pathansen
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:15 AM
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Hillary more progressive than Obama, according to analysis of sponsored bills |
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See http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=300022Clinton is a radical Democrat according to GovTrack's own analysis of bill sponsorship. Obama is a regular rank-and-file Democrat according to GovTrack's own analysis of bill sponsorship. SOURCE: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:21 AM
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.. I like Hillary. It's the corporate and war stuff that worries me.
But Obama is slightly worse, and he's making an appeal to the Reeps.. think lie dogs fleas.
So I think I'm gonna vote for Hillary in the TX primary.. and I will hold my nose and vote for Obama if he gets the nom.
And I won't like it. Most tiresome.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:23 AM
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2. Since when is the flag-burning amendment |
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called progressive, or changing the name of a post office progressive?
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:23 AM
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well that`s the kiss of death in a general election...i can hear the rethug talking points now.....
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:27 AM
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4. I really don't care how "liberal" she is deemed |
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with things such as Iraq and Kyl-Lieberman out there along with things like flag burning amendments.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:52 AM
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6. Then you don't care about important matters. She has the most liberal record, and plans. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:00 AM
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7. liberals don't vote to invade other countries for no good reason. |
pathansen
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Mon Feb-18-08 03:18 PM
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22. As we all know, Hillary, Edwards, Kerry, Biden, Dobbs were all lied to repeatedly by Bush Adm |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 03:21 PM by pathansen
That is why they all voted for that bill. These are all wonderful Democratic Presidential candidates who were deceived by Bush Adm into thinking Saddam had WMD and had a connection with 9/11. Congress also never voted to allow Bush to go to war in Iraq, only to stop Saddam Hussien.
Now, once and for all, stop lying about and picking on Hillary!
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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13. National Journal would disagree. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:05 AM
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8. 2nd person in the thread who brings up the flag burning |
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amendment. Which HRC opposed.
So many of you Obama supporters either don't know what you're talking about or are willingly spreading disinformation about Clinton's record.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:10 AM
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10. Hillary opposes laws against flag burning? |
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Ummmmm....please, explain this, OK? Clinton, apparently, could not agree less. Along with Sen. Robert Bennett, a Utah Republican, she has introduced a bill that would make flag burning illegal. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/12/hillary_clinton_pandering_on_flag_burning/:shrug:
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:17 AM
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15. Do you know the difference between a law |
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and a constitutional amendment? She supported one in order to stave off an amendment.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:25 AM
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...no, I have NO clue as to the difference. I only have a BA with highest honors in political science, taught HS government and practiced law for a ton of years. Hey, fill me in....OK...I am sure your creds are superior to mine. And...while at it...look at the call of my question, OK? Please point out where I said AMENDMENT? My questions was in regard to any legislation against flag burning.
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So....did she or did she NOT support legislation to ban flag burning? It is a simple question, your excuse for her conduct notwithstanding! She either agrees with prohibiting it or she does NOT agree. Sponsoring a law with which one does NOT agree is absolute unwarranted stupidity. If she opposes laws which prohibit flag burning, then IMO she needed to stand up and say so and not propose something which does the exact opposite of what she supposedly supports. Is there something you do not understand about this...like the term HONESTY?
Sheesh!
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:33 AM
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18. The threads I reference SPECIFICALLY mention the |
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FLAG BURNING AMENDMENT.
Wasn't it Obama who told me that words matter?
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:35 AM
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19. Then why did you intentionally distort |
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what was said?
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and chalked it up to ignorance, rather than malice. I won't make that mistake again.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:48 AM
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....what distortion? The INFERENCE was the Hillary opposed laws which banned flag burning. So I wished a clarification as to her stand on the issue over all.
What? Now no one is to question what the queen..er...Hillary has done in the past?
Do I want a candidate who votes for legislation he/she does not support? Hell, no! If someone opposes something, then they need to stand up and be heard. If you are correct and she did vote for the law in order to stave off the amendment, that is truly a position by an elected official of which I do not approve.
What is next? To fend off an anti-abortion bill which bans ALL abortions, the life of the mother be damned, it is then OK to not merely support but introduce a bill which does interfere in the choices a woman makes with her health care provider only 85% of the time and not 100% of the time?
When we start doing BS like this, where exactly do we draw the line? Her conduct was unacceptable. One should NOT compromise his/her principles. PERIOD.
JMHO
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:35 AM
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:35 AM by paulk
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Tue Feb-19-08 08:31 AM
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23. Amendments don't become law? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:08 AM
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9. Kyl-Lieberman...another no-vote by Obama. |
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C.ome H.elp A. N.o-voter G.et E.lected
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:52 AM
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5. What we've always known, but others choose to ignore. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:12 AM
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11. Its the OBAMA BUBBLE---AKA--THE BUSH BUBBLE |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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12. Thank you---nice to see this article about Hillary |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:15 AM
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14. yeah, duh. I was wondering when someone would wake up to this n/t |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:18 AM
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16. I'm not surprised at all |
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It helps explain why Republicans like Morning Joe and the rest of the Corporate media are so anxious to have Hillary stopped right in her tracks. She is their worst nightmare.
Thanks for posting.
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Tue Feb-19-08 08:42 AM
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24. People don't want to hear the truth |
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