Wow! FOUR calls in the last 24 hours from Barack Obama! Hillary=0!

[samdogmom]

I just got the fourth call to my home from the Obama campaign (this was a Michelle Obama call) reminding me to vote today.

This is what troubles me about Hillary's campaign...I am a HUGE Tammy Baldwin supporter. Doesn't Hillary have her list of supporters to call? Tammy endorsed Hillary a few months ago. So far.....I haven't heard a word from the Hillary campaign.

Go figure!

[babylonsister]

1. I can't wait til they start calling me!

I can't even believe TX might actually count for something! :bounce: :bounce:

Congrats! Obama's ground game is par excellence!

[Barack_America]

2. How many times did you hear from actual people?

Just curious how effective Obama's phonebanking is.

[samdogmom]

5. Two actual "people" calls. Two robocalls...

Obviously the Barack call I got yesterday and Michelle's calls were recorded. But, I got two calls from actual campaign workers yesterday and had a "brief" happy conversation with both.

[grantcart]

3. They don't bother to call you because they already have you listed as

a strong Obama supporter. Every campaign now uses the same numbering technique rating 1-4 depth or lack of support. Obama will not be calling Hillary supporters to remind them either. If they had called you after ascertaining you were an Obama supporter that would be a surprise.

[HeraldSquare212]

6. But if she hadn't spoken to anyone, how would they know that?

Do they just use demographics (would they know her demographics?)?

[samdogmom]

7. Ummm! Actually that's not true at all.

I haven't indicated my support for Obama anywhere--because I just came on board. Neither the Hillary, nor the Obama campaign could have known this. I was an Edwards supporter publicly for the longest time.

[grantcart]

39. you were never canvassed in the last 2 weeks?

[samdogmom]

43. NOPE!

[Moh96]

23. I phone banked for Obama and I never saw this 1-4 rating

[grantcart]

40. the rating occurs in the canvassing before the phoning that is

how they decide who to call. They don't want to call Hillary's supporters and remind them to vote

[Maven]

4. So you're upset because you're not getting robocalled enough?

[samdogmom]

9. Not upset at all! Actually just surprised that the Clinton campaign dropped the ball.

I was a very vocal Edwards supporter. You'd think both campaigns would want to court me. I made up my mind without their help, but....give me a break! Hillary's campaign is not producing. Obama's went the extra mile.

[Maven]

12. They went the extra mile by paying for robocalls?

[Enrique]

8. it's probably about money

Hillary has less of it as I understand it.

[samdogmom]

10. Maybe...but I think the callers are all volunteers...so how much money does that take?

Guys, come on, at some point you have to admit that her campaign is not up to the professional level that we need to get a win in November!

[Enrique]

11. can't make that conclusion from his calling you and Hillary not calling you

maybe there's other people that Hillary called and Obama didn't, for example. Another example, the volunteers that aren't calling you are doing something else. Maybe what they're doing is better for her campaign than calling you.

[John Q. Citizen]

15. Do you believe Hill's campaign has been effective?

[samdogmom]

16. Whatever!

Bottom line--Hillary's campaign is lacking. They clearly don't have the important "details" down. They are missing opportunities right and left.

On the other hand, Obama's campaign seems quite capable to me.

I think I'm going to feel better about trusting our country in the hands of a capable leader rather than a hit-or-miss leader!

[Enrique]

45. I don't think there was any chance of their changing your mind

the Hillary campaign is effective enough to know that, and to know that calling you would have been a waste of resources.

[thevoiceofreason]

13. Hillary spending most of her $ on negative attack ads

And consultants

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. did you get these Obama flyers too.....

[bridgit]

17. Hillary called me, it was kinda cool...

I think that Obama having called 4 times indictaes his people are either 'stuffing', or they don't know they've already called :shrug: when I used to do that kind of poli work, we would remove folks from the list we had already contacted.

[Barack_America]

22. The lists are computer generated and people call from home...

So the information regarding who should get called again is only as good as the phonebankers enter it.

In general, if you didn't answer the phone, you can expect to get called again. If you said you were undecided, you can expect to get called again.

I hate phonebanking.

[bridgit]

28. But if you didn't answer the phone, how would you known it was Obama?

Just being a stinker I know, but you'd have to answer and speak to Obama 4 times to know it was him.

But yep, lists are generated from computers alright; but it's the database from which they draw that prints the list i.e. DMV's, voter reg's, donor lists, petitions, stuff like that. What they should have been doing, is give out non-duplicated handfuls of lists to groups that work them, account for them, and then turn them back in to Sups and what have you to determine if any follow-ups are required.

But folks that have already been called should be removed imo

[Barack_America]

33. But what I'm saying is that it's up to the phonebanker to remove them...

So if they "code" the call wrong, that number will remain on the phone list. And basically, unless you say "I'm voting for Hillary 100%", you can expect to get called again. Even if you tell them that you 100% support Obama, you can expect at least one more phonecall making sure you vote.

It's the grassroots, baby.

[bridgit]

37. That was part of my point as well, someone needs to dispense with them...

before repetition in the name of Obama becomes a burden upon the phone answering public. That's what I would do. I suppose it is possible that Obama has contracted out to a less than scrupulous boiler room. Even if a respondent indicated 'undecided', they weren't called backed at the firm I worked for. They were given a light pep-talk, keep it light & airy, "Be sure to consider Obama's vital programs for the future of America." and that was it.

I've seen hard-selling burn out more people than it has persuaded over. Witness: 'the do not call list'.

But oh yeah!! Coding is everything! And if they're working off of paper samples, they can get a bit messy, illegible :( making it all the easier for hard driving boiler room supervisors to just call back refusals, and undecideds

[TexasObserver]

18. They're watching the Soaps at Hillary HQ, that's why.

[Connie_Corleone]

19. Considering Hillary's supporters have pledged to make 1.5 million calls,

they are really dropping the ball.

[nonconformist]

20. Most people don't like getting a bunch of robocalls. nt

[samdogmom]

24. True--for the non-political!

But for people who are identifiable campaign donors, activists and very visible--a robocall is not lost! And, an actual campaign call is welcomed!

So, why didn't Hillary even try????

[kimmylavin]

27. Sorry, no.

I'm very political.
Doesn't mean I want 20 robocalls in the weeks leading up to an election.
Doesn't mean I want to listen to a person tell me why I want to vote for someone as I politely try to get off the phone and spend what little time I have at home with my husband.

I prefer to make my political choices on my own time, based on issues, not phone calls.
(Seriously, it sounds like some sort of high school popularity contest - "OMG! He called me, like, 4 times!")

[samdogmom]

30. Well...I only got two robocalls--one yesterday and one today....So....

I don't think the "20" in one week argument is going to hold. But, thanks for replying.

Just so you know--I made my choices without "popular" opinion playing a part.

[kimmylavin]

35. I said "weeks".

But thank YOU for replying! :hi:

[samdogmom]

38. Peace?

Something tells me we're going to be on the same side soon....

Thanks for replying!

[kimmylavin]

42. Peace.

I just never got this desire for robocalls. :)

I'm on the do-not-call list for my home phone and cell phone precisely because I don't want to be called with either a sales pitch or platitudes. And since they're not under the same jurisdiction, and since I am out there being political, I find myself bombarded with calls about everything from propositions to candidates. I just want my time at home to be undisturbed! :)

I just never saw it as something to be bothered by if a candidate (or one of their representatives) didn't call me. If I've got something to say, I call them...

But yes, overall, we're on the same side. :toast:

[nonconformist]

44. I disagree - if you are political, a robocall isn't going to change your mind. nt

[vireo]

21. I've received several calls and mailings for Clinton

And nothing from Obama. But, then, I'm an AFSCME member.

[DemVet]

25. I got calls during the dinner hour from Obama...

...on two successive nights, that's why he didn't get my vote.

[samdogmom]

26. How many Hillary calls did you get? n/t

[anigbrowl]

29. Yeah, sure. That's the only reason! nt

[DUyellow]

34. LOL, petty reason to cast a vote against him... LOL

[golddigger]

31. Maybe because you are registered as a republican?

:shrug:

[samdogmom]

32. Ha! That's funny!

I would never, in a million years, ever identify myself as a Republican! So good luck with that argument!

You could search the archives of the entire internet and whatever else you desire until the cows come home and never find my name and Republican listed together.

Thanks for the query!

Now I'm starting to wonder if Hillary supporters can ever accept that maybe her campaign has made mistakes! Come on, no one is infallible! Why have you placed her on such a pedestal? She's human. Please accept this fact.

[golddigger]

36. Lighten up, it was a joke. And anyway if she did call you, you would

be posting about how you hung up the phone because she called you during dinner hour or if it was a live person you would be posting how I gave her a piece of my mind.

[samdogmom]

41. Thanks for posting!

Uhhh. If she called--I would have been honored! I truly respect her contributions to our country! But, if it was really Hillary--I would have tried to pose a few questions: Why are we mired in Iraq? How are you going to fix this? Can we get back the BILLIONS of dollars we wasted on this fruitless exercise? and, so forth....

(Robocalls don't count!)