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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:46 PM
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Plagairism story: Rebound for or beginning of the end of the Clinton campaign?
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 01:53 PM by x-g.o.p.er
At first glance, this seems like an act of desperation, but I could be wrong. It may be the one thing that gains traction and begins to stop the Obama moentum train.

What does DU think?

Either way, I sure am glad the Clintons hate the politics of personal destruction, because I'd hate to see what they'd do if they embraced and employed those tactics. :wtf:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:50 PM
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1. It's a non-story and an act of desperation from the Clinton Campaign.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 01:51 PM by sparosnare
Obama speech writers used text from a close political ally's speech with the man's consent. It was certainly not plagiarism.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:33 PM
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13. What's next, and how low will they go?
I'm thinking pretty low.

And I wonder if Obama wins any of Hillary's firewall states, whether they'll carry on all the way to Denver or just give up.

But giving up isn't in the Clinton's playbook.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:50 PM
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2. You blame Obama's plagiarism as reported in the Boston Globe - on Clinton?
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 01:51 PM by MethuenProgressive
She hacked the Globe's News division typeset servers and planted the story while circling the printing plant in Janet reno's invisible Blackhawk helicopter, right? With Elvis as her co-pilot?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:52 PM
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3. It's nothing new.
The desperation and appalling lack of decency were apparent the night before NH.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:52 PM
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4. Maybe if it had been from someone other than a close colleague and supporter
it might get some traction. Instead, it just reinforces that they are desperate and raises fears among superdelegates that they will get increasingly negative and cause a backlash among them.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:54 PM
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5. I don't think it's going to change the minds of people who support Obama
It doesn't make me regret caucusing for him. That's all I have to go by.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:55 PM
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6. It is a big deal
He is guilty of taking almost verbatum what Patrick said...words? Only words? Come on Obama, surely you have some other thoughts of your own?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:56 PM
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8. I looked at it all side by side...
It wasn't even CLOSE to being verbatim. If that's the best they can come up with, well I'm sorry but it's pretty weak. And I haven't even committed 100% to Obama yet.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:58 PM
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9. It's a shame, I still like the Clintons
but this shit is just getting ridiculous.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:32 PM
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12. WITH HIS PERMISSION AND CONSENT
AND ADVICE!

You have got to be kidding me with this crap.

I've been neutral in this whole process, dont really care who wins, but this may be the lamest, most desperate move I've ever seen.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:55 PM
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7. New Clinton Tactic: Old Rovian Tactic
Change the meaning of words.

Plagiarism - (n) the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

If they are friends, and political allies, it goes to assume that they would bounce ideas off of each other.

And since a line must be unauthorized, and I don't hear anybody saying "he stole my line", it's not plagiarism.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:02 PM
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10. They're willing to side w/ McCain on campaign finance,
Hil might as well be McCain's VP, she is being borderline traitorous to the party. She will do absolutely ANYTHING to get elected, but yes, she is about to go down for the count. I think many people are sick of the Clinton tactics.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:02 PM
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11. NOSE-DIVE!
Goodbye Hillary. I've grown to dislike you the past couple of months.

Too bad, to. I really liked the Clinton's before.
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