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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:03 AM
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Today's "Mock Outrage" topic - Obama stole his speeches!!!
Having been turned off by all the false hatred here, I've gotten to only checking this site a few times a week. Not surprisingly, when I come today, there is yet another "false outrage" topic dominating the boards: Obama has PLAGIARIZED his speeches!!!

OMG!!! Say it ain't so! This is as big an outrage as after Obama's Iowa win, when EVERY candidate suddenly became the candidate of Change!!!

Seriously folks, does anyone care about this? The false outrage threads on both sides are fairly absurd. Just thought you should know...
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:06 AM
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1. It will be all over DU for today. It's really stupid but oh well, I don't think it's a big story
otherwise. It may get a segment but it's not OMG THIS WILL DERAIL HIM!!!! like people on here will try and make it.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:07 AM
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2. Obama's supposed to be about a new kind of politics so to find out that his words are just recycled
kind of deflates that balloon.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:12 AM
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8. Um, yeah...OK...people will be leaving in droves now...
Seriously, if you think the fact that someone else has said uplifting, hope-filled words in the recent past means Obama's legitimacy is now in question, you really are believing the hype just a bit too much.

Be honest - you know this is as much of a non-story as everyone else. You're just enjoying the mock outrage of it all. Its really fun to stick it to the opposition for something as absurd as this, especially when Obama supporters have done the same to Hillary time and time again, right?

Again, a pox on both your houses - this stuff is just as silly regardless which side expresses the outrage.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:21 AM
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18. Well all you have to do is look at Deval Patrick's "success" to have an idea how things will turn
out. I believe his approval rating is currently below 50%.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:27 AM
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23. And this means what exactly? That because they are both...
black men who use similar inspirational sounding speeches that they are the same person? Personally, I don't have trouble telling the two people apart...

But again, we both know this is as much of a non-story as all the rest of these one-day wonders on DU from both sides.

I'm just at a loss in understanding why so many here enjoy this crap...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:30 AM
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24. yeah, this weekend you guys were all "outraged" because he
said something about hillary "feeling down", and that was twisted into him somehow inferring that she was PMS'ing? You guys really have run the gambit. This won't take Obama down, simply because not enough people in the M$M like her. Just a fact. But nice try.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:59 PM
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26. So you're proud that the MSM is biased? Well as long as it helps Obama, right? The MSM certainly
didn't like Gore or Kerry either, but I think that says more about the MSM than them.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:08 AM
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3. Swiftboat DUers For Truth?
It's all a bunch of half-truth nonsense. Sorry but this crap is not going to work anymore.

It's a turn-off.

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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:08 AM
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4. And so you clutter up the board even more with it? Think people
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:09 AM
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5. Yeah--like the Chelsea crap the other day from the many of the Obamafolks
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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9. EXACTLY!!! Both are totally absurd! nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:14 AM
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13. I need to evaluation the plagerism material a bit more. Lots of material to
read--

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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:23 AM
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19. Just read it quick, as the story will disapear by tomorrow...
Not to worry though, I'm sure another mock outrage from one of the candidates will emerge by then...
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:23 AM
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20. you need to evaluation ?????
oh there is a something worth waiting for...NOT!

To many big words, you are in over your head already!


I need to evaluation the plagerism material a bit more. Lots of material to
Posted by rodeodance

read--
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:11 AM
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6. its hard to keep up, maybe he was a drug dealer, only blacks will vote for him, he's a cult
his rhetoric is empty, and now he's a plaigarist.


The sad thing is, its just like with Rove and the Delay congress: a meme goes out and everyone must repeat it in lockstep, ad nauseum, until the next approved meme comes out.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:12 AM
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7. Yes, "oh the false outrage" is just smarmy ... it's filth and trumped up.
Let's ask Senator Joe Biden what he thinks of trumped-up plagiarism charges and subsequent witch hunts?

We've cut through to the filthy BUNK before with Joe Biden - This dog won't hunt. :thumbsdown:
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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10. Gee...
...false outrage. Where have I seen that before...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/

or maybe the "Kerry thinks the troops are dumb" outrage...

or the "hired mob in Florida to stop the recount" outrage...

or the "Gore is trying to steal the election" outrage...

or the "Max Cleland loves Ossama and Saddam" outrage...

or the "ZOMG More Terror" Alerts outrage...

you get the idea...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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11. We've seen it before. In the end Hillary still loses.
Funny pattern.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:15 AM
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14. Those who blame Hillary should be ashamed of themselves.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:19 AM
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17. Start with ABC
They're saying it's coming from her.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:16 AM
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15. shows just how much they need a Mommy to tell them what to do n/t
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:13 AM
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12. at least it is identified in the thread title - So I know not to bother even opening
them.

I have no idea what it is about and I plan to keep that way.


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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:16 AM
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16. Hillary supporters need something to reach for
Let them have their fun.lol
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:24 AM
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21. its called plagiarism..and that is a serious matter,..to every teacher in this country!
and to every educational institution in this nation and others...


you can try to poo poo Obama's plagiarism..but it won't wash with me..it is deception..clear and simple..it is stealing..plain and simple..and we have proof positive of how plagiarism has killed...



and it is something we all should be wary of since Colin Powell helped take us to war based on Plagarism.

I take plagiarism very seriously ..so much so that i have kept this article in my files ever since...yes Colin Powell plagiarised a College guys dissertation paper to help take us into war...Plagiarism is a serious matter! 4000 dead soldiers and over 1million dead Iraqi's can attest to that.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4601552-103690,00.html


Downing St admits blunder on Iraq dossier
Plagiarism row casts shadow over No 10's case against Saddam


Michael White, Ewen MacAskill and Richard Norton-Taylor
Saturday February 8, 2003

Guardian

Downing Street yesterday apologised for its failure to acknowledge that much of its latest dossier on Iraq was lifted from academic sources, as the affair threatened to further undermine confidence in the government's case for disarming Saddam Hussein.
MPs and anti-war groups were quick to protest that other features of Whitehall's information campaign are suspect at a time when MI6 and other intelligence agencies are privately complaining at the way No 10 has been over-egging intelligence material on Iraq.

It emerged yesterday that the dossier issued last week - later found to include a plagiarised section written by an American PhD student - was compiled by mid-level officials in Alastair Campbell's Downing Street communications department with only cursory approval from intelligence or even Foreign Office sources.

Though it now appears to have been a journalistic cut and paste job rather than high-grade intelligence analysis, the dossier ended up being cited approvingly on worldwide TV by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, when he addressed the UN security council on Wednesday.




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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4600667-103550,00.html

UK war dossier a sham, say experts
British 'intelligence' lifted from academic articles

Michael White and Brian Whitaker
Friday February 7, 2003


Guardian

Downing Street was last night plunged into acute international embarrassment after it emerged that large parts of the British government's latest dossier on Iraq - allegedly based on "intelligence material" - were taken from published academic articles, some of them several years old.
Amid charges of "scandalous" plagiarism on the night when Tony Blair attempted to rally support for the US-led campaign against Saddam Hussein, Whitehall's dismay was compounded by the knowledge that the disputed document was singled out for praise by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, in his speech to the UN security council on Wednesday.

Citing the British dossier, entitled Iraq - its infrastructure of concealment, deception and intimidation in front of a worldwide television audience Mr Powell said: "I would call my colleagues' attention to the fine paper that the United Kingdom distributed... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities."
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:26 AM
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22. but, but...Obama's supporters CONTROL this forum!!!
it seems like there are just as much, if not more, anti-obama threads in gd:P as anti-hillary.
:eyes:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:50 AM
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25. hey DU! Let's get together and help out John McCain
because we so want another bushler as president.
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