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Mon Feb-18-08 12:10 PM
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Hillary has stolen words AND policy |
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Here are a couple of places Clinton freely borrowed rhetoric from Obama… Clinton Stole The Phrase “Fired Up And Ready To Go” From Obama. “We are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa.” In Davenport, Iowa, those words escaped the barriers of a tired Hillary Clinton’s teeth. Without irony. That phrase is associated with Barack Obama. Obama borrows it from a woman in South Carolina who helped remind him what was important in life. It’s the signature, in fact, of Obama’s close.
Clinton Stole Rhetoric From Obama And Said She Wanted “Bring Our Country Together” And How She’s Not Running For President Of The Sates That Voted For Democrats. “One other thing about those Clinton events yesterday: The woman is not at all bashful about stealing from her rivals. Between the two events, I counted six rhetorical turns I’ve heard other candidates employ: She talked about goals ‘I hope will bring our country together,’ a la Barack Obama. In response to a question about excessive partisanship, she talked about how she’s not running to be president of the states that voted for Democrats, she’s running to be president of the United States. This closely resembles Obama’s ‘I don’t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the President of the United States of America.’”
Clinton, Stealing Obama’s Line, “Yes, We Can” Said That Obama Was The “No We Can’t” Candidate And Said In Contrast, “Yes We Can.” Stealing a line, Clinton casts Obama as the “no we can’t” candidate, and herself as saying “yes, we can.” Obama is the “Yes We Can” candidate of the 2008 presidential race, an Elvis-like presence riding a wave of popular enthusiasm unseen in U.S. politics in many years. Democratic strategist Liz Chadderdon said Obama is sweeping Americans off their feet.”It’s this incredibly moving speech about how it’s time for Americans to turn inward and fix America’s problems. You listen to it and you say ‘Yes.’ Not that what’s coming out of her mouth isn’t solid, it just doesn’t have the same emotional connection that we’re feeling with him,” she said
10/30/07: Clinton Said “We’ve Got To Turn The Page On George Bush And Dick Cheney.” Clinton, speaking about her electability said “In a perverse way, I think that the Republicans and their constant obsession with me demonstrate clearly that they obviously think that I am communicating effectively about what I will do as president. I am trying to do that because it matters greatly. We’ve got to turn the page on George Bush and Dick Cheney. In fact, we have to throw the whole book away.”
Ø 5/2/07: Obama Gave “Turn the Page”-Themed Speech To The California Democratic Convention. Speaking to the California Democratic Convention, Obama said, “I’m running for President because the time for the can’t-do, won’t-do, won’t-even-try style of politics is over. It’s time to turn the page…It’s what I learned as a state Senator in Illinois. That you can turn the page on old debates; that it’s possible to compromise so long as you as you never compromise your principles; and that so long as we’re willing to listen to each other, we can assume the best in people instead of the worst…Democrats of California, it’s time to turn the page…It’s time to turn the page on education…It’s time to turn the page on energy…But most of all, we have to turn the page on this disaster in Iraq…We will bring our troops home. It’s time to turn the page…California, if you want a new kind of politics, it’s time to turn the page. If you want an end to the old divisions, and the stale debates, and the score-keeping and the name-calling, it’s time to turn the page…If you want health care for every American and a world-class education for all our children; if you want energy independence and an end to this war in Iraq; if you believe America is still that last, best hope of Earth, then it’s time to turn the page…It’s time to turn the page for hope. It’s time to turn the page for justice. It is time to turn the page and write the next chapter in the great American story. Let’s begin the work. Let’s do this together. Let’s turn that page.”
http://thepage.time.com/obama-release-on-clintons-languge/
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:16 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:17 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:17 PM
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3. Clinton was making policy when Obama was filling out law school applications. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:18 PM
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4. In the governor's mansion? |
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She was making dinner policy. FIRED UP FOR THE LADY!~~
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:19 PM
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5. Actually, that was Bill. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:20 PM
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6. Actually, not all policy is made in Executive Mansions. |
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Look up her record. Oh, wait, I'm sure you've done that already.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:22 PM
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8. You mean like her claim about |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:27 PM
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10. You're right. What kind of policy was she making at Walmart? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:32 PM
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14. Selective memory is disingenuous. |
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"When Bill was elected Governor of Arkansas, Hillary continued to advocate for children, leading a task force to improve education in Arkansas through higher standards for schools and serving on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, helping them expand and improve their services. She also served on national boards for the Children's Defense Fund, the Child Care Action Campaign, and the Children's Television Workshop."
I believe at the time Obama was writing an essay on why he wanted to be a lawyer.
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:54 PM
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17. All part time, while working full time as a corporate lawyer for |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 12:55 PM by NCevilDUer
Rose Law Firm, working for the best interests of corporations which were fighting unionization, equal pay for women, etc, most particularly for WalMart.
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It's ok, though. Everybody needs a hobby.
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:00 PM
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18. Obama's employer while he was writing his admission essays. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:05 PM
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19. 2 years with IBC before going on to Harvard Law. |
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16 years with Rose Law Firm, AFTER completing school.
Yeah. They are both mired in corporatist culture.
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Mon Feb-18-08 01:10 PM
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20. Yes they are. I'm glad you get it. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:25 PM
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9. What planet do you people come from? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:33 PM
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15. "you people"? Elucidate. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 04:03 PM
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21. The ones who keep pushing this imaginary record of Clinton's |
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Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 04:03 PM by shadowknows69
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:21 PM
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7. "fired up and ready to go" has been around long before the new messiah started using it nt |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:31 PM
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13. Wasn't "Yes we can" or "Si, Si Pueda" from the farmworkers union? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:29 PM
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11. Obama invented "fired up & ready to go" & "yes we can"? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:30 PM
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12. LOL there is no end to the silliness around here |
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There should be mandatory history, current events and IQ tests before people are allowed to vote. :crazy: :dunce:
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Mon Feb-18-08 12:33 PM
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16. she stole "All hat, no cattle" from John Kerry |
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I know he didn't originate the phrase, but he used it against Bush in Fall 2004.
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