The money guy behind obamatruth.org is J. Patrick Rooney - REPUBLICAN

[ruggerson]

Now, I'm sure some of you will want to apologize to the Clintons in this thread for your obnoxious paranoia, and so you will be accommodated here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/us/politics/30obama.html

"The video is one of several posted on a Web site, ObamaTruth.org, and circulated on YouTube, where they have received a combined 50,000 viewings. There is nothing on ObamaTruth.org that identifies anyone involved in it. But the site is registered to a veteran political operative from Chicago who works for J. Patrick Rooney, an Indiana insurance magnate known for bankrolling racially charged advertisements attacking Democrats"


http://www.nndb.com/people/624/000121261/

J. Patrick Rooney
AKA John Patrick Rooney

Born: c. 1938


Gender: Male
Religion: Roman Catholic
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Business, Activist
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Golden Rule Insurance

Father: M.A. Rooney
Mother: Mary Rooney
Daughter: Therese A. Rooney
Daughter: Megan Garrett (stepdaughter)


Americans for a Republican Majority

[davidinalameda]

1. do you have a link to prove this

or are we supposed to take your word for it

[ruggerson]

3. I just edited it into the OP

[Bicoastal]

2. Slimey--I went to obamatruth.org, and is it just me...

...or is that picture of Barack at the top tinted to make his skin look DARKER?

Not going to link to such an awful place, obviously.

BTW, who am I supposed to be apologizing to?

[ruggerson]

4. I was referring to Herman's thread wherein trolls blamed Hillary for this site

[Bicoastal]

7. I am now thoroughly convinced of two factors.

A. Half of the GOP is more scared of Obama beating McCain than they are of HRC beating McCain.

B. The other half of the GOP knows they're screwed in November, but would rather see Obama in the White House than HRC.

I've never seen the Republicans so disorganized and worried before--and I LOVE it!

[Seabiscuit]

23. The funny thing is, the right-wing hate radio jockeys and their callers hate McCain so much for

"betraying" the "principles" of the GOP (aside from Iraq) that they've basically conceded the race and are considering voting for whatever Democrat McCain's up against in hopes that four years later that Democrat will have screwed up so much that a new "pureblood" GOP candidate can win back the WH in a landslide so the GOP can hold it for another 100 years.

They'd rather wait 4 years than see McCain undermine the GOP in the WH, watch him screw up ("he's gonna give the illegal bean eaters amnesty, fer cryin' out loud! 4 years of McCain and the western states will be part of Mexico again!"), and then hand the WH over to the Dems for another 100 years.

Meanwhile, they're encouraging their listeners to focus on getting more Repukes into Congress.

Seriously, that's the way they've been talking.

The GOP is crumbling as we speak.

[silverweb]

8. Yes, that picture has been darkened.

That's also the same picture that's been making the rounds with a photoshopped cigarette dangling out of his mouth.

Definitely sleazy.

[bellasgrams]

19. I've seen him on TV with a cig in his mouth. So? That's the

least of my worries about him

[silverweb]

32. Not in the past year, you haven't.

n/t

[backscatter712]

5. K&R - time to prepare for yet another swiftboating...

Follow the money...

[ruggerson]

6. Not a single Obama supporter who smeared Hillary has stepped up to the plate yet

[Bicoastal]

11. I didn't smear Hillary...

...but I'll apologize on behalf of the Asshole Obamanites to promote the existence of us Friendly ones. :hi:

[ruggerson]

16. Thanks

it's nice to see adults here. :hi:

[ThatPoetGuy]

37. Me too!

Obama Supporters Who Don't Hate Hillary, unite!

[davidinalameda]

9. no apology just yet

But the site is registered to a veteran political operative from Chicago who works for J. Patrick Rooney, an Indiana insurance magnate known for bankrolling racially charged advertisements attacking Democrats.

Although he has been a consultant for many politicians over the years, including Walter F. Mondale, the 1984 Democratic presidential nominee, and Mayor Richard M. Daley of Chicago, Mr. Novak said in an interview that lately he had been working almost exclusively for Mr. Rooney. His projects, he said, involve exposing inequities in health care that result in poor people’s being denied medical treatment or gouged by insurers and hospitals, topics of interest to Mr. Rooney, who champions medical savings accounts as an alternative to conventional health insurance.

Mr. Novak maintains a blog, WhereTheMoneyGoes.com, that examines the spending practices of nonprofit hospitals, and some of his disclosures have been picked up by newspapers around the country. He said it was after he learned that Mrs. Obama was earning more than $300,000 as a vice president of the University of Chicago Hospitals, a frequent subject of his writings, that he decided to take a closer look at the Obamas and to set up ObamaTruth.org.

The Obama site, Mr. Novak said, was not part of his work for Mr. Rooney, whom he said was aware of it and “is interested in it.” He said he used his own money to create the Obama videos and maintain the Web site, but he acknowledged that because Mr. Rooney was his principal source of income, one could infer that the two were related.

the article does not say that Rooney is bankrolling the site; this Novak guy has ties to the Democrats, including Mondale who has endorsed Hillary and Daley who has endorsed Obama

still not ready to apologize to anyone

[ruggerson]

12. He worked for Mondale 24 years ago, now works exclusively for Rooney

who is a race baiting Republican.

[davidinalameda]

17. so he's cut all his old ties?

doubtful

I'm just saying that this is just a bit too convenient

[ruggerson]

22. What old ties? To Mondale?

[davidinalameda]

42. if he was working for Mondale, it stands to reason that he was working for other Democrats

at one time or another-see Mayor Daley

I'm just saying this is all to convenient-it comes out the weekend before big primaries, primaries that Hillary has to win

was this information just uncovered or has someone been sitting on it all this time?

with all the underhanded tricks that have come out of the Hillary campaign, no one would be surprised to see another one

[ruggerson]

43. uh, this site has been up there for months

you're letting the tinfoil hat side of your brain run off with you

[FrenchieCat]

10. The person who posted that website should be apologizing......

I can post links to smut as well.....but I choose not to.

[GarbagemanLB]

13. Exactly.

I eagerly wait an apology from Herman.

[my2sense]

14. Image Altered

I noticed they darkened his image, I almost didn't recognize him.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

15. political operative nicknamed "Low Joe Blow"

There's no telling who is pulling the strings. Hillary hasn't denounced this has she?

Joe Novak is a political operative, gets paid mostly by Pat Rooney, who attacked John Kerry's wife.
Roomey is a major financial backer for two pro-Republican groups, America’s PAC and the Council for Better Government. Rooney was chairman of an insurance company for 10 years. He h

Blogger Known Well in Politics Turns His Attention to Attack on Obama Campaign
August 30, 2007

The operative behind it is Joe Novak, 54, a consultant whose colorful history in Illinois politics earned him the nickname Low Blow Joe. A Chicago Sun-Times columnist once wrote that if dirty tricks were an art form, “Novak would be Renoir.”

...Although he has been a consultant for many politicians over the years, including Walter F. Mondale, the 1984 Democratic presidential nominee, and Mayor Richard M. Daley of Chicago, Mr. Novak said in an interview that lately he had been working almost exclusively for Mr. Rooney. His projects, he said, involve exposing inequities in health care that result in poor people’s being denied medical treatment or gouged by insurers and hospitals, topics of interest to Mr. Rooney, who champions medical savings accounts as an alternative to conventional health insurance.

In the 2004 presidential campaign, Mr. Rooney gave financing to a group, People of Color United, for radio advertisements attacking Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Senator John Kerry, the Democratic nominee, for calling herself an African-American. Ms. Heinz Kerry, who is white, was born and raised in Mozambique. Mr. Rooney, who is white, told The Washington Post at the time that he supported the group, “because the genuine word from the black community should be heard, not white folks saying it for them.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/us/politics/30obama.html?sq=

More about Pat Rooney, who is behind this anti Obama website

Republican Group Chides Democrats With Abortion Ads
Aim Is To Win Minority Voters, But Democrats Cry Foul

By JOSH GERSTEIN
Staff Reporter of the Sun
October 17, 2006

A little-known Republican group that claims to have swayed the 2004 presidential election with provocative radio advertising aimed at black and Hispanic audiences is spending nearly $1 million this year to boost the GOP's chances of holding on to a majority in Congress.

.."Black babies are terminated at triple the rate of white babies," a female announcer in one of the ads says, as rain, thunder, and a crying infant are heard in the background. "The Democratic Party supports these abortion laws that are decimating our people, but the individual's right to life is protected in the Republican platform. Democrats say they want our vote.Why don't they want our lives?"

Another ad features a dialogue between two men.

"If you make a little mistake with one of your ‘hos,' you'll want to dispose of that problem tout suite, no questions asked," one of the men says.

"That's too cold. I don't snuff my own seed," the other replies."Maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican," the first man says.....America's Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

http://www.nysun.com/article/41648

[Tatiana]

18. There was no point in posting that trash on this site.

"And so it begins..."

No, isn't beginning. It began and was debunked last year.

So when someone brings up an abhorrent, swiftboating site like that one, when it has CLEARLY been shown to be false, the intent is CRYSTAL CLEAR.

The innocent "we're only trying to help you prepare" $hit can be saved for the Coalition of the Willingly Desperate.

[ruggerson]

20. So one guy posts it

And you blame Hillary Clinton and all her other supporters, none of whom have anything to do with any of it?

I'm glad I don't have to live with the repercussions of your fucked up logic.

[Tatiana]

26. At no point have I EVER blamed Hillary Clinton for that website.

But as a Democrat, I would NEVER, EVER, post any of the tripe that out there on all the Rose Law, Whitewater, Vince Foster bullcrap, because I'm not going to falsely smear a Democrat.

Like I said, if one is defending the posting of such tripe on this website, then I think the intent and motivation is clear.

[ruggerson]

27. I agree

but there are a lot of Obama supporters who HAVE posted all that and more recently. The same ones who are blaming this site on Hillary.

[Tatiana]

30. Well when you see those posts, simply hit the alert button.

We don't need that sort of $hit on this board regarding either candidate.

[scheming daemons]

31. I'll apologize when Clinton supporters condemn Herman for posting the link in his OP...

Herman is a Clinton supporter.

He started a thread promoting a right-wing hit site.

His thread has received a dozen rec's.

Therefore, at least a dozen Clinton supporters think it is ok to promote a right-wing hit site on DU.

That's not "ONE GUY".


I'll apologize for implicating Clinton when her supporters condemn the use of such sites on DU.

[ruggerson]

33. I have and others have

so where's the apology?

[scheming daemons]

35. Well...

A) Nowhere in your OP do you condemn Herman

B) I'll apologize for implicating Hillary Clinton in the behavior of a sizeable percentage of her supporters on DU....even though we all KNOW that Herman is paid by the campaign, though he'll never admit it.

[billyoc]

21. That piece of shit website is too stupid even for Howard Wolfson. nt

[NJSecularist]

24. I already apologized in Hermy's thread, but I'll do it again

That website is a disgrace and it's just more of the same from the Repugs. What will they stoop to this election?

If Obama wins the nomination, Axelrod and Obama are going to have to play some hardball Chicago politics.

[ruggerson]

25. Very classy

and I think we all agree it's a disgusting site.

[LadyVT]

36. Gross.

[MadBadger]

28. I never believed for a second Clinton would be dumb enough to put that up

I'm only pissed at Hermy.

[ruggerson]

29. That's because you have brains

[Stand and Fight]

34. Disgusting.... Thoroughly disgusting.

You'd have to be pretty damn stupid to fall for this nonsense. Good grief. I feel like I need to take a shower after watching that bullshit.

[avrdream]

38. Thanks, rugg.

I said it was probably a Repug in the other thread.

Good luck on getting apologies, though.

[Little Star]

39. k&r

[Vinca]

40. Why is this a surprise?

The Republicans are in a panic. They thought Hillary was a sure thing (as did Hillary) and never contemplated real competition for their party's candidate. Of course they have to bring down Obama. Hillary will unite the Republicans behind McCain, Obama will steal some of his votes.

[Guava Jelly]

41. Of course it is

so lets all keep spamming it here on DU.
You know by any means necessary and all that.
Lets all snatch defeat straight out of the jaws of victory.