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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:12 AM
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Clinton FREELY Used Canadian Investment Banker's Plane (Giustra's), Opened Doors for Mineral Deals
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080219/pl_bloomberg/akd3k5dmu3sy

Bloomberg.com
Feb 19, 2008

On June 21, 2005, Bill Clinton flew to Mexico City aboard a private jet that belonged to a Canadian investment banker he was meeting for the first time. The introduction paid off for both men. Clinton was borrowing the jetliner to begin a four-day speaking tour of Latin America that would pay him $800,000. Frank Giustra of Vancouver was forming a friendship that would make him part of the former president's inner circle and gain him introductions to presidents of Kazakhstan and Colombia, where he bought mineral rights.

Giustra, 50, has since put his plane at Clinton's disposal at least a dozen times to raise money for charity, his wife's presidential campaign or himself, according to U.S. flight records and spokesmen for Clinton and Giustra. The Canadian businessman has become one of the largest donors to the Clinton Foundation, pledging half his future minerals earnings in a way that ties the foundation's success to his own.

``If former President Clinton is making decisions about where to put the charitable efforts of the Clinton Foundation based even partly on where he's likely to benefit personally, or see his friends benefit, then that clearly is a classic conflict of interest,'' says Aaron Dorfman, executive director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy in Washington.

Three months after Clinton and Giustra met, they traveled around the world together on a trip that included a stop in Kazakhstan where Clinton introduced Giustra, who was closing in on a $425 million mining investment there, to the Central Asian country's leader. Giustra made millions on that deal.

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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:48 AM
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1. Clinton introduced Giustra, who was closing in on a $425 deal there to the country's leader
Giustra made millions.

I dare say Bill Clinton benefits in this quid pro quo with more than a free jet at his disposal.

The more I hear about Bill Clinton the less I respect him.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 AM
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16. Bill cashed in. Big time. Hill was in on it.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:53 AM
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2. Vinod Gupta...
... know all you can about him and his ties to the Clintons by this Sunday.

- Dave
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:53 AM
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3. Bill Clinton's not running.
:boring:
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:55 AM
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4. You need to tell him that...lol
I disagee..he's constantly talking about what he did when he was president...so yeah..I think he's running for another term..
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:55 AM
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5. He's been playing too much mulligan - er, golf n/t
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:02 AM
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6. You're 100% correct...
and as we know, spouses have no affect on a presidential administration. They are relegated to the background (Shaking hands, Tea, and photo ops) and aren't given any role in shaping policy, so we wouldn't have to worry about it if a Clinton spouse ended up with a conflict of interests since they'd have no substantive input. Now if, hypothetically, such a spouse were to have a more active role, it would be of interest if there were any potential conflicts.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:03 AM
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7. No WAY! Look at him bickering with the audience, this is for The Clinton Political Legacy!
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:05 AM by ShortnFiery
:eyes:

I'm a ultra-liberal practicing Catholic, albeit one who's admittedly not a ideal model of one. :blush:

However, I'm here to tell you that Bill Clinton yelling at the anti-abortion woman burned some bridges with MANY people who truly "respect the separation of Church and State" BUT (and this is really important) work under the surface to help build young people's belief in themselves so they will not put themselves in a position to get an abortion.

I'm truly left of center politically. Yet, I PERSONALLY, not unlike Senator John Kerry, do not believe in abortion. BUT I WOULD NOT EVER choose to legislate morality. The difference between conservative and liberal Christians is that of "true choice." If you truly believe in wanting to be "Christ-like" then legislating (forcing) your will upon others is a non-starter.

We must help young people make the right choices for THEMSELVES. I can't control my teenage daughter much less believe that we should legislate morality.

Back to my overall point: Bill Clinton's combative interaction with this anti-abortion heckler is NOT winning him any true "I genuinely care about lessening the need for abortions" IMPRESSION by liberal Christians that he understands our dilemma. :(
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:51 AM
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15. hes just using his connections for free jet travel for Campaign
:spank:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:22 AM
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8. Well, since Kenny Boy Lay is dead, and Enron is out of business, she had to go with this guy.
You wouldn't want His and Her Royal Clinton to fly commercial, or, God Forbid, pay for it.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:23 AM
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9. Trust me. Vinod Gupta will be a household name - like Ken Lay - quite soon, much to the Clintons'...
... chagrin.

- Dave
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:24 AM
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10. Bill Clinton: $40,000,000 in speaking fees in 6yrs --- something's not right about that.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:57 AM
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19. .
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:24 AM
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11. Bullshit!!! Hillary has already been vetted!
No new scandals!!!

:rofl:
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:40 AM
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12. We all know all there is to know about Bill, Hillary, and Vinod Gupta, right? Right?
:rofl:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:48 AM
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13. Kick
:kick:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:50 AM
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14. and to campaign for Hillary! thanks to Uranium deal
So do we want to have Bill generating more scandals to destroy the democratic party with once
he (I mean Hillary) is in office???

More scandal?

Meanwhile the bull shit fake plagiarism scandal is being used to distract the media
from the real news, Hillary's crooked campaign finances, and Bills/Clinton Campaign conflicts of interest.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 AM
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17. Odd, dozens of Rezco threads infest this place and yet the real dirt on the Clintons
doesn't really flourish.

Kind of proves how fucked up Hillary supporters are.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:29 AM
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18. Keep a weather eye on your TV set this Sunday. Clintonites who don't ...
... know how to weather a data storm are going to get a real lesson.

- Dave
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