is Hillary trying to get PLEDGED delegates to switch?

[mkultra]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html

Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign intends to go after delegates whom Barack Obama has already won in the caucuses and primaries if she needs them to win the nomination.

This strategy was confirmed to me by a high-ranking Clinton official on Monday. And I am not talking about superdelegates, those 795 party big shots who are not pledged to anybody. I am talking about getting pledged delegates to switch sides.

[lapfog_1]

1. That's the rumor

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4657622

But I haven't seen confirmation yet... and, apparently, Hillary's campaign has issued a denial.

[meow mix]

2. just confirmed on msnbc. hillary will go after Iowa pledged delegates march15th

they added no one will be paying attention.

[Tarc]

5. Yes, because anonymous sources are always rock-solid reliability

:eyes:

Get a grip, fantasy man.

[meow mix]

8. it wasnt anonymous it was televised interview

hillary campaign says cauacus state pledged delegates are open season.

[Tarc]

10. You are lying through your goddamned teeth

Read this

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/clinton_spokesperson_we_will_n.php

and then zip it, please.

[meow mix]

14. think that if you want, but its what is being reported

im just watchin the tube lol

[Tarc]

15. Try thinking for yourself for a change, it'll do wonders

[lapfog_1]

21. Which network, what show...

are there links to web sources (video from the show, preferably).

This would be a huge story... and flies in the face of the denials issued by her campaign.

[meow mix]

other people saw it too

heres another thread..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4662032

[Tellurian]

13. Here is a statement released by the Clinton Camp..

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/clinton_spokesperson_we_will_n.php

[jillan]

25. Here - I'll post the quote for those that are too lazy to click

"We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It's now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions."

from the Hillary camp

[anigbrowl]

30. Be clear about what intentions?

Just askin'. Sounds like damage control to me - maybe within 48 hours they'll be saying 'Barack Obama refuses to rule out chasing Hillary's delegates.'

[MonkeyFunk]

3. No

already denied by the campaign.

[meow mix]

4. the campaign just said they can go after obamas pledged delegates in caucus states.

so its kinda true

[yourguide]

16. xoxox

did ANYONE else see this? do we have a video link?

[meow mix]

22. i think SoFla was watching... posted this thread....

oops double post, clicked wrong heheh

this thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4662032

[jillan]

6. I have heard the same about Obama.

[tyne]

7. Do you have

a credible link for that charge?

[jillan]

9. Here's one-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/16/obama-team-trying-to-inst_n_87018.html

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) who support Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for president are pressuring their colleagues backing Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), telling them to listen to voters and switch their endorsements

[MonkeyFunk]

11. Those are superdelegates

not pledged delegates.

[w13rd0]

12. Those are SDs...

...the OP is concerning delegates allotted by state caucus and primary. Two completely different fish.

[lapfog_1]

18. uh.. .try again...

that's an article about Obama asking for members of the CBC to switch their endorsements.

All of these would be Super Delegates, not pledged delegate. Super Delegates are not elected to the delegate post, they are appointed by the DNC. They can vote for whoever they want. They are not representing anything to do with the caucus or primary of their home state.

[jillan]

23. But isn't it the Obama campaign that doesn't want superdelegates to count???

hmmmm.

[fenriswolf]

27. no they make the statement that if he gets the popular

vote but hillary wins via super delegates democrats as a whole are disenfranchised because the DNC chose the candidate, not the people. His assertion is that SD should vote with the will of their constituents.

[mkultra]

34. i dont think your paying attention

[daa]

32. You think John Lewis decided to switch on his own? eom

[meow mix]

20. i think SoFla was watching... posted this thread....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4662032

[Tarc]

17. By the way, this has been debunked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4662127&mesg_id=4662127

[cloud75]

19. This is propaganda BS, talk about playing dirty...was this rumor

started by the Nobama camp to make Hillary look like cheater...this campaign is getting disgusting and this why people stay away from voting.

[lapfog_1]

28. No, it was not started by the Obama camp

It's a article in Politico written by one Roger Simon.

Here is the article.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/19/clinton_plans_to_target_obamas_pledged_delegates.html

However, it used unnamed sources and does NOT provide a independent source for the story.

That makes it a rumor, but certainly not a fact.

The Clinton campaign has already issued a denial.

I don't know who Roger Simon is... but I wish some journalistic standards were practiced on these web blogs or zines or whatever the hell they are.

A story like this is a SERIOUS CHARGE, much like the 60 Minute story on Bush's Air National Guard records. Let's hope that this isn't the same kind of hoax, meant to make either Clinton OR Obama look bad.

[cloud75]

31. True n/t

[rox63]

24. Both sides have agreed not to go after pledged delegates

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/clinton_spokesperson_we_will_n.php

Hillary spokesperson Phil Singer is adamantly denying a report this morning in The Politico quoting an anonymous campaign official suggesting that the Clinton campaign will pursue Obama's pledged delegates. Singer sends me this:

We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It's now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions.
It's worth noting that the Politico story quotes a Clinton official predicting that both campaigns will pursue the pledged dels. The Obama camp has not yet put out a statement on whether they'll pursue Hillary's pledged dels, though they very likely will soon.

More in a bit.

Late Update: The Obama campaign has ruled out this tactic, too. Obama spokesperson Tommy Vietor sends me this:

"We would absolutely not use these sorts of tactics. Senator Obama is focused on winning contests and earning the support of pledged delegates."

[Moh96]

26. I am an Obama supporter, I know Clinton's campaign has bees stupid but I don't think that stupid

[Debi]

29. Is that a photo of you in your sig line?

:wow:

[TexasObserver]

33. Translation: She's ready to try bribes with pledged delegates.