Hillaryhacks have nothing, resort to drumming up false Plagiarism charges

[berni_mccoy]

Suddenly, this morning, DU was flooded with false stories of Obama plagiarism. I counted no fewer than 15 new threads by these Hillaryhacks that had nothing to offer but a baseless claim. Where did this come from all of the sudden? And it was as if every Hillaryhack started posting and reposting this fake story. Like Rove coordinating the Republican politician talking-points with Fox News, the Hillaryhacks were out in collective force filling GDP with unsubstantiated stories of Obama steeling his speeches. Perhaps it's the desperation they feel. Perhaps is Hillary's floundering campaign. The bottom line is they have nothing else. Nothing postiive. Nothing constructive. All they have are baseless Rovian tactics to save their candidate from the inevitable end: a failed campaign poorly led and poorly managed by a candidate who has less than 9 years of experience as an elected official even though that's the sole strength she is touting against Obama's 12 years. These Hillaryhacks spread divisive, bile-filled posts with no evidence to back up libel-level charges like Plagiarism. And when confronted with the truth (see: "OMG. There's no there there": http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4640598) they still continue to spread the baseless charges that have no substance. But that is what they've been sold on: a drink called Hillaryjuice that has no calories or substance. It only tastes good because its full of spite and a touch of kurt. However, like all those calorie-free drinks, it's simply, nothing more than plain old water.

[TeamJordan23]

1. Expect Clinton camp to get very desperate after losing Wisconson. nm

[BigDDem]

2. All Hillary's fault...of course

Go Mr. Authenticity!!

[berni_mccoy]

4. Who is faulting her? I'm faulting her hacks that keep posting here.

[mtnsnake]

3. When Hillary is right on the money, it's all false, but when Obama does anything, it's all fine. lol

[maddiejoan]

5. What do you have that's positive about Obama?

I've not seen it --except for the messages of Hope and Change that are lifted by Axelrod from his work with Deval Patrick back in '06.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazine/01axelrod.t.html?ei=5124&en=c8e20f4144cbf908&ex=1332993600&partner=newsvine&exprod=newsvine&pagewanted=all

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Axelrod says that his model for the Obama campaign came last year when Deval Patrick ran for governor of Massachusetts. There are many ways in which Patrick’s run and Obama’s are similar: the optimism, the constant presence of the candidate’s biography, the combination of a crusading message of reform with the candidate’s natural pragmatism, the insistence that normal political categories did not apply, even the same, unofficial slogan, shouted from the crowds — “Yes. We. Can!” But most essential is the way in which both of these campaigns came to use the symbolism that accompanies their candidates’ race, not by apologizing for it or ignoring it but by embracing the constant attention paid to the historic nature of the candidacy itself. The Democratic media consultant David Eichenbaum, whose candidate, Chris Gabrieli, lost to Patrick and Axelrod in Massachusetts, told me: “What they were able to do in the Patrick campaign was similar to what they’ve been able to do with Obama. The campaign managed to energize the grass roots, but there was a sense of idealism and hope and being able to break that historic barrier that was very unifying and reached out beyond liberals or the base. It became a movement that took on a life of its own.”
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[Metric System]

6. Um, it came from ABC News, Politico and other sites. n/t

[xultar]

7. They are all Hillary hacks, unless they are reporting something postive about Obama.

[berni_mccoy]

13. as a baseless OPINION piece, which was so hungrily consumed by the Hillaryhacks here

and then vomited all over this board.

[RamboLiberal]

8. Jake Tapper of ABC started this crap because

oh horrors Duval Patrick and Obama who both have Axelrod used the theme that "I Have a Dream", "We Hold these truths to be self-evident" and "All we have to fear is fear itself" were not just "words".

Guess now Obama can't quote the great orators of American history.

Last week Tapper was all over the "cult" thing.

[durrrty libby]

9. "Hillaryhacks"? Shove it BO Sniffer

Get off the Hopium. It kills brain cells

[ginnyinWI]

10. If it's Monday, it's a new smear attack on Obama.

And a new slogan for the Hillary camp. Then it fails and they try a new incarnation the next Monday.
:argh:

[soundguy]

12. Obama Supporters Are a Little Testy I See

I would be too because your guy is about to go down in flames and you know it. Don't blame yourselves, I have heard that hopium can have some very powerful side effects. We will be here for you, and help you through your recovery.

[berni_mccoy]

14. Could this be durrrty libby's sock puppet?

[durrrty libby]

18. Disagreeing with the cult = sock puppet?

[ginnyinWI]

16. no help needed, thanks.

Obama's going to win Wisconsin tomorrow, and will go on to win the nomination. If we are testy it's just that we are running out of patience with these petty little attacks.

[sniffa]

11. I agree with your premise

but may I suggest changing the attack parts?

[RamboLiberal]

15. Hillary Hacks here and Drudge only ones featuring this

so far this morning. They should be so proud running with Drudge! It's even dropped off ABC's site.

You know they are so pissing me off lately along with the crap the Clinton campaign is pulling even if Hillary were to sweep the remaining big primaries I may decide not to vote for her in the GE. It may be just the SCOTUS that may get me to hold my nose and vote for her if by some miracle or skullduggery she won the nom. And right now I'm in the mood to say screw it.

Keep it up Hillary Hacks and all you'll have is an empty victory and McCain taking the oath in January.

[ginnyinWI]

17. me too.

I've gone from being "okay" about voting for her anyway, to feeling like I really, really don't want to vote for someone whose behavior and ethics I'm ashamed of. I was proud to vote for Kerry, and I'd be proud to vote for Obama. Don't want to compromise on that point any more!

[durrrty libby]

19. "Hillary Hacks "? Hey, BO Sniffer Hopium will leave you brainless

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

20. Don't call them Hillaryhacks

that's childish.

[berni_mccoy]

23. I'm too damn tired of being called a "Cultist" "Obamamaniac", "Obamanut", etc, etc.

And when they drum up completely FALSE charges, they have it coming to them.

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

26. I'm tired of it too but that's what ignore is for

It really, truly works wonders. Liberal use of ignore will make your DU experience much more pleasant.

[durrrty libby]

27. Hey BM. Calling someone a "sock puppet" is a bannable offense.

BTW...love your initials. Perfectly describes your watery mouth

[berni_mccoy]

30. First. I didn't call you a sock puppet. Second. Your bile-filled response shows character

Third. Good bye.

[Enrique]

21. don't blame us

we weren't the ones who plagiarized. Blame your guy.

[berni_mccoy]

22. Did you read the article that refutes the charge. ABC has even taken the source article

down because it's BOGUS. But go ahead and keep drinking that Hillaryjuice.

[durrrty libby]

28. Stealing Hillary's economic plan is even more offensive

He's an equally opportunity offender.

[DemGa]

24. You should expect it -- it is deserved

Obama has freely capitalized on the effects of right-wing attacks against Hillary -- that includes MANY false accusations. Is Obama guilty? Perhaps. But by his own standard, he deserves any consequences of the negative perception thusly derived.

[berni_mccoy]

25. First. He doesn't "deserve" a false, libel charge. Second. That's changing the topic.

[DemGa]

31. Obama deserves it by his OWN standard; not mine

The "negative" perception of Hillary that Republicans have is the result of MANY false accusations. But Obama says this is "divisive" and "polarizing."

Yes, he most certainly brings it on himself. And this is true regardless of the veracity of the charge.

[berni_mccoy]

32. Clinton had a NEGATIVE PERCEPTION among Republicans LOOOOONG Before Obama.

So give it up already.

Clinton is destroying herself when she tries to attack Obama. She has run a miserable failure of a campaign.

[DemGa]

33. Good lord why can you not see this fact?

I'm not saying Obama created that perception. I'm saying Obama co-opted and profited from the right-wing attacks on Hillary by counting them against her -- though they were filled with false accusations.

This is why the electorate cannot see Obama is a Fraud -- yet. It is a bit complex -- over the common mode of thought.

[Unbowed]

29. I notice it's the same old cast of characters that post negative Obama threads.

There's far fewer of them than Obama supporters (just look at that recent DU straw poll that had Obama leading Clinton 3 to 1) but they are persistent and ALWAYS negative.

Not all HRC supporters are like this, but there are a few who are using Republican talking points all too cheerfully. Who do they think they are fooling? Their attacks are lame. Nobody is falling for it. Why do they bother? It has been suggested in a previous thread that we are infiltrated with people who have been paid to post here. Could this be true? If so, what could be the motive? Will anyone choose to support Hillary because there are a few persistent hate-mongers among us? I seriously doubt it. So, what IS the motive?

Could there possibly be a movement afoot to have us all at each other's throats.

If so, let's not add fuel to the fire. I support Obama but I'll support our Democratic nominee. Period. I'll also not spend time whining about candidates who are either not running or no longer in the race. We have a nasty enemy to confront and I'll take any one of our Dems over the likes of McCain.

I prefer Obama but that doesn't mean I hate Hillary Clinton. That's preposterous. That's right-wing thinking. They are the party of hate. We need to remember that. I don't agree with some things the Clintons have done, but does that mean they are not good Democrats. Not at all. If I don't agree with something Obama has said or done, does that mean I'll stop supporting him? Nope. We will never agree with any candidate 100%. It's about choosing based on which candidate we believe in and agree with most of the time. Nobody's perfect. Not John Edwards, not Al Gore, not John Kerry, not Bill Clinton, not Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Not a one of them walks on water and if there ever was a candidate that did, I'd sit home because he or she wouldn't need my vote.

We don't want to continue to be the party that bites off our nose to spite our face. The opposition wants that. It's how they win. Divide and conquer.

It's hard to resist fighting back, but there is another way to fight back. Ignore offensive threads. Just don't jump in and get into a pissing contest. And always use facts instead of talking points when you criticize anyone. Discuss issues as issues and back up what you say with links to valid sources. Swiftboating is not our way. Turn about isn't always fair play because it really means we become like them.