Are We All going To "Forgive & Forget" For Flaming Each Others' Candidates After The Primaries?

[Dinger]

I guess I'll have to. Doesn't it feel great to be punked out?:sarcasm:

[RBInMaine]

1. Yes.

[MNDemNY]

2. That is what we (Democrats) do, nothing new.

[Beacool]

3. Not me!!!!!

I've already said that if Obama is our nominee I'm staying home in November and I meant it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. hey hoboken....I am from hoboken too!

[Beacool]

16. Really?

For such a small town we really get around, don't we????? LOL!!!!

:hi:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

25. my hubby has been a Capt'n on the hoboken fire department for 39 years.He just retired last week

I am so ready to travel!

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[Beacool]

48. Congratulations!!!

The firefighters are a group of people I truly admire.

Did you read the NY firefighters endorsement of Hillary? It was the only endorsement given to any candidate this election that actually had me in tears. As someone who was coming out of the PATH train underneath the North Tower that morning on 9/11 when all hell had already broken loose, I know perfectly well the sacrifices made by the firefighters on that terrible day. So, I was moved to tears when they endorsed her explaining their reasons for doing so and finished by stating:

"She's our hero".

It still makes me want to cry!!!

[UALRBSofL]

43. ElsewheresDaughter After seeing that mailer

That the Obama camp sent out encouraging republicans to vote for him, I'll think long and hard. I do know the Hillary supporters should be made aware of this. It's not right, in my opinion.

[angie_love]

31. I agree, I will probably stay home in November if Hillary is the nominee

And I'll convince all my friends to stay home too, not that they need convincing, they can't stand her already.

[Alexander]

52. Good. Then you will be gone from DU in a couple of months.

Take your ball and go home, you whiny baby.

[Sapphocrat]

58. A perfect example...

...of the reason it will be impossible to simply "forgive and forget," and then sit in a big circle, hold hands, and sing "Kumbaya."

[Raine]

67. The poster can still come here

they just have to keep their "mouth" shut about not supporting the candidate, they can discuss other stuff.

[ZombieHorde]

63. You could at least support a lonely third party.

Or you could have fun with it by writing in some really funny name. Something so ridiculous that you feel funny turning in the ballot. If you don't turn at least a little red then maybe you didn't do it right.

On a more serious note, there may be local issues on the ballot that need your support.

[nomorewhopper]

4. Each day we have two candidates going negative, the divisions become deeper.

When people say "XYZ candidate is going to split the party in two" and "if XYZ doesn't step down, the party will split", this is what they mean will happen.

The party is turning against itself.

You are witnessing the tip of the spear at DU, people are choosing sides and many across the country will never accept the other candidate

[Blue_State_Elitist]

5. It will be difficult for me.

I suppose I would end up putting a check next to Obama's name but only because of my hatred of John McCain. Obama's supporters have really turned me off of national Democratic politics.

[Exilednight]

20. Obama's supporters, or Obama?

I can rest my choice for not voting for Hillary square on Hillary's shoulders.

It's fine if you have a policy issue, or if you believe that Obama did something against your better ethical or moral judgment, but you shouldn't use the excuse of hating him by blaming something that Obama didn't do. I've seen Obama hate sites put up by Hillary supporters (and I am sure some exist in the opposite context) but they aren't the reason I refuse to vote for Hillary. Hillary is the reason I refuse to vote for Hillary.

[juajen]

6. Not me.

[blocker]

7. Yesterady was the last straw for me

what happened yesterday, clinton has been taking words of other politicians for years, and to go and accuse the other camp of plagiarism, wich is a very serious accusation, i will never in my life vote for another clinton, i have enough. i hope that an independent will run for the presidency.

[Lisa0825]

9. I won't be emptying my ignore list.

The ones I put on it were really the worst. Most folks I can just chalk up to "the heat of the moment," but there are a few I have no desire to "make nice" with.

[LostinVA]

11. Exactly

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. ditto to whatever the ignored one above said

:shrug:

[Eurobabe]

21. I have 110 people on mine

:rofl: most of them newbie freepers.

[Cameron27]

23. I feel the same way.

[Guava Jelly]

10. I will

I don't hate anyone now.
A few here are totally nuts..(but I like nuts)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

12. that is a gonna be a VERY HARD SWALLOW.....

Obama peeps have stumped on some really old DU chests

[Pathwalker]

33. Worse, we have been told to go to retirement homes,

and step aside - we're not needed or wanted anymore. We're tooo old to matter, anymore!

[Beacool]

45. Well, if I'm too old then so is Obama

since I'm his same age. Maybe precisely because I am his age is the reason that I can see right through him and his empty rhetoric. I'm not bamboozled by a smooth talker, I'll leave that to the very young.

[MethuenProgressive]

14. As my Penobscot grandfather used to say:

"You never forget where you buried the hatchet."

[goldcanyonaz]

17. So true. How can one really forget any of this?

[harun]

15. I don't know yet (n/t)

[RandomKoolzip]

18. I have one person on my ignore list, and it's not for a political disagreement.

In any case, after the convention I'll be glad to vote for either Clinton or Obama, and happy to join in supporting either along with my DU sistren and brethren.

If you're so emotionally invested in the DU experience that you'd let the primary wars taint how you feel about a candidate, you really should get another hobby that better accommodates your fragile sensitivity.

[Pathwalker]

19. I don't think so. Barack doesn't need or want us anyway.

I've read this on DU enough to believe it now - he has all those Republicans and Independents, so he doesn't need life-long Democrats like me and my family to support him, or volunteer. How many times do we have to be told we're not necessary or wanted, before we accept it as fact?

[LostinVA]

22. I'm irrevelant to Senator Obama and his supporters for several reasons

I'm technically a Baby Boomer, I'm gay, I'm an "old school" feminist.

I'm also apparently a troll, Freeper, racist, and homophobe.

[Pathwalker]

24. You forgot paid "Hillary shill".

I'm a Boomer, an "old school feminist" and pro-gay rights, AND a "paid Hillary shill" as well. How does one handle being a gay homophobe? How does that even work? :rofl:
I'm also unwilling to see gays thrown under the bus - if we allow discrimination against anyone, we'll allow it for everyone. :hi:

[LostinVA]

26. I'm not quite sure how I am, either -- it was all very confusing

Oh, and I found out today that I'm also "pro genocide."

[Pathwalker]

30. How did you manage THAT?

You are a very, very busy and complicated person! I take it the name-calling and bullying doesn't work on/for you either?

[LostinVA]

44. Nope, sure doesn't

[Sapphocrat]

61. Ha Ha! I have both you and LVA beat!

In addition to ALL of the above, I'm not a Christian! And I'm partnered with an atheist!

Beat that!

:rofl:

[Iceburg]

38. LostinVA, We'll either have to form a self-help group ...

or try some of that Obama-McClurkin ointment. :-)

[Hoof Hearted]

49. Save me some room under the bus for me, ok?

Because the cost of getting on that bus and taking a seat is too high. I won't be surrendering my will or my ability to reason just so I can get taken for another ride.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. that's what I have learned here too

[Renew Deal]

29. Wrong

It's Hillary's campaign that calls you second class. It's Hillary's campaign that's talking about thwarting the will of the poeple. Obama wants you AND everybody else.

[Pathwalker]

32. Obama's supporters have said differently many, many times.

Am I wrong for taking them at their word? Some of those posts are from DUers who have been here quite a while. We've been told to leave the board, "be respectful of the majority, and to accept our minority status, and other things as well. I'm really starting to believe they are deadly serious.

[Renew Deal]

34. Prove it.

Show me who's telling you that they don't want you. Also, his supporters are not his campaign. Also, some Clinton lover just posted that he wanted to "purge" DU. It goes all ways. If you want to know what Obama's supporters or campaign are like, get involved in their communities. I've met many supporters in person and they are wonderful people.

[Pathwalker]

35. Geez, can't you just read? They're all over this forum!

I've been at DU for years, and I've never seen such acrimony and hate between fellow Democrats. And anyone who wants to purge DU, regardless of which candidate should just stop it! Several Obama supporters in my life ARE decent, kind, life-long Democrats, but some of the people here - on both sides - are stone assholes. Pardon my language, I don't like the name-calling, but it's true.
If you can't take a long-time DUer at her word that these things have been posted here, then the divide truly is too wide to cross. I am partially blind, and I can't see well enough to research who says what on every post. Besides, I put those posters on ignore so I don't have to read that crap anymore. You might also note that I don't call Obama supporters anything but...Obama supporters.

[Renew Deal]

37. I believe you.

I know some rough stuff has been said, but it's not limited to Obama. The primaries on DU are always rough. They were brutal 4 years ago. I can't imagine this dragging on for another 2-6 months. It can't sustain itself.

The roughest times I remember on DU was 2004, 2008, and when Israel bombed Lebanon. We survived 2004 and the Israel thing. We'll survive this. It's important to not take things to seriously.

[Pathwalker]

40. Thank you! And I agree that both sides have said some

really terrible things. The only good news for me is that my upcoming eye surgeries won't allow me to read DU for quite a while, and I must confess that I won't miss it. It's just that as of right now, I feel rather singed, and bullied. Maybe, by the time I come back -IF the surgeries work- the decision will be made and this acrimony will have departed. I remember 2004, but I don't remember it being this bad, but you may well be correct.
Anyway, keep up the good fight, and please tell others - we all don't want crazy McCain in charge.
Peace. :hi:

[Renew Deal]

41. lol

That's horrible and hysterical all at the same time. I wish you the best for your surgery. :pals:

[Renew Deal]

27. Ultimately, yes

barring even more damaging behavior.

[theHandpuppet]

36. I don't think so, unfortunately

Because over the past several weeks my eyes have truly been opened to a level of homophobia and sexism I never imagined could exist here at DU. It appears it was there all along but this primary contest simply opened the floodgates to an outpouring of repressed bigotry. I have never seen such a display of hatred and bigotry as I have witnessed on GD: P. Right now I'm debating whether this is a forum where I can ever feel, again, a sense of belonging with fellow "Democrats".

[Stinky The Clown]

39. Awwwww .... poor you. Not feeling the love?

:sarcasm:

Seems like lotsa people aren't. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4655230

[RiverStone]

42. Yes.

In the end, almost every Hillary supporter I have debated has expressed an OK to vote for Obama.

So we will all be on the same side soon enough.

No hard feelings - it's the primaries!

[Beacool]

46. I guess we are talking to different Hillary supporters, plenty here in Jersey and

even a larger group in FL have said that they would not vote for Obama. Some have even surprised me by saying that if Obama is our nominee then they'll vote for McCain.

BTW, the longer the party continues to disenfranchise FL, the better McCain will do in that state. Mark my words and remember them in November.

Since I don't owe the Democratic party a blessed thing, I'm just planning to avoid voting altogether.

[RiverStone]

50. Then you are passively supporting the war mongering pukes....

Either of our candidates beats another 8 years of Shrub's disastrous policies.

And if you can't see that, I have no idea why you'd even be on DU?

[Beacool]

51. I'm a lifelong Democrat,

but that doesn't mean that I have to blindly vote for a nominee who I don't like nor think is ready to be president.


:shrug:

[redqueen]

47. Yes.

Punked out? What do you mean by that?

[IdClaire]

55. I'd like to know too, Punked out?

?

[Cheeseburger Walrus]

62. Punked Out...

They all seem apropos, yet ultimately boorish.

Try this on for size:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked

[IdClaire]

64. if it means tricked

I don't get it. Who's tricking who?

[Cheeseburger Walrus]

66. Perhaps it is a reference

to the fact that regardless of you're choice, in the end, we have been eating our own.

[THUNDER HANDS]

53. of course...does anybody take this stuff seriously?

I mean, I want Obama to win, but it's not like I want Hillary ridden out of town on a rail.

[Carolina]

54. Hell no,

not ever. I think Clinton is slime. I am a lifelone Dem (since 1960) and I will never vote for HER, ever.

Flame all you want. I really don't give a rip.

She's a liar about Iraq. She's conniving, calculating, deceitful and despicable.

I loved the Clinton's in the 1990s, ardently supported the Big Dog here in the South. But lately, I have come to believe that some of the right wing bile against them, yes them, had some truth to it!

[redqueen]

60. Just don't complain when the SCOTUS gets worse.

[IdClaire]

56. 3rd candidate Bloomberg?

I know he ran as a Republican but doesn't he have a lot of Democrat qualities, like pro choice, pro gun control?

[Politicub]

57. Most likely

But the treatment that Clinton is getting on DU depresses me and makes me want to stay away.

[Beausoir]

59. I'll have to think about that.

[TheWebHead]

65. this place has been a sewer for the past month

it's a good thing nobody sees each other's faces, which should make it easier to move on.

[leftofthedial]

68. Fuck you.

I plan to hate everyone who ever posted here for either candidate forever.

BTW I plagiarized this post.





:sarcasm:
:hide:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

69. In a couple of weeks, we'll all be cultists.

And we can either work to defeat McCain, or gtfo.

[Raine]

70. Truthfully no. I have lots on ignore and

they will stay there. Some of them were posters I really liked that go back to us supporting the same candidates in previous primaries. I've seen a very ugly rude side of them and don't want to ever interact with them again.

Hillary's rude supporters here won't effect my vote in the GE. It's Hillary and the Clintons all on their own that will effect whether or not I can hold my nose tight enough (if she gets the nom) to vote for her. I will follow my conscience and do what is best in the long run for the Democratic Party. At this point though I'm thinking that another Clinton in the Whitehouse will do more harm than good to the party for decades to come.

[LiveLiberally]

71. As a relative newbie I find the thought of a mass exodus of the disappointed very sad....

but perhaps necessary? Have so many of you truly become so antagonized by this primary, so fundamentally alienated from the broader interests of the democratic party, so unconcerned that your disaffection may help precipitate another 8 years of Republican control over the White House, that you cannot contemplate voting for the democratic nominee if it's not YOUR candidate? If this is truly the case, I can only hope for a quick end to this inter-party fist fight and a chance to rally the democratic faithful to the real fight ahead -- Victory in November.