Who has the "dirtiest" campaign machine?

[Pryderi]

[Pryderi]

1. Hillary's a dirty girl.

[greguganus]

40. Oh my! n/t

[onehandle]

2. McCain does now. He's the Republican nominee.

Any other answer...

:crazy:

[Ravy]

3. Clinton. And I don't consider that a bad thing.

We will be going up against Republicans if she wins, you know.

[backscatter712]

12. Y'know, some of us are sick of that shit.

Obama's actually showing us that it's possible to win a campaign and be successful in politics without acting like a sociopath.

[Ravy]

17. Obama is no saint. Just as many or more attacks,

but more obvious about it so they are more easily debunked.

That is why his machine is not as good.

[ShortnFiery]

24. To Hell with "the machines"! Compared to the filth of HRC operatives, Obama is an Eagle Scout."

:grr: thumbsdown:

[Ravy]

29. Sorry, I don't see it that way. I view his attacks as visibly stretching

the truth to the point of breaking.

Hillary stretches too, but is better at it.

[CoffeeCat]

20. And as Democrats...

...we should aspire to behave better than Karl Rove.

Democrats should lead---not follow the snakes into their Swiftboatting, lying, gossip-mongering
gutter.

[Ravy]

27. You can't say that either campaign is behaving well.

I am simply saying that Clinton's machine is better at it.

Personal opinion, nothing else.

[CoffeeCat]

39. What is Obama doing?

Excuse me, but during the Nevada/South Carolina portion of this
primary--Obama spent most of his time defending himself against the
Clinton machine.

She attacks. He has to respond. He's trying to avoid becoming
like John Kerry.

Obama has never launched an attack against her.

Hillary attacks Obama and he stand up for himself. As he should.

And yes, Clinton's machine is better at it.

Obama *is* behaving well. Clinton is behaving like a desperate attack
dog on crack.

[Ravy]

41. Since you asked...

Certainly the campaign insinuating that the Clinton campaign was racist because "Bill Clinton said that the Obama candidacy was a fairy tale" was blatantly false. As was their assertion that Hillary was slighting MLK when she said that it also took someone in the executive branch (Johnson) to enact civil rights legislation.

There was the Clinton (Senator-Punjab) remark.

There is the attack on her NAFTA support, when he voted to expand it.

I view the IWR rhetoric coming from the Obama campaign as disingenous. I know many DUers take that line, but I will never believe that any Democrat, save Lieberman, wanted to go to war with Iraq.

Many, many more. Maybe you have those threads hidden.

I could list some Clinton ones, too, but I am sure you have some in mind.

[terrya]

4. I'm glad I was sitting down seeing the results of this poll

[aquarius dawning]

5. What dirty tricks has Hillary done in this campaign?

[TexasObserver]

6. A song by Pink Floyd comes to mind.

If you know it, you'll know the line that applies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3gmYAz3uLQ&feature=related

[NC_Nurse]

8. Ha! Good one.

Great song too. :D

[TexasObserver]

9. Pink Floyd songs are worse than Lay's potato chips. Hard to stop at one.

Once I hear one, I need to hear another one.

Comfortably numb is such a great one, and that's what Hillary will feel like when March 4th is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkJNyQfAprY

[NC_Nurse]

11. One of my favorites...

I love Shine on You Crazy Diamond too. :-)

[TexasObserver]

16. It never gets old. I can still remember the first time I saw The Wall. Wow!

Recently I watched it with one of my adult kids, and it was the first time he had seen it, even though he's listened to Pink Floyd at least a decade. The interplay of the animation was awesome.

I'll bet you've seen some of those patients whose hands were like two ballons. Roger Waters could really write a tune. What a unique band and sound.

[NC_Nurse]

32. I've felt that way myself before...

one of the weird effects of a fever. One of my favorite albums. We still listen to them all the time.

[IADEMO2004]

7. MSNBC

[backscatter712]

10. As mind-boggling as the results of the poll are...

I'd have to agree with them.

You don't see McCain and Huckabee trying to game their convention with superdelegates. You don't see them screeching at the top of their lungs about how a state that violated the rules even though they were signed off by the candidates and the states. And even the Republicans candidates aren't coming out with smears against their rivals at the frantic pace you see the Clinton campaign churning them out.

[MonkeyFunk]

14. Obama's not trying to secure superdelegates for himself?

the hypocrisy here is astounding.

[BlueStater]

13. The results of this poll are unbelievable

What a bunch of crybaby wimps we have on this forum.

[Occam Bandage]

15. Isn't Hillary's greatest strength her ability to take it to the mat?

[TexasObserver]

19. Hey, she's starting with Bruce Willis in a new film. CRY HARD.

[TexasObserver]

18. It's admirable you would own up to that, as a representative of Clinton. Good show!

But I think you're being a little hard on yourself. Whiners, yes. Crybabies? Perhaps. Wimps? Not all of you.

Hats off to you for acknowledging what so many Hillary supporters refuse to do.

[BlueStater]

22. I've never supported Hillary Clinton, genius n/t

[TexasObserver]

25. What a crybaby wimp.

I sure hope you've got your pacifier handy.

[BlueStater]

26. You just keep whining about what a meanie that Hillary is

I trust you'll do the same once the GOP get their hands on Mr. "Hope".

[TexasObserver]

30. Sorry, but I have a three post limit for posters who have nothing to say.

Your time is up. Run along. Daddy's working.

[BlueStater]

33. You don't like I what I have to say so you're just going to run off

Get going then. I'm done watching you make a fool out of yourself.

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[MethuenProgressive]

23. Nothing was filthier than Obama's Swiftboating the Clintons on Race in SC.

Nothing filthier that is, unless you don't count the DUbama's glee at the Obama Camp's success in lying about the Clintons.

[ShortnFiery]

28. KKKarl Rove, is that you? Nothing tops Bill Clinton's "Lee Atwater impersonation" leading up to

the SC primaries. However, the Big *Bitter* Dog burned all his bridges with the African American community when he did his "good ole boys" performance ... with two thuggish looking guys in the background leaning against Bill Clinton's Limousine, Ole' Bubba quipped about how "Jesse Jackson did the same thing in SC." That was low. :puke:

[Ravy]

36. The difference was that one was true, the other was not. nt

[Ravy]

35. I have to agree with you, there.

I am biased because it backfired on me and knocked Obama off of his pedestal, but it was very dirty and effective.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. Is that so?

Did those uppity Obama cultists use their hypnotic mind powers to trick all those Clinton surrogates into sticking their feet in their mouths on race issues?

[mtnsnake]

31. Your another pollster who's so insecure that you have to ask this in an anti-Clinton forum

just to reinforce in your head that the Clintons are still hated as much as ever on DU.

How pathetic.

[BlueStater]

34. It's absolutely ridiculous what has happened to this place

I'm about as far from a Hillary supporter as you can get but the attacks here make me feel like I've stumbled onto Freak Republic.

[mtnsnake]

38. Yes, it really is

the attacks here make me feel like I've stumbled onto Freak Republic

I think it's far worse. At least in the Freak Republic, it goes without saying that they would attack some of our finest people. When it happens on what's supposedly a Democratic forum, it's simply too pathetic to even describe.

[Pryderi]

42. I don't know if marching in lockstep is a good thing.

[MadBadger]

37. I voted for Huck...cuz somebody needed to.

His whole negative ad that I'm gonna show the press but not show anybody else was pretty dirty.

[Blue-Jay]

43. He was feeling lonely.

Poor guy. :(