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Sat Feb-16-08 03:59 PM
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Right Wing Rag Milwaukee Journal endorses Obama |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:02 PM
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1. Well, I like this "right-wing rag's" |
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analysis of this..
"The Obama campaign has been derisively and incorrectly described as more rock tour than political campaign and his supporters as more starry-eyed groupies than thoughtful voters.
If detractors in either party want to continue characterizing the Obama campaign this way, they will have seriously underestimated both the electorate's hunger for meaningful change in how the nation is governed and the candidate himself."
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:10 PM
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3. Bingo on the underestimation line.. that one is a keeper :-) |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:09 PM
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2. However Right-Wing it is, it can't be bad as an endorsement from Ann Coulter and |
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words of encouragement from George W. himself.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:12 PM
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4. That's right...how quickly we |
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forget just who want hilaryland.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:42 PM
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48. The Shepherd-Express endorsed him too |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:13 PM
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5. Is the Milwaukee paper a right-wing rag? |
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I used to read the Journal a brazillion years ago (I lived in West Bend for a few years when I was little, spent a lot of time in Door County, too), and they used to have this section where the comics were, called the Green Sheet. Do they still have that? It's about the only thing I remember about the MJ. I suppose it must have been a right-wing rag because my Republican grandmother, who liked Nixon, read it avidly.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:29 PM
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16. We used to have 2 papers |
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The Journal and The Sentinal. One was more right one was more left.
They merged and fired most of the liberal writers. Became a corporate cheerleader.
and they killed the beloved green sheet.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:36 PM
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:43 PM
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and they moved Doonesbury to the editorial page next to Mallard Fillmore.
Makes you go Hmmmmm...
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:28 PM
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35. yes. i used to read the Jounal before it merged. cancelled it long time ago |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:14 PM
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6. 81% of corporate media newspaper endorsements go to St. Obama. Reach your own conclusion |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:16 PM
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:19 PM
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10. I'll be damned, you're an undeclared Rockies fan. |
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I feel much better for knowing that.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:36 PM
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23. 13 year fan of the Colorado Rockies.. |
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And I am a native Coloradan married male. Any other questions?
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:43 PM
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26. Yes. Have you ever gone to Pike's Peak? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:43 PM
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And still have the pictures to prove it.
Riding on the cog railway rocks, and Manitou Springs earns my dollars as well.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:19 PM
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12. I like skiing. Does that change your life? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:36 PM
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You still have to reveal your profile before I can take you at your word. You could say giving away money to the poor and I wouldn't believe you if you are still hiding your profile.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:50 PM
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31. Who cares? Folks can put anything in a profile. |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:40 PM
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:19 PM
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11. I conclude what polls tell us is true. Approx 47% of America will never vote for Hillary EVER |
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Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 04:19 PM by Johnny__Motown
That percentage goes up the farther right you move. Roughly 70% of Dems will be satisfied if Hillary is our nominee. Do the math. That means that almost everyone outside the party won't vote for her.
No surprise that the majority of papers that lean to the right will be against her.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:21 PM
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15. 47%? You mean the numbers Kerry and Gore and Bush wound up by the end? |
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Obama will have the same number after the rethugs are done with him.
The polls told us Bush would beat Gore by 11% and that Kerry would beat Bush by 8% (he lost by 3) at this time in 2000 and 2004. Obama is immune to the 11 point loss these "new" candidates suffered? Then there is President Dukakis going from up 17 to losing by 7...
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:34 PM
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19. No, I am using Hillary's negatives. they range from about 44% to 47% (I used the higher number) |
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and Gore got more than 47%, hehe where did you get that number? Another 600 votes in Florida and he would have won it all.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:48 PM
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29. That is where negatives go after the other party is done with you |
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Obama's will rise just like Bush 00' and Kerry 04's did. Gore had high negatives too. Why do you think he was losing by 11 points in the sacred polls at this time in 2000? I guess we should have given up because Bush was inevitable?
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:32 PM
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Take a couple of aspirin and lie down for a while.
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:31 PM
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45. They know what we know. Hillary is incompetent. |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 PM
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46. And on the other side of the aisle, they've been heavily for McCain. Imagine that. n/t |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:17 PM
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8. I still can't believe Hillary actually CANCELED her Eau Claire Wis townhall ... |
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Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 04:18 PM by Alhena
I had to find multiple sources online before I could believe she'd actually do that.
You simply do not do CANCEL a previously scheduled town hall meeting right before the state votes in a primary. It simply is not done. And the reason the Clinton campaign cited - a scheduling conflict - is insulting to the entire state.
It was bad enough that she started her campaign so late in Wisconsin, but to actually schedule a town hall meeting- where's she'd get her much balyhooed opportunity to answer the questions of Wisconsin voters- and then say "nevermind- got other things to do" is incredible.
The only reason I can see for this is some personality quirk in Hillary that hates losing anything without some built-in excuse for doing so. So now she can say she didn't campaign hard there- good for her.
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:28 PM
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34. Yeah, what's so important in Texas |
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that it can't wait a day or two?
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:18 PM
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9. Is that supposed to be good news for Obama fans or bad news for Obama fans? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:20 PM
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13. I hope it's good news. They don't take bad news very well. |
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:29 PM
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36. Yeah, and hilaryland takes it so well she |
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scoots outta Wisconsin early.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:21 PM
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14. Did they spell his name correctly? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:31 PM
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17. I don't know. Can't think for yourself? |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:30 PM
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44. I think for myself quite well, thanks. An endorsement from a right-wing rag is an endorsement (good) |
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but the blessing of a right-wing rag is not something a progressive candidate would necessarily covet (bad).
I was just wondering if you meant this as a boost for Obama's cross-party appeal or an attack on his progressive credentials.
I'm an Obama supporter (now that Kucinich and Edwards have dropped out), but I have no illusions that he's anything other than Clinton with a better marketing plan (a/k/a a better campaign).
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 PM
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51. I just posted two facts |
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The journal is right wing.
they endorsed Obama.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:34 PM
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20. Well, that Right Wing Rag The New York Times endorsed Clinton. |
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Seems like the rags are right wing only in the eye of the beholder.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:35 PM
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21. First you assume I support Clinton |
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second, you should live here in Milwaukee and tell me it's not right-wing.
third, tit for tat is a fun game, no?
:eyes:
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:49 PM
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Hey, I'm in Cincinnati, and our paper is without a doubt a right-wing rag. I expect them to endorse Clinton, to be honest.
I just think the whole "leftie papers like Clinton, wingnut papers like Obama" thing has been effectually disproven.
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Sat Feb-16-08 04:51 PM
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32. That may be, but nowhere in this thread is that stated by me. |
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Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 04:51 PM by RetroLounge
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:23 PM
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33. I've never seen The Journal sentinel as a RW rag at all. |
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:31 PM
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39. Not sursprizing you do not see it as RW-most of your posts use RW talk. |
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:36 PM
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:56 PM
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49. They can't help pooping on people |
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When they're full of shit it tends to get on others.
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:45 PM
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:30 PM
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37. why doesn't all these RW endorsement alarm people? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:31 PM
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40. Oh it does alarm some of us.eom |
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:46 PM
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43. The Houston Chronicle endorsed Obama today too...jays'us h christ! it don't get any redder than that |
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Sun Feb-17-08 02:32 PM
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47. The Obambots are in denial. |
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They actually believe the MSM is their friend now. :eyes:
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Sun Feb-17-08 03:15 PM
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50. In the primaries, most major daily papers endorse one from each major party |
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So right now, it's not such a big deal. Come the general election, however...
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:30 PM
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38. Yay "post-partisanship" |
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Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 05:30 PM by Reterr
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