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Tue Feb-19-08 01:17 PM
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I Could Never Support A Candidate Who Didn't Believe In Hopes and Dreams |
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Fuck that shit. Aren't we the Democratic party?
The party that hopes and dreams of a better life for all people?
The party that hopes and dreams that one day all people will be looked at as equals.
The party that hopes and dreams that one day there won't be a child who goes to be hungry.
The party that hopes and dreams that one day there won't be any more war.
The party that hopes and dreams that one day everyone will have a good paying job with benefits.
Aren't we still that party?
When did we become the Hillary Clinton party?
The party that says, don't hope, don't dream. You'll never get what you wish for.
The party that says, don't try to work with the other side, they hate you.
The party that says, it doesn't matter what red states think, it only matters what blue states think.
The party that says, if you speak eloquently you don't have any substance.
The party that says, if 16 states are all it takes to win the nomination, why try to get the other 34?
Do we really want to be that party?
Do we want to live in the cold, cynicism-laden world of Republican thought?
Do we dare to dream only when Hillary Clinton tells us it's okay to do so (like when we imagine the first female president)?
Fuck that.
And fuck her.
It's my party. My life. I'll dream if I damn well want to. And then I'll wake up and get to work on making those dreams a reality.
Go piss and moan, Hillary. Remain bitter that you never got to complete your 60s-era battles one last time. The world is moving on without you. Dreams are moving on with you. The democratic party is moving on without you.
Just go away. Or better yet, just stay where you are, we'll move away. Like a ship leaving an desert island, we bid you fond farewell.
Maybe one day, many years from now, you'll go to bed wondering why you never became president. You'll be wondering what you could have done differently. Should I have moved to the center here? Should I have moved to the left there?
Ultimately, you'll put your head down on your pillow and imagine yourself sitting in the White House.
You'll dream. Perhaps for the first time. And maybe you'll be happy.
The next morning you'll wake up and it will have all seemed so real.
But it wasn't. Because a dream dreamed by one person is not real. But a dream dreamed by millions is.
And then you'll realize why you didn't win. Because nobody else dreamed your dream.
Goodbye Hillary, it was nice knowing you.
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:18 PM
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1. I'm sure Hillary is fine not having the support from a magical rat. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:19 PM
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2. Most excellent-rec'd! nt |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:22 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:29 PM
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7. They act like Axelrod copyrighted the word "hope" and then moan when called a "cult" |
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:spray:More Kool-aid from the hope-a-dope camp on behalf of the "hope" candidate du jour.
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:46 PM
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12. i'm going to be very, very happy |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:56 PM
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16. I'm going to be very very very happy when my new cold fusion reactor arrives! |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 01:57 PM by billbuckhead
But I'm going to very very very unhappy when Democrats lose decisively a national election that should have been in the bag. All this built up political capital wasted on a limosine liberal vanity candidacy that can only divide America even further. Celebrate now, Republicans have over half a year and unprecedented media power to turn Obama and his movement into a bigger threat to the average American than Hussein and Osama combined.
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:19 PM
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25. that reactor fueled by Uranium from Kazakstan? n/t |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:26 PM
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5. I wouldn't support a candidate that exploits the platitudes of "hope & dreams" |
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to con nitwits into voting for him.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:46 PM
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33. do you really believe that is what he is doing? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 PM
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6. my candidate must believe in hope and change |
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and puppies....and bunnies too...and donny osmond....and other cool nice fluffy stuff....
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:47 PM
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13. your candidate doesn't have to believe in anything |
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she believes whatever you believe. Are you anti Iraq-war? she believes in that position. Are you pro-Iraq war, she believes in that position as well.
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:58 PM
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17. whay do you hate puppies |
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and bunnies....and fluffy stuff....
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:29 PM
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8. Jesus had hope, and Jesus had a dream. |
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Look how well that turned out.
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:50 PM
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15. SPOUTING off again. What do you know about her hopes and dreams??? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:06 PM
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19. hopes and dreams dont matter |
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:15 PM
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22. broad brushing her comments once again i see. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:28 PM
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27. yeah, wouldnt be fair to do that to her. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:09 PM
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20. Clinton is not being touted as holier than thou and a messiah for the people. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 02:10 PM by Straight Shooter
Your "nothing else either" reflects on your candidate's ability to generate hate, not hope.
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:11 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:17 PM
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23. ha ha--guress you have not been keeping up with the press articles. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:26 PM
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26. so your mad at the media? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:31 PM
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10. Hillary has hopes and dreams * |
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to start bringing our troops home in 60 days
to end the war in Iraq
healthcare for every single american
a balanced budget
ending our dependence on foreign oil
a thriving, green economy &
rebuilding the infrastructure resulting in
more jobs for the lower and middle class
better funding for education and educators
better treatment of ALL of our veterans
*just to name a few of her hopes and dreams.
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:32 PM
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11. great post- for the reminder of who we are, and the irony of |
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how destructive and divisive the "Us vs. Them" mentality really is.
Happy to Rec-!
:hi:
peace~
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:48 PM
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14. YOU ASSume she does not have hopes or dreams. silly silly |
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Tue Feb-19-08 01:59 PM
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18. you have misunderstood her |
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Hillary does believe in hopes and dreams.
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Tue Feb-19-08 02:18 PM
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24. time to end the 28 year Dynasty |
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democracy is at risk:
Bush Bush Bush, Clinton Clinton, Bush Bush ..... and??????
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:28 PM
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28. I'm OK with hopes and dreams as long as they are backed up |
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by objective plans that are likely to cause the hopes and dreams to be realized.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:33 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:33 PM
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29. My question about Hillary Clinton is WHY... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 04:41 PM by polichick
Why does she want to be president ~ because it's the next thing on her to-do list, or because she DREAMS of seeing this country reach its full potential???
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:40 PM
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its just another thing to check off the resume
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 PM
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30. Isn't Hope and Change being used to bash the Peace and Love 60s? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:38 PM
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31. the 60s are 40 years ago |
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that would be like someone in the 60s wanting to recapture the magic of the 20s.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:50 PM
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35. Peace and Love are a lot more substantial than Hope and Change. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:01 PM
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36. then again, that was wasn't helped along by those 60s liberals either. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:15 PM
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39. No, despite them. And Iraq will end despite Obama. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:50 PM
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34. Bush hoped to make his buddies rich, and dreamt of pre-emptive war. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:09 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:12 PM
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38. i'm sure you'll get flamed for this |
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but i couldn't agree more
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