Bicoastal
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:50 PM
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Poll question: Do you think Hillary's recent charge of plagiarism will have an effect on tomorrow's vote? |
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We may never have any way of knowing this, of course...
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:51 PM
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1. It goes far deeper than plagiarism n/t |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:53 PM
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2. But why doesn't it ever go so deep that you actually say something NICE |
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about Hillary, instead of beating on her competition?
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 AM
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19. You're repeating yourself. |
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It seems to me I heard that line before.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:24 AM
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This is stating the obvious.
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:55 PM
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3. I am still awaiting an original thought from Obama..I wait. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:00 PM
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supposed expert on all things Obama.
You do know he wrote the 2004 Dem speech himself.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 AM
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21. He wrote the 2004 speech himself? |
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Didn't know that...do you have a source? That's pretty awesome if it's true.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:16 AM
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22. Nevermind, found a source |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:00 PM
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6. Hillary is just so genuine! |
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:05 AM
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20. Can you read? Try his two books. |
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Mon Feb-18-08 10:58 PM
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4. It will hurt her slightly, mainly with late deciding voters, who don't like that sort of thing. |
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The later a voter decides, the more they dislike any kind of appeal to anything other than what they consider a substantive issue. Negative the last night never works. That's when you have to go positive to close the deal with undecideds. It makes those voters feel that the candidate is not concerned about their issues, and wants to get in one last "but he did it!"
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:01 PM
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7. It could have hurt him but his campaign responded, swiftly and decisively. |
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Voters want to see that you are willing to fight.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:37 AM
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24. It turns out in December OBAMA DID CREDIT DEVAL AND SAID THEY TRADE LINES |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:05 PM
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8. Other--it's having a helluvan effect on Obama supporters here. |
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They're "Keeping Plagiarism Alive!!" by posting different takes on the topic, again and again and again!
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:14 PM
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10. Ah, the patented "older sibling" stimulus/response... |
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...keep slapping the other person in the backseat until they've gone from uncaring to miffed to enraged, and then step back and say "Hey--what are you so upset about?"
It's only a matter of time before MADem says "Hey--THEY started it, Mom!"
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:40 PM
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14. Hey, check the posts. Check how many are started by aggrieved and frantic Obamaites |
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I don't know if this business will have any effect on any voting, which is why I voted 'other' in this silly little poll.
I DO know, though, that a bunch of folks here are having shitfits, and most of them seem to be Obama supporters, starting whiney threads about the plagiarism topic.
I haven't started a SINGLE thread on the subject.
So I don't know where you get off telling me I'm 'slapping people in the backseat.' A childish reference, that, for a childish attitude.
Because, see--I'm just making a GENERAL observation....and you, like your fellow acolytes, are taking that general and factual observation "personally."
Of course, that's nothing new. No one is allowed to be even obliquely critical of His Holiness, Saint Barack of Obama. The BORG is gonna get'cha if you do!
I guess The Society of the Perpetually Aggrieved never takes a day off, eh?
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:08 PM
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9. I don't think it will have much effect at all. |
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I don't think it's much of an issue.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:15 PM
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:23 PM
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12. The Hilary campaign is like that cat on Bravo getting acupuncture. |
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Both desperately in pain for different reasons, but still lashing out for their lives.
Sorry, I can't find a video link.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:26 PM
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13. Probably in the real world, it won't have an effect. nt |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:45 PM
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15. how could it have a positive effect on one without having a negative effect on the other? |
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:52 PM
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17. People deciding to stay home rather than vote for either? |
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This happens when a bloc of voters grow tired of all the bickering.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:46 PM
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16. Everytime Hillary goes negative with Obama, he gets a small uptick. |
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Starting with South Carolina. Every state she has tried this in, whether in advertisements, debates, mailers, you name it... he comes out on top.
Maybe this will be different, but I don't think so. Obama by 10 points in WI and 20 in HI.
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Mon Feb-18-08 11:52 PM
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We've had over eight years of Karl Rove already. When Democrats go Rovian on Democrats, it works to Obama's advantage.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:17 AM
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23. It takes two days for an event to have an effect |
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That's what I heard Bill clinton say once. He probably got the information from Mark Penn or any other pollster. It looks like "bumps" of any sorts occur after two days, after a substantial number of people have been made aware of the event.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:42 AM
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25. This will play out all week long and hurt her in Texas next month. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 12:42 AM by Major Hogwash
And maybe even in Ohio - they have had their fill of these types of negative attacks on the Democratic candidates in Ohio for the last 8 years, especially the last 4.
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Tue Feb-19-08 12:45 AM
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26. As some of my more salty buddies would quip in the Army ... |
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Payback is a Mother F**ker! :evilgrin:
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