Drunken Irishman
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:04 PM
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So I'm a second-class voter in the eyes of the Clinton campaign. |
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I'm a Democrat in Utah, which means her campaign won't mind if I don't vote for her if she happens to win the nomination.
Since, you know, I'm one of those red state Democrats, whose vote doesn't really count.
I've always supported the idea of backing the eventual winner of this thing, but if I'm going to be told my voice and my opinion is less than those of people living in blue states, well fuck, maybe it is time I keep my options open.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:09 PM
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1. Not you - just any of your Democratic elected officials and Party leaders |
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THEY'RE second class :eyes:
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:09 PM
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2. demo in Utah - no wonder you have a drinking problem |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:10 PM
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3. I tried to google to see what this was about with no luck |
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I've obviously missed something. Could someone explain to me, please?
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:14 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:12 PM
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4. Oh, go eat an Idaho potato. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:12 PM
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5. Think about how we here in Texas feel! |
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Her campaign had the audacity to say this Before we've even voted! You know if Texas ever went blue or even purple again, it would be Because of the "red-state democrats"
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:14 PM
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I admit, my curiosity is roused. :shrug:
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:15 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:20 PM
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13. What the hell is he talking about? |
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I always vote Democratic in the GE. What does he think, we only decide to show up to a caucus and then hid back in our hole?
What an idiotic statement.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:27 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:40 PM
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I was rather enjoying my brief moment as a courted member of the Democratic party. He really didn't have to go and pee in my cheerios like that.
Way to rally your red state Democrats right before a vital primary/caucus. That's no doubt why he makes the big bucks. :eyes:
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:14 PM
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22. Sorry -- was being sarcastic. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:25 PM
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I was just tossing out my brittlely dry humor for all to enjoy. :P
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:22 PM
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14. I forgot my manners....Thank you for the link. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:27 PM
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No need for thanks -- it was implied.
:hi:
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:58 PM
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avatar :P It does look really good.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:13 PM
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6. Hillary -- running for President of the United Blue States of America |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:18 PM
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23. President of the United States that Matter |
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Remember, even blue states don't count for shit unless they're big enough.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:37 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:47 PM
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29. Not if I give you permission... |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:15 PM
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9. shut the hell up mick! |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:17 PM
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11. Drunken Irishman, thanks for being here, |
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I thought there was only one other Utahn here beside me, Heiderheld. I'm in northern Utah. We have a few Democrats up here, but only a few. Lonely.
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:42 AM
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39. What part of Utah? I'm lucky, I live in Salt Lake. |
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A lot more likeminded folk down this way. In fact, dare I say Salt Lake is actually LIBERAL! :)
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:20 PM
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12. Ok, and as a Hillary voter, I'm... |
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A lower-class, uneducated American.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:24 PM
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15. however, she'll gladly accept any donation you may make. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:28 PM
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States and people, not so much.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:56 PM
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20. If Hillary somehow wins the nomination |
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I'm going to take a serious look at a third party candidate. I refuse to vote Republican, but Hillary is making harder and harder for me to want vote for her.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:58 PM
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it's all about her. Forget the many, many elected Democrats in red states who contribute to the Democratic majority in Congress. Yeah, they don't matter. I guess all of us red state Democrats should just stay at home on election day despite many of our elected Congress people running for office. How does Hillary expect to get ANYTHING done without a Democratic majority, made possible by red state Democrats?
Hmmm...maybe we'll never know...
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:20 PM
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24. Yes. You are. Welcome to the second-class. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:21 PM
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25. actually, you are. If Hill wins they will dismantle the 50 state strategy and |
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eject Howard Dean as quick as they possibly can.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:04 AM
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34. Sorry, not acceptable. |
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We are one of the fastest growing states in the US. To simply discount our Democrats because we our currently out numbered would be a tactical error of epic proportions for our party.
We are finally beginning to make some (noticeable) headway at local levels here. I will not be denied the fruits of our hard work simply because we're not prime USDA 100% blue fillet.
Dammit, I'm a Democrat, warts and all!
What kind of an idiot would make a statement such as that? I'll work for half his pay and make stupid statements all day if that's what they're looking for.
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Tue Feb-19-08 08:47 AM
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40. I know that's not acceptable and it's one of the many reasons I will NEVER vote for Clinton. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:22 PM
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26. I think they could use those lines against Hillary in the GE n/t |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:49 PM
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30. I'm first class even though I didn't vote for her |
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Sucks to be you though. It's a shame she hates so many fellow Democrats.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:53 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:53 PM
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32. hilaryland is running the primary campaign |
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into the ground and not shoring up for the general..they've making sure Obama has a big mess to clean up just like he'll have to clean up after bush.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:13 AM
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If she becomes President, will I need a passport to drive from Washington to Idaho or Illinois to Indiana?
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:20 AM
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36. hilary does not inspire |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:03 AM
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37. As Dems in Utah, we're second-class voters to most everyone. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 01:04 AM by Herdin_Cats
Sorry. That's just the way it is. I know it sucks. Our votes in the presidential general election don't count because all of this state's electoral votes will go to the Republican every time.
It would require Thomas S. Monson declaring some kind of revelation that Mormons are now supposed to voted for Democrats for the to change. And I think that would cause a bigger split in the church than the manifesto ending polygamy did.
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:39 AM
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38. Well I love how Obama has at least reached out to Utah. |
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And I have no doubt when he's the nominee he'll make a stop here to campaign.
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