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Sun Feb-17-08 11:43 PM
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Judging by her mismanagement of her campaign... is Mrs. Inevitable ready for day one? |
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Everyone knows how she had every shot in the world and blew it. It was all on a silver platter and she still couldn't nail it. Heck, even with her 1994 healthcare proposal, she worked under the auspices of a supportive President (her husband!) and still fell flat on her face.
Obviously, one cannot be "ready for day one" if they're not even ready to manage a campaign where they started out and remained way ahead of everyone else for a long time, only to engage in a Chinese water torture of fumbles and handing Obama the football (with a pretty bow on it sometimes!). Giving up all the "little" states (presumably full of the little people, to Miss Leona Clinton) was a prime example of a gross fumble.
What do you call a person who supposedly has all the resources to win, for a very long time, and squanders it all, to end up going down like the Hindenburg?
A loser in a hot black pantsuit. And losers can't hack it on day one, or any other day in the fiercest political job on Earth, the American Presidency.
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:44 PM
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1. She's ready to mismanage on Day One |
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:50 PM
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4. According to statistics I saw on CNN(?) |
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To this point, Hillary raised $110 million, while Obama raised $80 million. I guess he has had a better return on investment. I guess it is those cheap words that did it for Obama.
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:53 PM
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7. $500,000 on parking. Imagine how much they spent at Starbucks. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:07 AM
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:34 AM
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22. remember GW f'd up everything and still got "elected" |
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Hillary will do ANYTHING to get in office.
And anything is possible!
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:17 AM
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34. Dubya was anointed early by the RNC. Hillary can't even win with $125 mil and Bill's resume. |
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She's more like Walter Mondale than any candidate the past 30 years.
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:49 PM
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2. How are those flames? eom |
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:50 PM
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3. Not that Incompetency Inc needed another straw |
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But they are just NOW finding out how the Texas primary works? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4637149Damn. Someone should have maybe googled that up and bookmarked it back a few months ago. You know -- just incase anything happened on the way to the coronation.
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:50 PM
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5. She never was ready on day one - she got bad advice and lacked the spine |
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to stand up to the people who were giving her the bad advice, such as the dog previously known as big.
Not a good performance for someone who has based her whole campaign on "experience".
she's been outsmarted, out-toughed, out-maneuvered and out-charisma'ed by Obama at every step of this process.
Sad, because I don't think she's stupid, just too weak to trust her own instincts.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:39 AM
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26. She couldn't run on her own, always had to have Bill to back her up. |
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Kinda ironic when you think about it. :nopity:
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:51 PM
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6. Question is: Are WE ready? |
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Sun Feb-17-08 11:57 PM
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8. HRC is as ready for day one as Rumsfield was for the Iraq war |
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Think about it.
both have been around for ever, both are smart and think that they are the sharpest person around on policy. Both are terrible listners to contrarian views. Both stress loyalty in subordinates rather than competence and a free debating atmosphere.
Rumsfield put all of his planning into a quick military victory and nothing into the occupation.
Hillary put all of her eggs into Feb 5th. Afterwards she was flat broke.
Not ready for a full campaign
Not ready with a coherent winning message
Not ready with a plan on what to do with Bill
Not ready on the IWR
Not ready on how to explain your mistake on the IWR
Not ready to be competitive in caucuses.
But the day before she puts her hand on the bible she is going to get it all together and be ready for day one - now that is a fairly tale.
What went wrong = hubris goes before the fall.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 AM
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13. oh boy...'the known knowns.. |
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the unknown knowns, and unknown unknowns'. Seems Campaign 08 has gone from a known, known to an unknown, unknown. I read in a Times Online article that they had no plans to be in the race this long.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:06 AM
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9. She was arrogant from day one... |
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...and now it's biting her in the ass.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:08 AM
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11. Bush ran two good campaigns. How did that work out for his WH performance? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 AM
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12. He did? Finishing close two times, and needing to steal votes or get.... |
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a Supreme Court decision to pull it off? Did you just wake up from a long slumber?
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:15 AM
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15. don't forget he was running against a bunch of superstar opponents in the primary lol |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:41 AM
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28. Why was it even close in 2000 and 2004? Both should have been Dem blowouts |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:12 AM
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14. Hillary is 50 times as competent to be President as Obama, but keep telling yourself different |
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if it makes you feel smart.
You make it sound as if she blew it when the reality is that Obama ran a good campaign and the media hype is pushing him ahead, not Hillary's floundering campaign. You really don't know squat.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:19 AM
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17. Obama the ROCK STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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OMG and people fall for this shit. (disclaimer: NOT A HRC FAN EITHER)
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:27 AM
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They'll wake up the first day of the General Campaign if Obama wins because the media won't be on his side like they are now during the Primaries. Obama's electability and everything else will go right down the tubes starting Day One of the campaign and we'll be looking at 4 years of President McCain. Ugh
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:30 AM
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20. I'm unsure how it will all turn out |
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but this idol-worship crap reminds me of the people who call Washington Journal swooning, "AH SUPPORT BOOSH ONE HUNERD PER CINT". It is extremely disconcerting.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:44 AM
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31. Since Hillary is a loser in a black pantsuit than her opponent |
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must be a scarecrow in a flapping mixed matched pant and coat set himself.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:21 AM
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18. Well, maybe it's time for Hillary to prove she's "50 times as competent"? |
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And not just saying she is?
If she's truly smarter, she'll figure a way out of her royal mess.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:40 AM
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27. Out of 30 states, she's won just 9. |
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So I guess Obama's at least twice as smart.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:18 AM
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16. I never EVER thought of HRC as "inevitable" |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:19 AM by Skittles
EVER...please stop with the revisionist history
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:35 AM
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24. Lots of people did. Just google 'Hillary Clinton inevitable'. |
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She had all the advantages going into the race - huge polls leads, the best possible name recognition, and personal experience of 2 presidential election campaigns. She's probably one of the most electorally experienced candidates to ever run for the nomination. so she should have been able to capitalize on that.
Complaining that Obama has got a free ride is just an excuse. He's outdone her so far when a year ago he was expected to be no more than a good runner-up candidate.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:42 AM
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29. SHE ALWAYS HAD AN UPHILL BATTLE |
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JUST BY BEING FEMALE, let alone the wife of a FORMER PRESIDENT
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:49 AM
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32. Nonsense. Look at her poll numbers for last year. |
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She was so far ahead ahead of the other candidates that the word 'coronation' was often used. She had a fundraising network dating back to 1992. She had massive name recognition - nobody in the country needed to be told who she was. She was the wife of the most successful Democratic president in decades. What more could a candidate ask for?
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:50 AM
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33. have you not figured out yet |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:50 AM by Skittles
that POLLS DON'T MEAN SHIT ???????????? What were McCAIN's poll numbers???????
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:33 AM
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21. I blame private insurance for 1994 |
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Too bad she didn't take real universal health care to the public back then, though.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:35 AM
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23. I don't know where you got this Mrs. Inevitable garbage |
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I don't recall any HRC supporters making that claim.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:38 AM
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25. What a bunch of crap. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:42 AM
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30. Well I guess that means we will all be herded into a hall |
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and the OTHER candidate will just stand there all day long and read us speeches. Seems like that's all he knows how to do.
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