HillaryLand Has Turned Into Alice In Wonderland

[MannyGoldstein]

I've seen crazy shit, but this takes the cake.

Looks like the Clintons have switched from race baiting to simply making crap up out of whole cloth. The Deceitful Duo's legions are claiming that Obama lied when he said he'd accept public financing in the general election if his opponent also accepted it. However, Obama's not said otherwise, and it ain't general election campaign season yet, so he's certainly not done otherwise.

How disturbing is it when people are so desperate to win that they make things up? It's sociopathic.

I expect this from Republicans, but not from Democrats.

[TexasObserver]

1. Ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall

[XemaSab]

3. Feed your head

with some Hope flavored kool-aid! :9

[JackORoses]

2. It's really odd for Hillary to attack Obama for something relating to the GE

she seems to be ceding him the nomination in doing so.

How can you attack someone for something that can only happen if you lose?

[Cha]

5. Yeah, what a defeatist...

Giving up already. Oh well, hilary, we knew ya too well.

[BringBigDogBack]

18. 'we knew ya too well'

5 Stars.

[K Gardner]

4. I expect absolutely anything at this point from the Desperate Hillary Camp. It is no

doubt the candidate who is inspiring this type of amoral and right wing behavior - behavior that has even the most jaded politicians and journalists shaking their heads in awe. Truly one for the history books. The latest, which I am still struggling to believe.. we are now not counting ACTUAL VOTES (because those votes show Obama clearly winning the popular vote totals thus far).. instead, we are COUNTING EXIT POLL DATA. I'm series 11!! See the thread.. its here, its actually being discussed. Those of us who want to count "votes" are WRONG because "we don't count rethugs or indies !!"

Are you fucking kidding me? I am ashamed of people who call themselves democrats and promote this garbage. The effects of this will be felt for years to come. Seriously, who are these people who support Hillary Clinton? IMO, the people promoting the "win at all costs/any price/any tactic" b/s need to stop the hemorrhaging of our party and just go on and migrate to the other side. That is where they belong.

[mopinko]

10. i hear ya. well hill is gonna make history one way or the

other. the other will be sad, but it sure looks that way. i saw that thread, and it hurt my brain.

[Diamonique]

6. This is nuts.

He said he'd consider it. He never said positively that he'd do it.

And it's not a decision that has to be made unless he wins the nomination. Does Hillary believe Obama is going to win?

Personally, I don't think he should do it. Fuck McCain. Obama needs to pull in the big bucks and win this thing! And I'll say the same if Hillary gets the nomination. No candidate should tie his/her own hands. Beating McCain should be the #1 goal.

[CitizenLeft]

7. I absolutely postively agree wholeheartedly

"Personally, I don't think he should do it. Fuck McCain. Obama needs to pull in the big bucks and win this thing! And I'll say the same if Hillary gets the nomination. No candidate should tie his/her own hands. Beating McCain should be the #1 goal."

FUCK MCCAIN. You got that right. Lemme say it again. FUCK MCCAIN.

And I fully expect Hillary to refuse to agree to such bullshit herself. The party of big business and their millions and millions of dollars to smear our candidate? Fuck them! It's suicide for the Dem nom to agree to this, because the Republicans know full well that THIS election season, we will wipe the floor with them with campaign dollars. I don't care WHAT Obama promised. To hell with that.

[creeksneakers2]

26. Why wait until the nomination?

Obama made a pledge. He's backing off the pledge now. Hillary is just pointing that out.

[union_maid]

8. She should be supporting the Democrat in Nov, eh?

I know that's the very least I expect of either of the remaining candidates. To have one of them imply that s/he'd like to see the nominee go into that election with any less that every advantage at his or her disposal is disturbing, to say the least.

[Trajan]

9. Just another mean assed thread ...

From a poster who cant get enough of them ....

[Cha]

21. Maybe you should do some investigating

before you start hurling insults.

<snip>"By KATE SNOW, ELOISE HARPER, DAVID WRIGHT and SUNLEN MILLER
Feb. 17, 2008

Share The Clinton campaign says Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is breaking his word by refusing to commit to taking public financing, should he become the Democratic nominee.

On a conference call Sunday afternoon with reporters, Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson accused Obama of going back on a pledge they say he made last year, to participate in public financing if the Republican opponent would also agree to do so."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4303783&page=1

That's right..another class move by hilaryland.

[Trajan]

28. Whatever news story you produce ....

Doesnt justify the insulting nature of the the OP posts .....

Calling someone 'mean assed' isn't an insult, if they do in fact have interject 'meanness' into the dialogue .....

I support both Democratic party candidates .... I reject the meanness on BOTH sides .... This OP isnt immune to those same, well-founded condemnations .... Claiming someone who supports a candidate you do not support 'did it first' isn't justification to commit the same transgression .... Tu Quoque fallacy ...

[rodeodance]

22. many of them remind me of Tweety who is obsessed with Hillary.

[ThatPoetGuy]

11. Where did the Clintons say this?

Or is this just another of those imaginary controversies that makes me embarrassed to be an Obama supporter?

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Here

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4303783&page=1

[ThatPoetGuy]

24. Thanks, and sorry for the jabs.

You might want to include the link in the OP.

[MannyGoldstein]

25. No Problem - I Should Have Included The Link

Too late to edit the post now - site won't let me.

I can absolutely see how you could think I was making this up - it's astonishing.

[Cha]

20. Just quit it..all you do is

whine that you're embarrassed to be an Obama supporter..you're not fooling anyone.

[ThatPoetGuy]

23. "Fooling anyone"?

I am an Obama supporter now. I would have preferred Edwards, but I take the best I can find. Obama is the best candidate left in the race.

My problems on DU aren't with Obama himself -- not often, anyway -- but with tendencies among many (not all) of his followers. If more of his supporters were capable of saying, "He's pretty amazing but he's not perfect," half these issues would go away and you'd convert a lot of the neutral people. You'd even convert some of the Hillary people.

As it stands, I was wrong in this thread. The lack of a link in the OP led me to conclude, falsely, that this wasn't based on anything that came fro the Clintons but something from a Hillary-ite here on DU. I was wrong.

See that? It's not so hard to admit imperfection.

[godai]

12. She should not be making an issue of this.. Obama should do what is best for getting elected.

To try to make an issue of this, by any Democrat, is uncalled for and in Clinton's case, desperate.

[creeksneakers2]

27. If Hillary breaks a pledge

You can be sure Obama will call her on it.

[LadyVT]

13. Sociopathic means lack of empathy

[Binka]

30. We Know That

And your point is?

[bonito]

15. They have to make it look like she won

Don't you know.

[jazzjunkysue]

16. Makes me miss John Edwards all the more. He was above all this.

What a pro. What a gentleman. We needed him, and it looks like Hillary was this year's Nader.

[BringBigDogBack]

17. Aint it grand?

Hahaha :rofl:

[BringBigDogBack]

19. Throwing shit at the wall, and hoping it sticks...

is what it has come to

[Cha]

29. Alas! What else do they

have? I'm sure they'd like to know.

[pnwmom]

31. So who said what exactly? Do you have a link?

I hope if either one of them is the nominee they won't take Federal funding. None of the Rethugs would have, if they had been able to raise enough funds this time around.

[MannyGoldstein]

32. Here

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4303783&page=1