Neither Superdelegates nor Sanctioned Delegates(FL,MI) will change the outcome.

[tekisui]

All of the worries and hand-wringing are unfounded. It would benefit NO ONE if Superdelegates usurped the vote of the People, and their is no practical, fair way at this point to seat FL and MI.

The supers will wait until we have a clear winner, with a substantial lead of Pledged delegates to throw their weight behind. Any other use of the supers would be bad for the Democratic Party, the Nominee and obviously the runner-up.

As for FL and MI. Both Candidates agreed to the sanctions before a single vote was cast. The only way they will be seated is if it is either an even split, or a proportional split based on the national count. Either way it will not change the outcome.

If we get to the Convention and neither have 2025, it will fall to the superD's and they will follow the People's vote.

Let the process proceed, and don't get bogged down in hypotheticals.

[SoFlaJet]

1. Um....exCUSE me....but

they are now to be referred to as "automatic delegates" didn't you get your marching orders from the Clinton campaign yesterday morning?

[tekisui]

3. I missed that, who are the Automatics? The SuperDs?

[SoFlaJet]

5. yes

the Clintons have changed them to The Automatic Delegates-you know since they rule the world of democratic politics-it's good to be King...and Queen

[tekisui]

2. A re-caucus is an unrealistic and costly proposition.

A re-Primary is not allowed.

[SoFlaJet]

6. a mail-in

has been suggested teki-where they would send a ballot to every one of the 4.1 million democrats in the state-wanna guess who will be against that one too?

[juajen]

4. Why in hell have them in the first place, if all they do is

pledge their support to the one with the most pledged delegates? That system was started to break virtual ties and take everything into consideration that voters might not. This was the stated purpose for super delegates that I read in a post here that was supposedly taken from the rules of the party,

[no name no slogan]

8. Kind of. The SuperDs were originally instituted to control "The Rabble"

after the McGovern "disaster" of 1972. The party put the SuperDelegate system in place to counteract the will of popularly elected delegates, and to act as a buffer just in case the party rank and file selected somebody the party leadership deemed "unelectable".

The SuperDs are partially there to break ties, but more importantly they are there to make sure the leadership of the party still has final say over the eventual nominee.

[Clovis Sangrail]

7. I hope you're right about the supers

but I don't know that assuming they will "follow the People's vote" is realistic.
Undoubtedly some of them will feel that,regardless of the popular vote, their choice is best for the country.

I know of no obligation for them to vote in a particular way.
:shrug:

[tekisui]

9. They aren't obligated, but they are for the good of the party.

They are intelligent enough to know that it would disenfranchise a motivated electorate. They won't usurp us, it'd be a kiss of death.