"there will plenty of time to establish the positions of Barack Obama when he is nominated"

[Horse with no Name]

Answer to a question by Tucker about why the republicans have pretty much laid off of Obama.
Buckle your seatbelts folks...

[Name removed]

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[BeatleBoot]

2. Ya' think?

"All aboard the Obama Train....the edge of the cliff is around the next turn"

[Jamastiene]

3. The GE campaign season is going to be a train wreck.

It is going to be so embarrassing and frustrating for our party. I dread it. I'm afraid it's going to be a smack down. It sounds like the Republicans have this thing in the bag if Obama gets the nomination.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. It's gonna be great!

The opponent is McCain!


:rofl:

[sueragingroz]

21. and we get a looney toon for president

:freak:

yippee....


let me break out the party favours....



:nuke:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. Who?

McCain ain't winning shit. He can hardly put Mike Huckabee away. :rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

4. Um...so? I think most of us figure the Republicans weren't going to let

him waltz to the White House completely unimpeded. He's just doing it without the HsuMonicaTravelgateIWRChungLincolnBedroomDubaiKazakhstanWhiteHousePapersLibraryDonors etc.etc.--that's quite some baggage he DOESN'T have to haul.

[Horse with no Name]

5. If there is ONE thing we know about the republican party/MSM

They would NEVER have let Obama be a frontrunner if he didn't have baggage.
Make no mistake about that.
These candidates were handpicked from the start. It was never a contest.
Everyone knew Hillary's dirty laundry.
The trick was making people believe Obama didn't have any thus making him the MOST electable of the two.
All I can say is hold on tight. You ain't seen nothing yet.

[TwilightGardener]

7. I think the voters made Obama the front-runner. I don't think anyone "handpicked" Obama.

I don't know, or care, if Obama is not 100% perfect and squeaky clean--I just think he's the best we've got, and I fully expect they'll try to dig stuff up anyway. However, I believe there's PLENTY more dirt that will come out on the Clintons, regardless of what would happen with Obama. Your post reads somewhat paranoid. The GOP can't get its own shit together this year--like they really wanted a mumbling, shuffling 72-year-old man who screams obscenities at people and can't remember his own policy positions to be their standard-bearer.

[Horse with no Name]

11. My what a short memory

The MSM handed us two candidates and gave them max coverage from the start...in the news, during the debates, etc.
They were the only two that even existed if you weren't paying close attention.
So yes...the MSM MADE Obama and Hillary the frontrunners even if you will not admit it.
You might think he is the best we've got...but the only caveat is he may be the best we've got LEFT. The rest died on the vine from lack of coverage.

[TwilightGardener]

12. To be honest, they were the only two I really saw as viable from the start.

I figured Obama would suck all the oxygen away from Edwards when he decided to run, and he did. I figured Biden, Dodd and Richardson just wouldn't excite anyone, and they didn't. I think the media plays its games, but I can't say they totally engineered everything deliberately. They follow what people are interested in, for ratings, more often than they generate interest.

[rodeodance]

6. actualy--i think this was posted last week--or sim. phase.

[avrdream]

8. I missed it last week but have been saying this for a while.

They want him as our candidate.

[rodeodance]

13. thanks--i thought it sounded familiar

[Horse with no Name]

10. It was just on TV

I don't think it was a repeat?:shrug:

[CyberPieHole]

9. K&R n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. K&r

[KaptBunnyPants]

15. No matter who the candidate is, it's always the one Republicans "wanted to run against".

I wish people would stop falling for this bs. Republicans always claim that Democrats have fallen into their subtle plan, and there's always some dupe willing to post their garbage on DU. Republicans don't care who the candidate is because their campaign method is to fling crap and count on the media not to call them on it. If they can call Gore a liar and Kerry a coward and get away with it, then fretting over which candidate will be "vulnerable" to Republican smears is pointless. They will say what they want about who ever they want. Our hope lies not with picking the perfect candidate who is immune to Republican lies, but with reminding people what a good government can do for it's citizens with a direct populist (pro-worker) message.

[Horse with no Name]

16. yet we refuse to nominate a populist

go figure....

[KaptBunnyPants]

19. I'm just hoping the winner of the nomination steals Edward's message.

nm

[Donnachaidh]

20. the general public needs a reminder as to the difference between popular and populist.

They seem to think the two are interchangeable. FAR from it. That talking head with flowery speeches that state nothing is just as likely to be a status quo candidate as the other side.

[sueragingroz]

17. this is coming off like some sort of Rovian melodrama

They are soooo sticking to script here!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

23. Buzz is they plan on portraying him as an uber liberal socialist.

I read this the other day.

Right slams Obama as 'shady Chicago socialist'
Republicans are out to crush Barack by painting him as a leftwinger with dubious support

Leading Republicans believe they can trounce Barack Obama in the presidential election by tarring him as a shady Chicago socialist. They are increasingly confident that his campaign could collapse by the time their attack machine has finished with him.

Grover Norquist, an influential conservative tax reform lobbyist, said: “Barack Obama has been able to create his own image and introduce himself to voters, but the swing voters in a general election are not paying attention yet. He is open to being defined as a leftwing, corrupt Chicago politician.”

Norquist’s comments will be music to the ears of Hillary Clinton, Obama’s Democratic rival, who believes Obama has not been sufficiently “vetted” for the White House. She has been unable to attack him too vociferously without risking a backlash from Democratic primary voters, but Republicans may salvage her campaign by doing the job for her.

Obama has the voting record of a “hard-left” socialist, according to Norquist, from his time in the Illinois state legislature to the US Senate. He was recently judged by the nonpartisan National Journal to have the most liberal voting record in 2007 of any senator.

More at link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3382313.ece

[bigtree]

24. blank slate

for the majority of Americans

[Scriptor Ignotus]

25. duh

who doesn't think the GOP will come after him with knives out?

[Horse with no Name]

27. Shoot the messenger much?

Was just stating what I just saw on television.
Now go put your head back in the sand...you'll like it much better...

[Scriptor Ignotus]

28. I wasn't attacking you

was saying "duh" to the forum, not to you specifically.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. You betcha. The Kerry Swiftboating will look like kid's play when they've finished with BO.

And BO supporters think he's going to beat McCain.:eyes: Talk about delusional.

[stillcool]

29. the big bad republicans...

are comin', hide your heart, girl
You better, better hide your heart
Repub's are comin', better walk

Walk but you'll never get away
No, you'll never get away from the burnin' a-heartache
I walked to Apollo by the bay
Everywhere I go though, Repubs a-comin' (she walked but she never got
away)
Repubs a-comin' (she walked but she never got away)
Repubs a-comin' and he's comin' to git ya (she walked but... she walked
but...)
Get down on your knees (she walked but she never got away)
http://www.threedognight.com/l_eli.html

I am so tired of hearing this.:scared:
However I really like this:

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.--Bob Dylan

:bounce: