MSNBC Hosts Founder Of Anti-Hillary Group "C.U.N.T."

[CatWoman]

I wonder how many of you belong to this group?

As is his wont, the little watched and seldom heeded Tucker Carlson continued to pursue his "hurt America" agenda last night on MSNBC, when he once again invited the so-called wisdom of "legendary Republican strategist" Roger Stone. The topic: how would Republicans take the attack to the Democratic nominee?

There wasn't anything particularly groundbreaking to Stone's analysis: whoever the nominee would be would end up being painted as a liberal, George McGovern would be invoked, and of course, the wild insinuation that voting Democrat is a de facto death sentence for the nation at the hands of jihadists would be made. Along the way, Stone got to call Hillary Clinton a "hack" who "believes in virtually nothing," and, with regards to Obama, Stone got to raise the specter of "assassination." Real authoritative, responsible stuff!

Nevertheless, the stunning disingenuousness of the conversation was enough to inspire a fountain of gorge. How will Republicans attack the candidates? Well, in the specific instance of Roger Stone, the answer is: start a juvenile, anti-Hillary 527 organization themed around a vulgar term for female genitalia (cf. Jane Fonda). That any credible news organization can continue to give wide audience to Stone's wisdom without disclosing his involvement in the campaign season's most brazen obscenity is beyond reason.

Ironically, the one employee at MSNBC who's evinced a willingness to challenge Stone on this regard is David Shuster. The cable news network was without his services last night.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/19/msnbc-hosts-founder-of-an_n_87356.html

[Parche]

1. Where Did They Snatch That Name From?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:hi:

OH MEOW

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

7. its the "right wing pap smear" machine

:rofl:

[CatWoman]

23. LOLOLOL!!!

:thumbsup:

:rofl:

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

33. I'll second that...

:spray:

[ronnykmarshall]

60. They are trying to "box" us into a corner.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

76. Sounds like they muffed it.

:hide:

[ronnykmarshall]

96. Probably headed up by some guy name Cooter!

[Emit]

81. ROFLMAO

hilarious response

(For the record, reprehensible subject matter in the OP, however)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. No you didn't!

Oh, yes you did! :spank:

:rofl:




****Humor Impaired Disclaimer****

My laughter is at Parche's wit, not the disgusting hate group.

[CatWoman]

63. ain't nothing but a g-thang, baby

:hi:

:)

[Democrats_win]

2. How 'bout those family values! These people are p.u.k.e.

[Tatiana]

3. Loathsome.

Ironically, the one employee at MSNBC who's evinced a willingness to challenge Stone on this regard is David Shuster. The cable news network was without his services last night.

I guess you win some, lose some.

[City Lights]

59. More on that point from the NYObserver:

MSNBC’s David Shuster: Defender of Clinton Family Honor?

BY FELIX GILLETTE | FEBRUARY 13, 2008 | TAGS: MEDIADAVID SHUSTERMSNBC
This article was published in the February 13, 2008, edition of The New York Observer.

It was a little before midnight on Tuesday, Jan. 27 that MSNBC correspondent David Shuster hit the “Send” button on a curt e-mail to Republican rabble-rouser Roger Stone.

Days earlier, Mr. Stone and others had filed papers with the I.R.S. to form a “527” organization dedicated to educating “the American Public about what Hillary Clinton really is.” The organization was called “Citizens United Not Timid,” i.e., C.U.N.T.

“Hey Roger Stone,” wrote Mr. Shuster in an e-mail to Mr. Stone’s personal Web site, the Stone Zone. “Why not put your own name on this?”

Mr. Stone was in no mood to take flack from an uptight reporter unable to take a joke. Mr. Stone felt the suggestion that he was hiding behind the site was ludicrous. After all, he had invited reporter Matt Labash of The Weekly Standard to sit in on the organization’s planning meeting.

The next afternoon, he responded. “Hey David Shuster,” Mr. Stone wrote back. “I in essence did when I let the entire planning meeting be on the record for a reporter.”

From there the confrontation fizzled, leaving Mr. Stone, weeks later, wondering what motivated Mr. Shuster to e-mail him about C.U.N.T. in the first place. Was Mr. Shuster working on a story? Or was he acting out of—irony alert!—indignation on behalf of Hillary Clinton?

It would be ironic because, two weeks later, while filling in on MSNBC’s Tucker program, Mr. Shuster himself used saucy language to refer to a lady Clinton when he suggested Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was “pimping” her 28-year-old daughter, Chelsea, who traveled extensively across the country with her mother during the early primary season.

more... http://www.observer.com/2008/msnbc-s-david-shuster-defender-clinton-family-honor

[Tatiana]

66. Yep. I think this is another instance of the Clinton camp shooting themselves in the foot. n/t

[City Lights]

73. She's gotten a lot of mileage out of spanking Shuster though.

They've really sucked up to her. Today alone I've seen Wolfson on numerous times pushing the plagiarism story. And they continue to discuss it with or without Wolfson. It's all the rage on MSNBC. :eyes:

[eyeontheprize]

78. Forgive me,

but Tucker's allowing Stone as a guest is far more offensive than Schuster's poor word choice. The fact that Hillary let's this one pass speaks loudly to which constituency she is truly fearful of offending.

[BootinUp]

111. I don't follow you

you are suggesting that Clinton is somehow responsible for MSNBC allowing that asshole on tv?

[buff2]

4. This is the rightwingnuts version of "honor,integrity and family values"

God,I detest those phoney people with a passion. I don't understand how Hillary can tolerate all the hatred and name calling.....from BOTH sides.

[Teaser]

5. So is Roger Stone done still pimping his wife out to other men?

If I recall he was big into that.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

I imagine that Hillary is in tears over this

but its a right winger, so what?

She's tough, she's vetted, she expects the right wing smear machine right?

[Maccagirl]

6. Is this the same Roger Stone that got the heave-ho

from the Dole campaign in '96 when it was learned that he and wifey belonged to a on-line sex club?

[HeraldSquare212]

29. He's also been accused of threatening Spitzer's father

This guy is just a washed up nobody looking for a payday on Hillary-hate.



Political Consultant Resigns After Allegations of Threatening Spitzer’s Father
DANNY HAKIM and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE

Published: August 23, 2007
ALBANY, Aug. 22 — The Senate majority leader, Joseph L. Bruno, forced one of his top political consultants to resign on Wednesday after allegations that he left a threatening telephone message at the office of Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s father.

The consultant, Roger J. Stone Jr., continued to insist that the recorded message — which was made public by lawyers representing the governor’s 83-year-old father, Bernard Spitzer — was not authentic. He said allies of the governor had plotted against him, though an alibi he offered in a statement on his Web site appeared to be problematic.

-snip-

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/23/nyregion/23stone.html

[eyeontheprize]

79. He was also the mastermind

behind Rathergate. He was a teen when he started his career in Nixon's dirty trick's campaign. His genius rests almost entirely on the fact that his victims roll over.

[MissMillie]

100. sure looks like it!

?click

[Hoof Hearted]

8. well.

[Skidmore]

9. Well.

first, who watched Tucker? Second, why is Schuster not there? Schuster was taken out because an apology wasn't enough. Sometimes you pick the glass with poison in it.

[Hoof Hearted]

12. jinx!

[Skidmore]

17. What happened?

[Hoof Hearted]

30. same post title, same time.

different content. :-)

[fenriswolf]

10. whats the acronym stand for? I cant find it anywhere.

[Occam Bandage]

16. Citizens United Not Timid.

[ZinZen]

114. Why am I not surprised that they would resort to this?

[dchill]

19. I think it's...

"Citizens United Never Timid." Their brains probably hurt somethin' fierce after comin' up with that.

[jkshaw]

11. Ugh.

[dchill]

14. Carlson and Stone both remind me...

of an old descriptive phrase from long ago - "He's enough to gag a maggot."

[LTR]

15. I hope the wingnuts does this

Then there will be no way in hell any self-respecting woman would ever vote Republican again.

[Occam Bandage]

18. It's truly vile.

[OzarkDem]

20. He's just trying to help Obama

guys gotta make a living.

[rox63]

26. Carlson and Stone have no desire to help Obama

They are just bent on destroying Clinton, like most Repukes. When I first saw an item about this "organization" (several weeks back), I said it was disgusting and despicable. It still is.

[Arugula Latte]

21. Side note: Do the Rethuglicans really think "George McGovern"

carries a lot of weight as a slur, considering a vast chunk of the electorate doesn't remember who he is/was?

[RaleighNCDUer]

68. Well, the DLC obviously does, since their very existance is designed

to prevent another McGovern ever getting the Dem nomination. If it's good for the DLC...

[TexasObserver]

22. Roger Stone is the only man ever diagnosed with Penis Envy.

fuck him

Oh, that's right. No one will.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. I Loathe Tucker

[Maddy McCall]

25. There are definitely Republican Hillary Haters at DU posting under the guise of Obama supporters.

I know this for a fact.

[Occam Bandage]

28. For a fact? Did they let you in the meetings?

[Maddy McCall]

31. It's not that difficult to figure out who some of these people are.

They make it entirely too easy.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. Link?

[Maddy McCall]

38. Not going to get myself banned.

Sorry.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. Ah.

Rather just make false accusations.

OK.

[Maddy McCall]

42. Nope. Not false at all.

It's pretty widely known at DU.

I'm sorry you're out of the loop.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. That's just the kind of argument I'd expect...

from somebody who is or formerly was a member of the Communist party.

[Zodiak]

104. LOL

That was a good one, Hooligan

Hope it wasn't lost on your audience.

[BrightKnight]

115. LOL - Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

There are limp green sprigs everywhere you look. This forum if full of threads that smell like asparagus.

--
You actually made a baseless you’re a commie assertion.

[anigbrowl]

64. Rumors =/= reporting.

After all, I could say that you are a Republican in disguise, bent on sowing dissension among Democrats. "It's pretty widely known on DU." How owuld this be any different from the baseless allegations you are making?

And for the record, I have nothing to do with and don't support the Republican party. I support Barack Obama because I like him - and while I may comment negatively on the Clinton campaign or platform, I've never done so other than honestly and by explaining my reasons. I am not affiliated with or paid by the Obama campaign or anyone else.

[Forkboy]

70. You're making yourself look a fool.

Lots of things are "pretty widely known" at DU. :rofl:

[Seabiscuit]

77. It is very widely known on DU.

Where have these snarky little critters been?

[Lerkfish]

105. ah, brave, brave SIr Robin, then.

run away! run away!

[Catherine Vincent]

36. Some of you true Obama supporters apparently haven't figured this out. nt

[Cameron27]

34. I believe you.

[Maddy McCall]

40. The ones who use the nastiest Republican tactics...

got my spidey senses tingling.

You know, threatening to save all my posts to a text file to use against me later. Threatening to use another DUer's alleged mental illness in political debates...those kind of tactics.

Lo and behold, I was right.

[Cameron27]

67. I read through that shit Maddy,

and I've also read enough of your posts to know that I can trust your judgement on the situation.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

97. I believe you, and just want to add

Those who live by the Google, die by the Google.

O8)

[UALRBSofL]

41. Maddy it is a possibility

Because the majority of supporters on DU are for Obama like 80%. But in the real world the percentage isn't overwhelmingly for Obama.

[Maddy McCall]

43. Oh, it's a fact.

A verifiable fact.

[anigbrowl]

65. Then verify it - otherwise you're just a gossipmonger.

If it's as true as you say, then you have nothing to lose by pointing out the 'verifiable fact'.

[CatWoman]

69. why don't you get off Maddy's back

I believe her.

as a matter of fact, I've witnessed it.

Who died and crowned you queen???????

[apocalypsehow]

99. I've noticed the Clinton supporters are long on innuendo and "tingly spidey senses"

but notably short on pesky little things like facts, evidence, hard data, stuff like that. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for verification of any kind, save for the comic-book kind.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

48. when accusing other DU members

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Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground.
If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know.

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conservative disruptors, or post messages which spread this type of suspicion.
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[Maddy McCall]

50. I didn't mention any names..

And I didn't say that all Obama supporters are. I said that there are SOME here who are.


There are many Obama supporters I respect. They denounce the tactics used by the shady ones.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

51. if you know what you claim for a fact, you need to follow the rules

which say you report it to the moderator, not sow the seeds of suspicion.

What you are doing hurts the entire forum.

[Maddy McCall]

52. Thanks for the advice, net nanny.

[Whisp]

87. any new links to Obama the 'muslim' for you to open a thread about...

to feign outrage and concern over how 'awful' this kind of 'divisive' talk is. How 'terrible' some people can be, but still have that filth as a title on the front page - which I think was the main purpose of it all.

I wouldn't go accusing anyone else of subterfuge, so 'some people say'.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

53. rules: If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the mode

If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

[Maddy McCall]

54. Again, thanks for the advice, net nanny.

The entirity of GDP is disruptive. Should I alert on every single OP in here?

:eyes:

[RaleighNCDUer]

72. It is equally true that there are Republican 'Hillary Supporters'

posting under the guise of real democrats, in order to stir up dissension between the campaigns and better McCain's chances by enflaming democrats against each other.

I know this for a fact.

The day after McCain wins we will see all the 'Ha Ha' posts, as they reveal themselves.

[yellowcanine]

82. Do you have the list of them right there in your pocket?

[backscatter712]

27. Wow, that's soooo clever!

Turning a misogynistic term into an acronym? Brilliant! It must have taken them all week to think of that! It's hilarious!

/sarcasm off

Geez, I'm an Obama supporter and I'll agree that goes way past the line of good taste.

Scratch that, anyone with any sort of decency at all should agree that this is just disgusting.

[Barack_America]

32. Stone is often on Tucker.

And if you think this C.U.N.T. thing is the first loathsome thing he has ever done, you are sorely mistaken.

[MethuenProgressive]

37. Please. We don't need this stuff here.

self delete, will ya?

[CatWoman]

56. no

[nykym]

44. this is the definition of a 527 group

527 Group – A tax-exempt group organized under section 527 of the Internal Revenue Code to raise money for political activities including voter mobilization efforts, issue advocacy and the like. Currently, the FEC only requires a 527 group to file regular disclosure reports if it is a political party or political action committee (PAC) that engages in either activities expressly advocating the election or defeat of a federal candidate, or in electioneering communications. Otherwise, it must file either with the government of the state in which it is located or the Internal Revenue Service. Many 527s run by special interest groups raise unlimited "soft money," which they use for voter mobilization and certain types of issue advocacy, but not for efforts that expressly advocate the election or defeat of a federal candidate or amount to electioneering communications.

The last line seems to suggest that they are in violation of the code. So why are they allowed to continue to spew thier filth?

[THUNDER HANDS]

46. I've been trying to get into CUNT for years, ever since high school

I thought I got in there in college, but I was rejected quite often.

:(

now that I'm going to be married I find I'm just not as interested in CUNT as I used to be.

:evilgrin:

[electprogdems]

47. why anyone is surprised at the mainstream media's

vulgarity in the name of ratings is beyond me. Ann Coulter called for Jews to be "perfected" and she still gets mainstream gigs.

[David Zephyr]

49. How can NBC/MSNBC/G.E. continue to give Tucker Carlson television exposure?

This was no "accident", but the intentional actions of a rich brat whose father opened every door for him his entire life.

My companion says that Tucker's dad must have some leverage with the network because there is no reasonable explanation of why he is on the air at all. His ratings have never been high and he was fired by CNN.

[Tatiana]

58. I, too, would like to know why Tucker is on television. His ratings are abysmal. n/t

[Thrill]

55. OUCH amazing name

so it starts

[backscatter712]

57. It's something I'd expect to see coming out of the mouths of naughty elementary school boys.

Seriously, C.U.N.T.? That's is incredibly juvenile.

[redqueen]

61. TV news = waste of time.

It's a sad joke.

Olbermann's an exception... but he only proves the rule.

[KoKo]

62. Find...I don't watch much of MSNBC anymore.. The long arm of Jack Welch

and his views seem to be all over that place...also CNBC, these days. Jack Welch apparently told his CNBC crowd that he thinks Obama will be better for Wall St. That might have something to do with their sexist stuff against Hillary. Morning Joe and the Mika paring were the first hint...now we have C.U.N.T. Sounds like Stone worked that one out with Welch.

Still...the Vagina Monologues sort of opened the door for that. And, Jane...she always manages to attract controversy because she is as hated as Hillary by RW Males.

[Perry Logan]

71. We need to declare martial law and put these people in indefinite detention.

[yellowcanine]

83. Who are "we" and who are "these people"?

Just askin'.

[robbedvoter]

74. Free David Schuster! Aw, wait, no one had a beef with him particularly

[MissMillie]

75. Men like that fear emasculation from a strong woman, but the truth is

they never had any balls to begin with.

[yellowcanine]

80. "I wonder how many of you belong to this group? " Nice. Construct strawmen much?

Way to take the high road, CatWoman!

[spotbird]

86. It should be removed.

It's there just to start fights.

[CatWoman]

88. I love the smell of napalm in the afternoon

:)

[yellowcanine]

93. So you are admitting the OP is flamebait then. I wouldn't brag about it if I were you.

[CatWoman]

89. what?

are you a card-carrying member?

[yellowcanine]

91. Since this is 2008, not 1950, I choose to strike a blow for liberty and not answer questions like

that. Have you stopped beating your husband?

[spotbird]

84. MSNBC, Tucker and Stone suck

So does the accusation that those who don't support Hillary agree with them.

The comment that preceeds the article is nothing more than flame bait bullshit. If it's supposed to get Hillary more support it will fail. It might cause people support Obama though, it that the intent?

[CatWoman]

90. you're not making much sense

the comment was mine.

Mine alone.

I stand by it.

I wasn't trying to get her any "support". That doesn't make much sense to me.

How do my comments garner any kind of "support"???

My comments reflect the pile on bullshit that takes place here day after day after day.

So now you're going to tell me that:

1. I'm a rabid Clinton supporter. False.

2. I need to go post in the Lounge. Doubly false.

Yet, that's all I get from you folks when I slap you upside the head with the truth.

[yellowcanine]

92. Well, by suggesting that DUers may be members of this group you do appear to violate rules 3 and 4,

so it should probably not have been posted that way at all, not even in the Lounge. How hard would it have been to leave off the suggestion that DUers are part of this group? It is hardly respectful and it IS inflammatory. Can you argue otherwise?



"3. Civility: Treat other members with respect. Do not post personal attacks against other members of this discussion forum."

"4. Content: Do not post messages that are inflammatory, extreme, divisive, incoherent, or otherwise inappropriate. Do not engage in anti-social, disruptive, or trolling behavior. Do not post broad-brush, bigoted statements. The moderators and administrators work very hard to enforce some minimal standards regarding what content is appropriate. But please remember that this is a large and diverse community that includes a broad range of opinion. People who are easily offended, or who are not accustomed to having their opinions (including deeply personal convictions) challenged may not feel entirely comfortable here. A thick skin is necessary to participate on this or any other discussion forum."

[spotbird]

94. Your comment is divisive flaimbait,

which hurts Clinton's support. There is absolutely no way for me to understand what motivates you, boredom is as good a guess as any.

Regardless of the reason for your behaviour, it's predictable effect is realized.

Our conversation is over. Maybe later I'll repost the article without the insults, it raises good points, which are lost due to the context it was set in.

[spotbird]

85. delete-dupe

[anamandujano]

95. "Those that don't support Hillary" seem to be enjoying it a lot; re-read

the thread.

[Vinca]

98. I don't support her, but I find it disgusting. Is that allowed? nt

[NC_Nurse]

101. YIKES. How can being that disgusting help any candidate but her?

She may get some sympathy because of it. How completely immature and vile.

[Lerkfish]

107. Parlock

I'm just sayin.

[NC_Nurse]

108. Uh...what does that mean?

:dunce: Sorry, I have NO clue...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

102. I didn't vote for her, but I think this is disgusting.

[YOY]

103. Meh...those guys from C.U.N.T. they're all a bunch of pussies..

(Apologies in advance to everyone and everything...)

[Lerkfish]

106. this is beyond the pale

and is reprehensible, as is the accusation that DU members belong to this group.

[cooolandrew]

109. Don't let this thread triggeremotions hide it.

[BootinUp]

110. I am surprised MSNBC stooped that low.

Really, I am.

[Beacool]

112. It doesn't surprise me that Carlson would have Stone on his show!!

Let's not forget that Tucker is the same sexist pig who told Elle magazine that Hillary was his "guilty fantasy" and that she seemed tense most of the time and he thought that he could "help" her.

Ohhhhh, isn't he the good samaritan??????

Misogynist bastards!!!!!!!


:mad:

[NastyRiffraff]

113. Proof that MSNBC & particularly Tucker

will host ANYONE, no matter how vile, to boost ratings. The fact that this jerk was given air time says a lot about MSNBC, none of it good. And it's almost always someone spewing filth about a Democrat.