GE Clinton loses PA, OR & ties WA Obama wins CO & NV

[mckeown1128]

WA a must win Blue state:

Obama 55 McCain 38 Dems +17
Hillary 46 McCain 46 Dems = Rethugs
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=1b3063b5-f7d7-4900-8bf3-c2cbc6a0295f

PA a must win purple state:

Obama 49 McCain 39 Dems +10
Hillary 42 McCain 44 Dems -2
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/pennsylvania_2008_presidential_election

Oregon a must win blue state:

Obama 49 McCain 40 Dems +9
Hillary 42 McCain 45 Dems -3
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/oregon/oregon_2008_presidential_election

Colorado a reddish state that is on the DNC target list:

Obama 46 McCain 39 Dems +7
Hillary 35 McCain 49 Dems -14
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/colorado/colorado_2008_presidential_election

Nevada another state on the DNC's target list:

Obama 50 McCain 38 Dems +12
Hillary 40 McCain 49 Dems -9
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/nevada/election_2008_nevada_presidential_election

RCP Average for the GE: (rounded off)

Obama 44 McCain 48 Dems +4
Hillary 45 McCain 47 Dems -2
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html

Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot. Hillary loses PA,OR and possibly WA?!? While Obama wins CO and NV!!! Polls don't mean much... but I would prefer to go with someone who starts with an advantage instead of someone behind by double digits... call me crazy. If anyone has any other polls please let me know. I didn't include polls that had Obama and Hillary on the same side of the results... Ie NH with Obama +13 and Clinton +2(pretty sad comparison huh?)

[goldcanyonaz]

1. Head to head matchups mean nothing at this time. After 1st debate will give us better data.

[mckeown1128]

3. I love how polls mean nothing now...

but we had to hear DAILY for all of 2007 about how Hillary was the "ONE."

[goldcanyonaz]

4. Daily head to head matchups with the Repugs? It really is too soon for any of these to hold weight.

[BlueManDude]

6. Show me a poll that ever had Kerry trailing in PA.

You are in denial about HRC's weakness as a nominee.

[Thrill]

8. You won't find one. Listen to McCain on ABC This Week

He clearly wants to face Hillary. That should scare Democrats

[BlueManDude]

11. It's not even refutable. Given the national mood any Dem should be leading

in the polls. Not to mention it seems Dems are always ahead at this stage (I believe you can find polls where Mondale is beating Reagan) and the gap narrows (and sadly often disappears) as election day rolls around.

She's a good person and I think she'd be a fine president but she's a bad candidate.

[BlueManDude]

5. It'll be too late by then. Hillary will get steamrolled by McCain.

Saying that polls are meaningless is just a dodge on your part. The numbers are what they are. These polls are not outliers. Every poll says the same thing - HRC will lose, and badly in November.

She's a fine person and a fine senator - but a bad choice for the national ticket.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Except she fares worse in every GE poll vs. McCain

A fact that, if it were reversed, you and your fellow Hillbots would be trumpeting from the highest mountain.

[Thrill]

2. McCain clearly thinks Hillary is the best opponent for him

This worries me, if she some how gets the nomination

[mckeown1128]

13. I agree. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

9. k&r....

:kick:

[rocktivity]

10. Get thee behind me, polls!

UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!!!!



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[mckeown1128]

12. lol nt

[Leopolds Ghost]

14. Where's VA and WV stand?

WV used to be a solid Blue state. VA is trending Purple.

If McCain spurns Huckabee I see no reason why Dems should abandon WV.