New website...interesting name

[blogslut]

delegatehub.org

Whois Record:

Domain ID:D151350929-LROR
Domain Name:DELEGATEHUB.ORG
Created On:15-Feb-2008 00:03:22 UTC
Last Updated On:16-Feb-2008 18:09:35 UTC
Expiration Date:15-Feb-2009 00:03:22 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:40974781-NSIV
Registrant Name:Private Registration
Registrant Organization:Private Registration
Registrant Street1:ATTN insert domain name here
Registrant Street2:care of Network Solutions
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Herndon
Registrant State/Province:VA
Registrant Postal Code:20172
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:[phone]
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:
Admin ID:39300990-NSIV
Admin Name:Friends of Hillary
Admin Organization:Friends of Hillary
Admin Street1:ATTN insert domainname here
Admin Street2:care of Network Solutions
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Herndon
Admin State/Province:VA
Admin Postal Code:20172
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:[phone]
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:
Tech ID:33834545-NSIV
Tech Name:Hostmaster
Tech Organization:Hostmaster
Tech Street1:ATTN insert domain name here
Tech Street2:care of Network Solutions
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Herndon
Tech State/Province:VA
Tech Postal Code:20172
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:[phone]
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:
Name Server:NS.CPOINT.NET
Name Server:NS2.CPOINT.NET
Name Server:NS3.CPOINT.NET

*note* the nameserver CPOINT.NET Same company that is handling all of Clinton's other sites.

What is Hillary up to? Why would she need a special website just for delegates? And why would she hide it behind a privacy protection service?

link: http://whois.domaintools.com/delegatehub.org

[bicentennial_baby]

1. Interesting...

[blogslut]

3. isn't it?

What purpose could that website serve?

[fascisthunter]

9. Is This Illegal Though?

[alteredstate]

15. Yes, it is!

[goldcanyonaz]

2. ....

:wtf:

Anyone can purchase a domain and put any information they want into the registrar.

[blogslut]

4. Ahh, but they can't make it reside on the same name server as CPOINT.

now can they?

EDIT ADD: Innacurate WHOIS info is against ICANN rules.

[NoBorders]

5. Hmmmm... worth keeping an eye on.

[DJ13]

6. Sounds like she's setting up a deal making website to buy SD's

The privacy screen is the hint about that.

[fascisthunter]

7. Nah... That Stuff Never Happens

:crazy: :rofl:

[TriMetFan]

8. oh brother!

I think that both whacked out Obama and Hillary supporters are grasping at straws now. You are going to tell the rest of us that Obama doesn't and has not done this? Please...... Lets talk about the real issues and not bullshit.

[fascisthunter]

11. Refute the OP with Something Substantial

looks grim

[TriMetFan]

19. Why should I?????

Just look all over DU and most of the stuff is Obama is this type of jerk and Hillary is this type jerk. Time to talk about the issues. Again they all do this type of stuff. Hell Obama has pay for some of his Super Delegate to a tune of $600,000 and Hillary has done the same. I was for Obama at one time, even sent the man money, then I went to Hillary and sent her money, but I'm getting sick of both of these people because of this kind of bullshit from their wacko supporters.

[blogslut]

20. thanks for the wacko crack

Call me crazy, but the implication that a presidential candidate would provide an online hub for delegates is kinda serious.

[blogslut]

14. I have looked into that

Obama's site has two other sites pointing to it. Both of them are commercial spammers trying to get typein traffic. They don't share the CPOINT/DNS connection like delegatehub.org does. I also suspect those two spammer sites will be .htaccessed off shortly.

[Capn Sunshine]

21. WE have a proprietary secured site, yes.

If I had to venture a guess, this website will be used at the convention.

[blogslut]

22. Thanks for that answer

I tried to call the Obama campaign about this delegatehub.org site but y'all are too busy now for lil ol me. :p

When I spoke with them before about another funky domain, the staff guy I spoke with was totally on it. They all knew about it. I was so impressed.

[helderheid]

36. Blogslut has a link! Do you?

[Maddy McCall]

10. Scandalous!

[blogslut]

12. I called the Clinton campaign

Got through to the press office. Was transferred to the tech department. Answering machine. Left a message. We'll see if they get back to me.

[billyoc]

13. Port scan shows port 80/tcp open, but no content served up. nt

[blogslut]

16. no, it's not live

this is true

[billyoc]

24. They have MIcrosoft IIS running on that box, but no defauilt content.

wtf are they playing at?

[blogslut]

27. Remember the ruckus over votingpresent.org?

That one was absolutely registered to the Clinton campaign. They never went live with it but they did move it to its own server.

[K Gardner]

17. You rock, blogslut ! It ain't the 90s anymore and the Clintons think all things

go unnoticed.

[blogslut]

18. Well, I ain't counting no chickens

:)

[grantcart]

28. leave a message saying that you are about to run a piece for syndication

that accuses them of a violation of campaign laws but would like their opinion before you run the piece and see if you get a call back.

[blogslut]

30. nah

I already sent an email tip to a certain website.

I'm just hoping the Clinton campaign calls me back. I would like to know the truth.

[Whisp]

23. not sure of the implications here.

can you dumb it down a bit for me?
what are the possible infractions?

thanks
sounds juicy, but I have no idea about all this whois stuff, etc.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

25. Dumb it down for me too, alot.

Shouldn't the DNC be responsible for a delegate hub? Or the DNCC?

[blogslut]

26. When you register a domain name

You are supposed to include your contact information: ADMIN name, ORG name, TECH name, physical address, etc. If the information is false, ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) can yank your domain away from you.

When you perform a WHOIS lookup on a domain name, you will see information similar to what I posted in the OP, personalized for your site, naturally.

A privacy protection service hides public WHOIS information.

A domain name is only that. It is not a website until actual content is uploaded to a hosting server.

It is possible to point one's domain name to another server but usually you discover the bad webmaster has a completely different host.

For an example of a webmaster pointing a domain name to another server, open www.hotlesbiansheepaction.com.

I am trying to find out if this delegatehub.org site is indeed, part of the Clinton campaign, or if it is some script kiddie playing with teh Interwebs.

[Whisp]

31. thanks, much clearer.

it is possible that this is a ruse to make Clinton look shady (lol!, I have to laugh at that one - she does so well to herself on that), I understand that part now.

but...
if it ends up being a legit site for superdelegates, or to talk about the superdelegate issue in private - put up by Clinton -
partly in secrecy (otherwise it would be right on her campaign site, correct?)
what could the reasons be for this looking at it from her end
and would it break any campaigning rules, etc.?

thanks
will keep this thread on my 'interest' list.

[blogslut]

29. moar interesting

http://whois.domaintools.com/delegatehub.com


Whois Record

Registrant:
Private Registration
ATTN: DELEGATEHUB.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

Domain Name: DELEGATEHUB.COM

Administrative Contact:
Hillary Clinton for President

ATTN: DELEGATEHUB.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780

Technical Contact:
Hostmaster
ATTN: DELEGATEHUB.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780

Record expires on 14-Feb-2009.
Record created on 14-Feb-2008.
Database last updated on 18-Feb-2008 15:15:17 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.CPOINT.NET 207.97.212.140
NS2.CPOINT.NET 204.10.48.76
NS3.CPOINT.NET 66.251.208.51

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

32. kick

[wildflowergardener]

33. private registration

I don't know any reason why, or why not there would be anything wrong with this, but I know that our work domain name is registered with Network Solutions and the private registration is something we get for something like $9 a year - I believe it helps cut down on spam or to keep our companies contact info semi private, though I might be wrong. We still have to give our info to them, it's just not publicly available if a person does a search on our domain name.

Editing: Why would Network Solutions offer private registration as a service if it was not completely legal?

One last edit from their website - we got this because it sounded like a good thing to us.

Do you want to protect your privacy? Add Private Registration to your domain name(s) and Network Solutions will provide alternate contact information for the listing of your domain name registration(s) in the public WHOIS database.
Domain Names with Private Registration receive:

* Privacy - Alternate contact information will be used to keep your personal information private
* Protection - Prevent e-mails from spammers and calls from telemarketers
* Value - For only $9/year, you will have the peace of mind that your e-mail address, home address, or phone number information will not be misused
* Full Control - Unlike other proxy services, you remain the registrant for the private domain name
* E-mail Masking - Your private registration e-mail address changes every 10 days. E-mail received at this address will be filtered for spam and forwarded to your designated e-mail account.

Meg

[blogslut]

34. Yes

There is nothing wrong or illegal as far as private registration goes. However, if this particular domain is part of the Clinton campaign, private registration looks suspicious. I am not up on FEC rules in reference to websites but I would think that full disclosure is standard operating procedure.

What I'm trying to find out is whether or not this domain is part of the Clinton campaign and why (if it is) did they register it?

Still haven't heard back from the Clinton campaign. I will try again tomorrow.

[Bread and Circus]

35. Kick.... is this part of the going after the pledged delegates strategy?

[blogslut]

40. Trying to find that out

It seems logical.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

37. lol, nice smilies! nt

[blogslut]

42. that's the auto-emoticon

Something to do with the proximity of the ":" to another character.

[UALRBSofL]

38. Can you post in people words

Instead of computer words? :) TIA

[blogslut]

43. see post #26

n/t

[CorpGovActivist]

39. LOL...

... I'm not letting you anywhere near my website list (and it's long).

:rofl:

[blogslut]

41. I have magic powers

;)

And a subscription to a thang.

[CorpGovActivist]

44. Do me a realsie favor? I'll give you a good backrub.

What do you come up with for my website holdings with that tool? PM me?

; )

- Dave

[blogslut]

45. I need a URL

PM me if you need to

[CorpGovActivist]

46. Excellent!

You need a URL. I spit at your tool.

: p

[blogslut]

47. okay

I sent you the PM.

[CorpGovActivist]

54. Checking now, thanks!

[alteredstate]

48. The website is up and running

http://www.delegatehub.com/

[NeedleCast]

51. Many of the Links Produce Javascript Errors

At least for me at work, but this is a fed computer and is probably running ancient ActiveX versions. I can't click on any of the "more" links.

[Renew Deal]

49. Nice find!

:yourock:

[jackstraw45]

50. "Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President" see bottom of page

www.delegatehub.com

[RoadRage]

52. This "proudly" now says "Hillary Clinton for President" at the bottom of the page..

I don't think they're hiding anything. Not that they really could with the total spin put on the whole page. "FACT: Why Michigan and Florida should count" kind of gives it away.. :eyes:

[blogslut]

53. Hmmm

Maybe it's time to call someone back