a possibility that superdelegates could be a deciding factor.

Let's face it; BOTH candidates are lobbying hard for superdelegate support. The Obama camp's whining about them is hypocritical at best. And superdelegates are not necessarily party insiders; in fact, it was superdelegates who got Dean into his current office DESPITE party insiders.

However, I do think we need to take a hard look at the superdelegates role in the future. But that time is not now; you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
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