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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:50 PM
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Are any Obama supporters as paranoid as I am?
With the closeness of the WI polls, and the recent bad new for the Obama campaign regarding the supposed plagiarism, and Michelle's unfortunate words going to help lead to his loss in the cheeshead state, and start the momentum back into Hillary's court? This along with the thought of the Clinton campaign playing the "game" in regards to delegates, MI, FL, etc. Or am I just being a nervous ninny? Your thoughts?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:51 PM
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1. What were "MIchelle's unfortunate words" . . . ?? ?? ???
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:53 PM
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6. Something about being proud of America
only now, or some other contrived outrage...
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:01 PM
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19. More like "I've never been proud of America until he ran." or words to
that effect. I'm sure someone can get the exact quote, but that was the gist.

A bit lacking in tact and diplomacy but that's okay she'll make a great first lady (as long as she goes the Laura Bush stepford wife route.)
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:03 PM
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22. You can get the exact quote too, but you didn't bother. Sad.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:22 PM
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50. Here ya go, even massaged by Jake Tapper with an essay .
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/michelle-obam-1.html

Michelle Obama: "For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I'm Really Proud of My Country"
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:03 PM
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23. If I'm not mistaken, the average voter in WI
is a pretty patriotic person, and might not take too kindly to that.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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53. Wow . . .
I'm thinking that maybe for African-Americans, it would be a very proud moment --- and perhaps
the first --- to see a male African-American being taken very seriously as a contender for
president . . . ???

Especially one's husband . . . ???

I gather it hasn't been well-received --- ??




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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:51 PM
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2. You are being waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to nervous...
...calm down...put your feet up...have a glass of something and relax....all will be well..

We got this.

Yes we can.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:54 PM
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9. I'm nervous enough that I'll wait to raise that glass
until Hillary goes stomping off into the sunset.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:52 PM
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3. I'm right there with you.
WI is close enough that it might make a dent. Overall though, I think the Obama camp handled it well by responding quickly and forcefully. I don't think it will cause significant momentum her way because it looks like a last minute cheap shot by a floundering campaign.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:52 PM
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4. I am not worried. If you look at the coverage today it basically was a one-day event. There are now
what, two weeks before Texas? I'd say there is plenty of time to build up more momentum. Don't forget, he is now almost TIED with Hillary WITHOUT STEPPING FOOT on the ground there. I can only imagine what will change once he begins actively campaigning there.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:53 PM
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5. SUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRVEY SAYS.....
nervous ninny.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:57 PM
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13. OK, I'll go with that for now
Thanks for giving me a laugh. :rofl:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:53 PM
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7. I don't think the Clinton campaign can make up their deficit now. nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:53 PM
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8. Maybe you should read this Post in the Obama forum.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:00 PM
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17. Unfortunately, the average voter
votes based on teeeveee soundbites, and hears that Obama's bad for stealing words.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:54 PM
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10. Flash in the pan.
It's a non issue.

Wisconsin is probably going to be very close. It's not winner-take-all, so it'll essentially split even.

Hawaii's going to be a landslide for Obama.

This is just crap circling the drain.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:02 PM
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20. One of the babbling heads on MSNBC
thought that Hillary would be quite close in HI and that was one reason why Chelsea was sent there.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:05 PM
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26. Well we'll find out in a few hours.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 04:06 PM by Bornaginhooligan
But I think if the Clinton's thought that they would have sent somebody more important.
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GPSrulesall Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:29 PM
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52. Apparently
Obama hasn't done very well in luring Asian voters...so we'll have to see if that holds true tonight.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:55 PM
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11. I'm worried about being diebolded than anything that happened the past 48 hours....
...the RW establishment wants to go up against Hillary instead of Obama..... in states without black-box voting, the vote totals have very closely matched the exit polling. In states with large percentages of black-box voting, Obama has typically done 3-5% worse than the exit polling.


Diebold is run by a Republican big-time contributor. Don't put anything past them.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:56 PM
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12. Not if this is the way Clinton "plays the game"
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign failed to file a full slate of convention delegate candidates for Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.


http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_02_17_archive.html#129224423607171512
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:57 PM
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14. Long-term, the trends heavily favor Obama because ....
everyone knows Hillary is the candidate the Republican party is hoping to face, and every last national poll bears that out.

The Democratic party and superdelegates know this, so he'll win in the end, it's just a matter of how bloody it will be. If Hillary wins today, it could get pretty bloody but the end result will still be Obama.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:58 PM
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15. Yes. I can offer you no comfort--I am all pins and needles today. Very anxious.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:00 PM
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16. Not me, the Clinton stunt may sway a few voters but not enough to loose delgates
I am hoping they are smart enough voters that it will turn off some and they will switch their vote to Obama.

The risk of going negative is it casts you negatively also, Hillary already had high negatives.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:00 PM
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18. Just turn on MSNBC where the Clinton surrogates are lining up....
...behind the cameras at campaign headquarters in order to downplay Wisconsin expectations.

They're doing that for a reason.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:02 PM
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21. Might be to create the appearance of a huge comeback later tonight.
I just feel so damn edgy. I hate primary days.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:09 PM
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30. Record turnout...
Just doesn't bode well for them.

I think it's going to be okay.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:11 PM
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36. Unless the dead are voting for Clinton... n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:13 PM
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40. No, they endorsed Obama.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:15 PM
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43. Thanks for the good laugh!!
I needed that! :rofl:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:13 PM
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38. Thanks--been saying little prayers today. Hope God remembers me!
I should check in with Him more often than I do! :-)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:14 PM
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42. Well, that depends. Are you in a state that matters or not?
;)
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:16 PM
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44. I really hope Oregon really doesn't matter
and it's wrapped up long before then.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:19 PM
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47. If Oregon is still in play, I'm ready to volunteer for Obama! I have at least three converts already
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:20 PM
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49. Cool! I've got 2 firm, and a couple of repentant
Reagan democrats as well.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:07 PM
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29. Lowering expectations is a strategic move
in case Hillary wins it, then they can crow about the comeback beginning, and creating the big MO for the next states.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:11 PM
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35. It's also a strategic move...
To blow off another loss.

I think that's what we'll see here. I'm optimistic.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:04 PM
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24. More worried about conservative talk radio pushing WI Republicans to vote for Clinton.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:05 PM
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25. It's good to be a little paranoid.
I have a beer cooling in the refrigerator that I hope I can enjoy while celebrating Obama's victory this evening, but I'm not popping it until the terturns come in showing he's won.

I have champagne too but I'm saving that for when he wins the presidency :-)
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:11 PM
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34. One bottle when he wins the nomination
and one bottle when he wins the presidency, that is my plan.:)
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:13 PM
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39. Almost the same for me
ONe bottle when he secures the nomination, and a couple of cases when he gets it all as we'll have a celebratory party.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:07 PM
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27. As an American I’m getting paranoid...
For the last week all we heard about was how “super delegates” were going to decide our nominee, -and this was all before nineteen primaries took place. ...I believe the Clintons will be our next corporate president(s). They’re preparing us for a wheeling and dealing nomination.

I’m also concerned about how in Harlem NY the primary outcome originally showed that not one person voted for Obama. ...I think we have to keep a close eye on these elections.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:10 PM
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33. In Harlem??????
Something fishy there. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:07 PM
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28. I always wait to the day after.
Being pretty old I knew that the back room stuff is pretty strong in these things. Like to see the end of all that.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:09 PM
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31. Too paranoid about Clinton
Not paranoid enough about the Republicans.

I think the cheeseheads will vote Barack, because a lot of them are hippies. YMMV and all that.


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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:10 PM
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32. I'm always nervous on election day and don't take anything for granted.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:13 PM
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37. Only the paranoid survive.
Larry Ellison, right? Or the head of Intel?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:14 PM
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41. Well, as Barack says, we can't take anything for granted...
But I don't think people are going to be tricked this time ~ YES, WE CAN!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:18 PM
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46. Never underestimate
the gullibility of some people.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:25 PM
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51. Which reminds me of the 100-year war McCain is selling...
It's astounding that there's one single solitary American who would sign on to that!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:17 PM
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45. Channel your concerns into volunteering...
Nothing a little phone banking or lit-dropping won't cure.

B-)

NGU.


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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:19 PM
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48. Plan to help here in Oregon
but for the moment, the best I can do is to keep giving money.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:36 PM
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54. How's that nervousness doing now?
:thumbsup:
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:38 PM
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55. Doing much better now thanks!!!
Hope he carries Hawaii, and then on to Texas, which, hopefully won't count!
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