Y'all just go ahead and keep posting right-wing shit about the Clintons' marriage.

[Maddy McCall]

Michelle and Barack haven't been on the national stage long enough for the Republicans to target their marriage yet. They have not been exposed to the scrutiny of a multi-million-dollar right-wing investigation the likes of the one the Clintons withstood.

If Obama gets the nomination, you can bet that the same kind of smear machine that went to work against Hillary and Bill will invest its dollars and time in finding the dirt on Barack and Michelle.

At that moment, will you expect us Hillary supporters to stand with you in calling those attacks against the Obamas disgusting and unfair, after you used the same kind of despicable attacks against OUR candidate and her husband?

Your day is coming. No one goes through the fire and comes out unburned.

[babylonsister]

1. Our day is here; we don't have to wait for no stinkin' m$m;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4641977

[VotesForWomen]

114. heh. we'll see. nt

[CorpGovActivist]

133. .

[still_one]

2. I am an Obama supporting, and Obama's OR Clinton's marrage have nothing to do with US /nt

[rodeodance]

89. Thank you

[still_one]

116. Nothing to thank me for, all of us should be focusing on real issues

whoever our candidate is, and back whoever the eventual nominee is, because no matter what nonesense is spewed on these boards against Clinton or Barrack, OUR CANDIDATES ARE STILL SUPERIOR TO THE REPUBLICANS

[joeybee12]

3. Yup, BO is untouchable...anything against Hilary is fair game...

...it's scary that these kool-aid drinkers think they are being reasonable when they post shit.

[IndianaGreen]

4. An open marriage if there ever was one

Hillary needed the Clinton name to further her own political ambitions. What a slap to the millions of women that have achieved great things on their own without having to depend on hubby.

[Maddy McCall]

5. You know nothing about the Obama marriage yet.

Nothing.

And Hillary married who she wanted to marry, regardless of why YOU think she married Bill. They are still together, in spite of the shit hurled at them. Neither you nor I know why they married or why they stayed together in the face of the shit they went through together.

Empowerment means making one's own decisions. That's what Hillary did.

[NMDemDist2]

36. their love is obvious

you can see the pride and love when they look at each other even after all these years

name me a marriage of that length that hasn't had some trouble, but most marriages don't have to play it out on a global stage....

[Maddy McCall]

63. And they've not experienced the right-wing's smear machine yet, either.

Pride and love are great...and easy when not contested.

Your last sentence is my point exactly. Once it becomes clear, should they receive the nomination, that he will be the Democratic nominee, the right will go to work against them--just like they did with the Clintons.

For DUers to continuously use the right's Clinton dirt at this website is disgusting.

[NMDemDist2]

87. LOL I was talking about the Clintons

I've never watched the Obamas together that closely

[Maddy McCall]

95. And....

I should know you better than that.

I'm sorry. :hug:

[NMDemDist2]

101. I should have been clearer

you're always OK in my book Maddy

:pals:

[Window]

75. Obama and Michelle are two extremely intelligent adults.

Michelle and Obama have given his run for the presidency a lot of thought -- in fact, she wasn't crazy about it in the beginning.

They are aware of the Monica thingy. Does anyone think they would subject themselves to all the scrutiny that's bound to come down on them --if Obama secures the nomination -- if he/she had something like that to hide?

Just maybe, God Forbid, they have a truly happy, loving marriage with nothing to hide. Damn!!

And let them bring it on, if the way his campaign is run is any indication, they will be okay.


Peace:thumbsup:

[NMDemDist2]

88. I was talking about the Clintons

:shrug:

[Window]

92. My bad...thought you were talking about Obama & Michelle.

n/t

[Name removed]

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[MonkeyFunk]

76. sexist much?

[Jamastiene]

119. You go, girl.

Tell it like it is. :thumbsup:

[SoFlaJet]

6. YOUCH

and kind of ironic isn't it?

[Maddy McCall]

7. What's the irony?

Enlighten me.

[SoFlaJet]

25. I'd say it's ironic

that all these pro-Clinton feminists, a lot of whom are self-made women are supporting a candidate who is running on her cheating husband's coattails

[Maddy McCall]

27. Your views of feminism and marriage are warped.

You only see Hillary through the lens of her husband. You won't acknowledge her many accomplishments.

It is YOU who is disturbingly sexist--feminists obviously piss you off.

[SoFlaJet]

37. and you have no idea what you're talking about

me a sexist? Ask my wife of 25 years and my two beautiful daughters and my granddaughter what they think...

[Maddy McCall]

42. I don't care what your wife and kids think about you.

What you posted here IS sexist and disturbing. Unlike your perverted fascination with the Clinton's private life, I really couldn't care less about yours.

[Name removed]

49. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[susankh4]

122. I'd rather ask Hillary's daughter....

about what it was like growing up in a family that is bashed day in and day out. And how did she turn out to be such a fine young woman?

The Clintons have done something right there. And... if you think you had a part in how your kids turned out (as I do think I did with mine) then you should at least recognize that.

[Maddy McCall]

17. It appears that Mr. Youch is a hit-and-runner.

[joeybee12]

9. What offensive, repuke crap...

...they met when they were young...how the fuck do you know they weren't actually in love?

[donheld]

18. It's their marriage. It's none of anybodies fucking business! n/t

[Horse with no Name]

56. Yeah that is precisely why she was lambasted when she went back to

Hillary RODHAM Clinton. :sarcasm:
Can't have those fucking women getting too uppity using 2 last names now, can we?

[Mags]

79. So say the BO followers and Republicans.

[rodeodance]

85. stop judging other's marriages.

[NMDemDist2]

103. ROFL "the Clinton name"

:rofl:

yeah, let's latch on to a dude with a single mother from a Podunk town in a rural state. Forget all the guys she had the choice of at Wellesley or the many 'up and comers' she met working with the House subcommittee on Impeachment.

oh yeah, marrying a man without a dime to his name and moving to Arkansas, what a great career move!!!!


:rofl:

[KitchenWitch]

128. Precisely what I was thinking.

Back in the day...the Clinton name meant less than nothing.

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

117. Bullshit

And every man in political office got there without one iota of assistance from their wife. Lay another piece of misogynist crap on us, will you?

[displacedtexan]

8. Michelle Obama should thank Hillary Clinton for surviving the wingnuts...

...in '92 who screamed, "she works for a living!"

For example:

Mr. Clinton turned every question he received this afternoon into an opportunity to defend his wife against the attacks that have been directed at her by Mr. Buchanan and others.

Mr. Buchanan, the former conservative commentator who unsuccessfully challenged Mr. Bush for the Republican nomination in the early primaries, said in a convention speech Monday night that Mrs. Clinton represented "radical feminism."

Barbara Bush, in an interview on Tuesday, said she understood that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton have planned a "co-Presidency," a charge Mr. Clinton insisted he has never even mentioned.

"They know this is a load of bull," Mr. Clinton said, who added that both President and Mrs. Bush have praised Mrs. Clinton's work on behalf of children's issues. "But they've given themselves over to the right-wing extremists in their party." he said. "And they don't have a record or a vision, so they're going to run whatever they can. And I think American people are really going to react against it.

"It shows the panic and the lack of vision and commitment and real character in the whole Republican campaign."

[rodeodance]

10. I saw that post--Obamasupporters making judgements--on a marriage that is NONE of

their business!--then bringing in capital blue site.

[GoldieAZ49]

11. The Clintons are responsible for their own problems

They knew the dirt before they ran in 92, they have been covering for Bill forever.

Defend it if you want, I will not. Nor will I defend anyone else's philandering.

Look at all the dirt that came out about other Presidents marriages. Not all have the problem Bill has.

[Maddy McCall]

15. And you don't know what's to come with the Obamas.

EVERY marriage has its problems. NO marriage is perfect. Other presidents' private lives have had their share of issues--what would the right have done to FDR and Eleanor, if they had run today? Would you attack FDR for his affairs--or Eleanor for her lesbian relationships, just because the right tells you to?

The right's machine will dig, smear, distort, and expose every little thing they can find on the Obamas. At that moment, maybe some of y'all will reflect on the shit you hurled at the Clintons and see.

[GoldieAZ49]

28. YOU are the one that started the thread about the shit in the Clintons marriage

not the RW, not an Obama supporter, YOU.

So why do you want to continue bringing it up?

Keep it Top of Mind?

[Maddy McCall]

33. Oh bullshit. It's all over this forum.

[GoldieAZ49]

48. It is now, thanks to you

You have no idea what the Obama marriage is all about.

Unless you are suggesting the Clinton campaign is about to launch yet another smear tactic.

Thanks for the warning, seeing as nothing else has worked, I am not surprised.

And under the guise of outrage and defense of the Clintons...thinly veiled indeed.

[Maddy McCall]

54. YOU have no idea what the Obama marriage is about...

but you will when the right decides to focus on it. It will be as exposed, smeared, and distorted by the right as the Clintons' has been.

When that day comes, I'm sure that there'll be much wailing and gnashing...and I'll stand with Obama supporters--even the ones who posted the right's research on the Clintons here--to denounce the same tactics being used against the Obamas.

[apocalypsehow]

100. Indeed, it is an old Nixonian tactic. Remember when Richard Nixon would bring some filthy lie or

dirt about his political opponents up by pretending not to? He'd solemnly intone "some people say I should talk about (insert whatever dirt was going around about his opponent here), but I'm not going to." This OP is a simply a version of that, and it scarcely surprises me anymore to see the Clinton supporters indulge in such deplorable tactics. Sadly, it's all they've got left now that the coronation has been canceled.

[Omega3]

52. you sound like a fucking disgusting Republican, do you know that?

[GoldieAZ49]

104. advocating personal responsibility is republican trait?

How sad is that?

How about : don't do the crime if you can't do the time?

or

you reap what you sow

or

what goes around comes around

or

instant karma's gonna getcha

you make me laugh, thanks for that!

[Alamom]

12. k&r

[enid602]

13. Pick

And yet, no one in the MSM would even DARE bringing up Plickles' running over her prom date. NEVER.

[peaches2003]

74. Nor is a word said by the MSM about

Pickles moving into the Mayflower Hotel as reported by one tabloid (whose record is pretty darn good), either to see if it was true or not. And, speaking of Pickles, where has she been over the last year or so. Barely seen and on no trips with the Chimp until this one to Africa. You can be sure if it was a Dem First Lady they would be all over her obvious disappearance.

[enid602]

94. fodder

Oh yes; that Zanax look, stories of selling grass in college, those wayward daughters. . . perfect media fodder if you're married to a Dem. And don't get me started on those Cheney girls.

[donheld]

14. This whole situation is WAY out of hand

I'm really saddened it's become this bad.

[LostinVA]

108. I agree -- It's very upsetting

[MethuenProgressive]

16. Many on DU are victims of the Right Wing Propaganda machine.

The rest of us don't hate the Clintons.

[IndianaGreen]

22. It was a Friend of Bill that said that Bill was still engaged in reckless personal behaviour

so there!

[Maddy McCall]

24. And that totally intrigues you. Just wait until that same machine goes to work on Obama.

Just wait until his "friends" start talking.

The Obama marriage hasn't been scrutinized like the Clinton marriage has. It will come.

[IndianaGreen]

26. Former FOB David Geffen was the source

and he was quite emphatic about it.

[Maddy McCall]

30. And to that I say Obama's day is coming.

I'm sure you'll denounce whatever the right and his "friends" reveal about him the same way you've denounced the Clintons.

[IndianaGreen]

35. We already know the baggage the Clintons bring to the table

and I ain't buying it again!

[Maddy McCall]

39. But you DON'T know the baggage the Obamas are bringing.

And the right will make sure that whatever baggage it is, it'll be bared for all to see.

I hope you remember on that day the disgusting treatment the Clintons received at this DEMOCRATIC website.

[IndianaGreen]

43. The only thing disgusting in here is the dirty campaign the Clintons have waged

to get themselves back in power, beginning with Hillary joining the GOP in sliming John Kerry and John Murtha.

The only time Hillary has shown any toughness, it was against Democrats opposed to the war in Iraq and a future war in Iran.

[Maddy McCall]

45. Keep changing the subject. I'm talking about DU behavior.

Is it always this difficult for you to stay on topic, or do you always throw the strawmen up when the debate doesn't go your way?

[LostinVA]

109. And, if they can't find enough baggage, that won't make a damn bit of difference

They'll find someone desperate enough, pathetic enough, or sociopathic enough to come up with some (ie Wiley).

[greguganus]

124. And you do?

You are salivating at the thought of something being "found" on the Obamas. How many more times are you gonna post "You don't know about the Obamas? Give it a rest.

[okasha]

90. An alcoholic?

n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

98. LOL!

And I heard Hillary is a Friend of Dorothy, too!

[KitchenWitch]

129. Oh SNAP!

:thumbsup:

[JorgeTheGood]

19. Beautifully said ...

"no one gets to walk between the rain" ...

No More ~ Bob Seger ~ Face the promise

[tularetom]

20. I must not be paying attention

But I haven't noticed any attacks on the Clintons marriage.

I'm leaning away from Hillary primarily because I'm mistrustful of her true commitment to progressive policies.

I also think Bill Clinton has interjected himself into this process in an unhealthy manner, but I have no criticism of their marriage. That's none of my fuckin business.

Neither is Obama's marriage.

[cloudythescribbler]

67. Exactly the point -- I HAVE been following DU closely, and these folk focus on ONE alleged post ...

and for that I don't even see a link. "Y'all" and Clinton's marriage? 17 recommendations?!!!!?? For this crap? This is merely another sign of the swarms of Obama-bashers that there are on this board.

Don't be fooled by all the general complaints of there being nearly as much or more personal attacks on the Clintons. It's all BS! True, there are bound to be SOME excesses in a heated primary season, but this is way beyond what anyone could plausibly believe in good faith.

So WHERE are the OPs focused on the Clinton's marital issues? The ONE point (which I WOULD consider a valid one, especially in light of all the allegations of 'sexism' being Hillary's problem, not other issues) that HAS been made is that Hillary Clinton is NOT someone who accomplished a whole lot independent of her husband (whether philandering or not). Both her election to the senate AND her presidential bid are based on her HUSBAND's presidency, and there is further validity to the point that Hillary wants to claim credit for all the good things while ditching the blame for the bad things in the Clinton Administration.

These latter points might be disputed, but they are NOT examples of Obama supporters repeatedly focusing on sexcapades. There HAVE been a blizzard of threads about McClurkin, something that mysteriously surged AFTER Obama's electoral victories of Feb 9-12, for some odd reason. But here is yet another canard backed up by the usual Obama-bashers directed at Obama and/or his supporters in at best a hyperbolic and exaggerated, if not wholly fabricated, way.

[Avalux]

21. Well, if Bill wasn't a dog Hillary couldn't keep on the porch.....

...I'm sorry, but they do it to themselves. Bill Clinton's political life has been littered with indescretions an entire staff worked to keep under wraps as did his wife. His fling with Monica put an ugly mark on what was otherwise a great presidency. It wasn't hard for the GOP to smear them.

[Maddy McCall]

23. Do you know anything about the FDR/Eleanor marriage?

Talk about some salacious stuff--it was in their marriage.

Unlike today, in the past marriages--and indescretions--were considered private. You want to let trash-journalism and the right-wing smear machine determine your opinion of politicians, go right on ahead.

You should be smarter than that.

[Avalux]

32. Maddy. Please reread your OP. You are making an assumption about the Obamas.

I was merely pointing out that there were indiscretions in the Clinton's marriage and whether you like it or not, Bill Clinton did lie about Lewinsky. It was perfect fodder for the GOP.

You brought up the subject of marital infidelity to swipe at Obama. How trashy is that?

[Maddy McCall]

34. I am not making assumptions. I'm simply saying that...

what the Clintons went through, the Obamas will go through.

No one comes out unscathed.

[terrya]

38. I think under the circumstances FDR and Eleanor had a remarkable marriage.

She was annoyed at the extramarital affairs of FDR...and well, there is evidence to suggest that she had a lesbian affair with Lorena Hickok.

But they had a marriage ultimately of respect. When he was President, he used Eleanor as a barometer of the mood of the country. And she respected him, I think.

If FDR and Eleanor were alive today, you'd see this same sort of stuff hurled at them that's being used against Bill and Hillary Clinton.

[Maddy McCall]

40. Exactly. Can you imagine the assertions that...

Eleanor only cared about civil rights because she "rode her husband's coattails?"

Eleanor was the conscience behind FDR's presidency. I can't even begin to wonder the kind of shit that would be said about her, if she and her husband had to walk in the murky light of today's media.

[DDQ]

125. Totally agree with you Maddy

[GoldieAZ49]

105. Why don't you start a thread trashing the FDR marriage

Many don't know anything about it

Then you could be outraged about that too.


Defending bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior ... you really want to run with that?

[Hepburn]

29. Who fucking cares about either marriage!?!?!?

There is a war in Iraq and homeless sleeping on our streets. There are thousands who go without necessary medical care everyday...and this is the shit you dig up that is important to you?

Get a clue and get some priorities. What either couple do in their rspective bedrooms with each other is their business. If either or both couples are having affairs, have had affairs, are bi, straight or gay, what in the hell does that have to do with their ability to lead? I had no clue that the gentials are directly connected to the thinking process.

Get some tolerance, OK, and get your nose out of other people's business and pants.

Sheesh!

[Maddy McCall]

31. An awful lot of DUers care about the Clinton marriage. It's all over this forum.

[Hepburn]

47. So what?

That means that gives you a free pass to post shit about someone else's marriage?

What is this?? Kindergarten "tit for tat" time? "Two wrongs make a right" time?

Grow up...IMO, you are no better than those who you call down if you are sliming someone else's marriage. With your permission is it now possible to move on to things that count?

[Maddy McCall]

50. I haven't posted shit about the Obama's marriage. Again, this thread is about DUers' behavior.

If you haven't seen the disgusting smears against the Clintons, taken straight from right-wing websites, then you've got your blinders on.

If you want to tell anyone to "grow up," then walk through this forum and do your school-marm act on the assholes who are dragging the shit here.

[Hepburn]

57. Oh, please....

...read what you have posted and COMPREHEND! It was about at best a grade school level whine.

BTW: Don't pull the board police act on me....I will post to whom I please with or without your approval.

[Maddy McCall]

58. Aren't there more important issues for you to post about?

You know, like the war and homelessness?

For you to admonish me about this topic, you sure have spent a lot of time and effort worrying your pretty little head about my one OP on this topic.

Don't like it? Ignore it.

[Hepburn]

61. So.....is this an admission that your thread is ...

...totally unimportant? :rofl:

Nice slam of yourself!

[Maddy McCall]

64. Nope. It's timely and necessary. But you said that you have more important...

issues to focus on, so by all means, go focus on the issues that deserve more attention.

Evidently you consider this issue worthy of your time, because you've spent a great deal of time in this thread saying not much of anything.

[Hepburn]

82. I just like keeping you busy so that you do not continue to make...

...a fool of yourself. No need to thank me!

[Maddy McCall]

84. And I like you to keep kicking my thread.

Thanks! :hi:

[otohara]

53. I Guess I've Missed All These Threads & Posts

what's being said about their marriage?

[cloudythescribbler]

69. It's "ALL OVER" this forum? Where? I guess I must have eaten right past all of them

[mtnsnake]

41. Thank you for posting this, Maddy

You are so right when you say their day is coming. It'll almost be worth it if Obama gets the nod, just to see his asshole supporters go into shock when the right wing rakes him over the coals for the first 15 hours of his campaign, let alone 15 years of their shit like the Clintons have gone through.

I can just imagine what the Right Wing will do with the ammo they have on Obama already, just with his past drug use and what they'll turn that one into by itself. It'll be all over for Obama before it even gets a chance to get going.

[Catherine Vincent]

44. K&R!

This is one thing I agree with you on MM. Thanks.

[Maddy McCall]

46. Thanks, CG25.

[Cameron27]

51. I don't really believe in karma

but I wish that I did. :-)

No one knows what goes on in anyone else's marriage, the spouses themselves barely know what the hell's going on in their marriage.

[Hepburn]

59. For once I totally agree with a Hillary supporter on something...

...who the hell knows what goes on in a marriage. IMO, there are better issues to discuss.

:hi:

[Maddy McCall]

68. So go discuss them.

I always get a kick out of posters like you who enter a thread, spend ten posts on it, and then tell others "there are more important issues to discuss."

Go discuss them, then. No one demanded your presence, or your ten posts on this topic, in this thread.

[Hepburn]

72. I have been ... on other threads....

...guess you are too caught up sheparding this tripe to notice what else is going on.

:eyes:

Some of us are truly able to multi-task...duh.....

[Maddy McCall]

73. Bingo. Some of us DO multitask. My attention to this thread doesn't...

diminsh my concern about other topics.

Even though you'd like to think so.

What is that? 12 posts on a topic you don't care about? :rofl:

[Omega3]

55. Obamabots sound like Republicans, they can't defend their own canadate with specifics b/c it's

all "hope" and "change" and when pressed all they can do is attack, like a dirty , disgusting Repuke, the most successful Democratic President since FDR.

Part of the problem is most were too young to even remember BC's White House and good times for the middle class.

they thouroughly disgust me.

[robbedvoter]

60. Oh, yeah - there was a Clenis thread on page one - 140 recs after Nevada

retaliation I guess.

[kid a]

62. there's already a thread on this - aren't you the person always screaming:

"do we need 100 threads on the same subject???"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4636898&mesg_id=4636898

plus...if you don't like a thread...ignore it or its poster...its simple.

Do you see the little x by the title and the red x next to the person?
Thats how its done. Just FYI

[tishaLA]

65. I take for granted they will paint Michelle Obama as a she-devil

and all that other shit. It's par for the course.

[Straight Shooter]

70. Ironic, isn't it, considering they're putting the womanizer JFK's "mantle" on Barack's shoulders.

Lord have mercy, if ever there was someone who could truly be called a hound, it was JFK.

Then there's Jackie, that little golddigger, sinking her hooks into Aristotle Onassis because he had so much money and power.

See how it works when you want to villify somebody who was previously a Democratic icon?

Thanks, Maddy. People's marriages are their own damn business. I never watched one minute of that charade where they paraded all of Bill Clinton's sexual escapades on TV. How embarrassing it was to prove to the world the borderline depraved voyeuristic attitude of Americans' views on love and sex.

[billyoc]

71. I certainly will keep posting about the Clintons' marriage

to the DLC. :hi:

[Straight Shooter]

77. And I will keep posting about DLC'er Sebelius' endorsement of Obama.

And DLC'er Daschle putting all his weight behind Obama, FWIW.

Obama having his cake and eating it, too.

[billyoc]

81. Oh, let me help you out with that, Sen. Obama's chief economic advisor

is another DLC member, just like Sebelius and Daschle.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253989&kaid=125&subid=163

Obama himself is not a member, that's the best I can do this election cycle.

[Straight Shooter]

97. It's a politically incestuous group.

Obama not being a member is like me standing outside the Elks Club, having food openly handed to me by members who are feasting on the indoor banquet, and claiming I'm not really eating from their tables.

[billyoc]

99. A good analogy. I want to remove DLC leadership, DLC members and

DLC collaborators from government. In that order.

[cloudythescribbler]

78. Looking over the past 7 pages, there was ONE mention of Clinton marriage & a SLEW about "plagiarism"

[Maddy McCall]

80. Dig inside some of those headlines.

There are NUMEROUS mentions of the Clinton's marriage.

[DemGa]

83. Obamas' co-opting the right-wing attacks on the Clintons is reprehensible

Indeed it will come back around.

[rodeodance]

86. as are the Obama supporters here on DU that do the same. Shame on them.

[JimGinPA]

91. Funny, I Haven't Seen Anywhere Where Obama Has Done Any Such Thing

Another imagined reason to slam Obama.:tinfoilhat:

[DemGa]

93. .....

Surely you recall Dear Obama profiting from the right-wing attacks on Hillary -- she is "divisive and "polarizing" because of those fraudulent attacks -- they've left a nasty negative perception with Republicans.

Co-opt = assimilate, appropriate as one's own -- The facts are indisputable.

[JimGinPA]

96. she is "divisive and "polarizing" because...

she is "divisive and "polarizing", not because Obama said it or anyone else said it. Just because you don't recognize that she is doesn't change the fact that she is and most people know it.

[JackRiddler]

102. Why are you inviting it? nt

[LostinVA]

106. They shall see

I suspect that, if Obama gets the nom,ination, the GOP already has a "nice" barrel full of stuff to use against both Senator and Mrs. Obama... along with speculation and made up garbage -- and lots of it will stick. If Senator Obama as much as publicly flirted witha woman, that will be all over the place. Hopefully not on here, no matter how the "supporters" have flooded DU with RW shit about the Clintons' relationship.

So many of you have sop much to be ashamed about.

btw -- I'm stealing your avatar, if that's alright.

[Maddy McCall]

107. Sure! Steal away.

Anyone who wants to borrow it is welcome to it.

[LostinVA]

110. When I saw it this morning, I was filled with lust

You know, similar to yours for Hillary, you well known DU lesbian, you.

[Maddy McCall]

111. LOL. Yeah, I put on this rainbow heart...

and all the sudden, I get a toaster in the mail.

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

112. Hey -- I told them to give you one of those really nice, handmade ones from the UK

Williams-Sonoma sells them for about $300. Let me know if you got a cheap one.

Is this place bonkers or what???

[Maddy McCall]

113. This place has gone absolutely nuts.

I'm sending you a PM in a sec.

[LostinVA]

115. Answered

[Jamastiene]

120. Yes! Yes! We ALLLLL lust for her.

:rofl:

[KitchenWitch]

130. Can I be an honorary DU Lesbian?

:D

[LostinVA]

131. You know you are!

[Jamastiene]

118. Karma's like a boomerang.

What they send out will come right back at them. At that point, I'm only going to post, "We told you so. n/t" and sit back with :popcorn:

[AntiFascist]

121. I've never done this before, but I'll give it a go....

How FUCKING STUPID could Bill Clinton be getting blow jobs in the oval office? Do you really think the reich wing will let this guy back into the White House?

<Blowback, oh yeah speaking of blow...>

[LibDemAlways]

123. The Obama marriage will be pretty far

down on the repuke smear machine's list. They'll be too busy perpetuating every negative racial stereotype they know, and a few new one's they'll invent.

[CorpGovActivist]

126. Thanks for that warning. Thanks to Bill for making that a non-issue for most in the future...

... too. At least some good will have come of his wasted potential.

- Dave

[Unbowed]

127. I haven't seen those threads, but that's not a subject that we should be concerned with.

I don't care about the Clinton's marriage. That is the business of two people and two people only: Hillary and Bill.

[AlCzervik]

132. i have 0 interest in either candidates marriage or in McCain's marriage for that matter.