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Tue Feb-19-08 04:31 PM
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If Wisconsin is close, watch Waukesha County. |
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Waukesha County is the third largest county in the state, with a combined vote haul only slightly smaller than Dane County in a general election. It's 2:1 Republican with very conservative leanings even among many of the Democrats. If there is a large vote in Waukesha it could be critical in swaying the state one way or the other. I've heard stories of a large Republican turnout for Obama in Waukesha and if this proves true it is actually more relevant than stories about Madison turnout which was already expected.
As for Hillary, watch Brown and Rock counties closely. Those are heavily working class counties and if she doesn't do well in them that's it for her tonight.
Those were just some tips for watching the results.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:31 PM
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1. exit polls should be coming in a few hours |
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we'll know lots more then
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:32 PM
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2. a tip of the hat for some actual information |
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:40 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:21 PM
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You guys keep up the good work because I've got about 50 people on ignore. LOL!
Peace :thumbsup:
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:17 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:32 PM
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But really, what are you hearing?
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:32 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:32 PM
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5. is wisconsin an open primary? |
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also, does it allow same day registration/party switch?
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:33 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:35 PM
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i'll be very interested to see the exit polls
i've seen polls preceding the primary that were showing anywhere from a statistical dead heat to a obama blowout. i don't know wisconsin very well and i like hearing news about the makeup of the electorate.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:37 PM
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12. I've been too lazy to check the methodologies... |
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But I suspect the answer is somewhere there. Whether they just surveyed registered Democrats, or Independents and Republicans too, etc.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:44 PM
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29. Yes, Wisconsin is an open primary and you get a ballot with everybodys' names on it. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:46 PM by elocs
Then you vote for one. Same day registration is easy and you do not have to switch parties because you are not required to declare that you are in any party.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:33 PM
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7. What time do your polls close there? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:33 PM
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Hillary concentrated on Brown and parts of Marathon counties looking for working class votes....
Obama was in Marathon too but because of security only met with a small academic group.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 PM
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10. thank you! how refreshing!... |
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a post directed to everybody, without any rudeness, name-calling, blaming, or any other form of verbal abuse.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:38 PM
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13. My husband and I are Waukesha county voters |
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in a very republican area of the county - the lakes area - and we both voted for Obama this morning! I was the 52nd voter in the 3 wards in my line at 7:35. The biggest surprise for me is that the kids in my daughters classroom (5th grade) are all really excited about Obama, I have to imagine some of this represents parents' feelings. Of course, I also know that my parents are all probably voting for McCain, the earth would have to stop spinning for them to vote for a Democrat.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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23. We're in Waukesha also-- |
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My husband was there at 7 a.m. and was #14. I went in at 1 p.m. and was #333. We are a smaller community. There were only a handful of other people there when I was--but I expect it will be getting busy around now, as school lets out and people come home from work.
Two more votes for Obama here.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:27 PM
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33. I think we're very close neighbors |
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I am in "Lake Country", too.
:hi:
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:47 PM
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40. I used to live in Delafield. How about you? Waukesha Dems are more |
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common than people think. 74,000 of us in 2004. Without us it is hard to win the state. :-) We need to keep the Republican margin here under control.
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:11 PM
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42. I'm just one click north |
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:hi: from Hartland!
I always get giddy when I see Democratic bumper stickers here. They're not real common, but not unheard of either.
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:13 PM
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43. My precinct went 75% for Bush in 2004. How did yours go? |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:16 PM
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44. I think about the same. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:19 PM by PeaceNikki
About 67% for Bush in 2004. This area is as red as it gets. Between Hartland and Chenequa and North Lake and on and on and on... the high income here coupled with Sensenbrenner's home and home district make it tough for Dems. I was quite surprised that Bryan Kennedy got as many votes as he did in 2006. Maybe a sign of hope?
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:39 PM
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I appreciate the info! :toast:
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:47 PM
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This is information I've been scrolling through DU for!
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:51 PM
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19. Damn! Usable information. Thank you very much....look forward to following |
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the results now because they'll make a little more sense. You local guys know your state best obviously so your words are valued.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:37 PM
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37. I take pride in knowing my home county, Waukesha, very well. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:18 PM
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48. They say turnout is very low in Dane, due to weather |
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What do you see/hear, Zynx?
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:24 PM
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50. I'm trying to crunch some of the turnout numbers by asking friends what voter number they were. |
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It seems decent, but not overwhelming yet. A lot of students were yet to vote however. Many have late classes on Tuesdays in particular. I've had that several semesters here.
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Tue Feb-19-08 04:56 PM
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Seeing which way Waukesha breaks will be one of the more interesting stories tonight. Both Barack and Hillary spent time in Waukesha over the last week. It was a very clear target county for both of them.
I'll also be interested to see how Dane County breaks. Hillary breaking even in Dane could signal an upset win.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:01 PM
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21. We have friends in Columbia County and it's evenly split |
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among them between BO and HRC...if you can beleive the bar talk! LOL!!!
All kidding aside, Columbia County could also be very telling for results. Being a grad of UWM, I'd vote for Barack since JRE isn't in it anymore.
However, I do have some 'friends' who will only vote for HRC becuase of her name and they want Bill's influence back in the WH and foreign policy to restore some semblance of respect again.
Go Cheezers - show some fightin' Bob spirit!
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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24. That's good news for Barack if true... |
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Columbia, Waupaca, Grant, Chippewaw, Sauk... those are all counties that Obama would like to break even in, because Hillary is betting on these "smaller" counties to help her give enough margins to win the state.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:02 PM
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22. Another key district -- Third District/Chippewa Valley |
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Another key district is the 3rd Congressional District, which encompasses the Chippewa Valley/greater Eau Claire region. (total pop about 150k) This is key swing district; it's gone increasingly democratic in the past decade and is widely credited with WI going Blue (barely) in 2004. Re: Clinton v. Obama, this is a true toss-up district.
On the one hand, there is UW-Eau Claire (10,500 students) and the smaller nearby UW-Stout. Obama held a rally for 3500+ at UW-Eau Claire last Saturday, while Clinton was forced to cancel 2 planned visits. (Chelsea did visit Eau Claire last week however) The campus Obama chapter is very active and even created "Eau-Bama" tee-shirts for sale at the rally. There is also a decent telecom/computer industry around Eau Claire (supercomputer inventor Seymour Cray was born and built his company in Chippewa Falls just north of Eau Claire). These demographics favor Obama.
On the other hand, the greater Eau Claire region has an average household income amongst the lowest in the state. Outside of the greater Eau Claire urban area, there remains lots of dairy farms and other agricultural enterprises. This probably favors Clinton.
Finally, our democratic congressman, Ron Kind, announced that his super delegate vote will be cast for whomever wins his district.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:57 PM
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30. La Crosse is a rather large city in the 3rd district to forget about. |
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Ron Kind is from La Crosse. Our population is 52,000 plus many students. UW-La Crosse has nearly 10,00 students and Viterbo University here has an additional 2700 students. Kerry won in La Crosse in 2004. Last night Michelle Obama was here.
Damn, how can you talk about Wisconsin's third congressional district without mentioning La Crosse?
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:33 PM
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36. My Apologies -- didn't mean to slight La Crosse.... |
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I wrote about what I know -- glad you could add to it.....
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:39 PM
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38. No problem, I was just tweaking you. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 06:41 PM by elocs
On edit, I heard on the local news here that at 1 p.m. there were 50 people in line to vote at UW-L and that many of the students were registering at the polls.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:29 PM
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34. recall that Chelsea was at UW-eau-claire. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:08 PM
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25. For Hillary, Kenosha is big too ... but, I think Fox Valley will be interesting |
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as well as certain areas of and around Madison. In case you didn't see these, I posted region specific news links for WI here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4662337&mesg_id=4662337I found the election/primary blogs particularly interesting.
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:11 PM
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26. Did Barack go to Kenosha? |
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I remember Hillary making a campaign stop at the Brat Shop. As far as I know, Obama didn't.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:25 PM
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didn't follow the stop schedules much.
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:30 PM
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35. he was following Doyle around that area-- |
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:46 PM
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39. Marathon county in the north is also interesting. A relatively big vote haul up there. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 05:24 PM
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28. Anyone have a website where we can check the county by county results? n/t |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:09 PM
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41. You can watch it on CNN. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:23 PM
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49. I got this one from another thread |
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:16 PM
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45. Love the Inside Baseball from Wisconsin! |
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Keep it coming, Zynx. Thank you!
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Tue Feb-19-08 07:17 PM
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47. Thanks for the insider tips n/t |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:45 PM
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52. So far Waukesha going for Obama |
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Waukesha: 46.85% Clinton, 52.46% Obama Brown: 43.56% Clinton, 55.38% Obama Rock: Results not in yet
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:48 PM
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53. Republican cross over. Not surprising. nt |
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54. Wow. You must be psychic |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM
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55. So what can you say about Douglas, Burnett, and Adams counties? |
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I notice Hillary won handily in those counties. What are the demographics in those counties?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:55 PM
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56. I think all of those are in the north |
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all white, lower income, rural...
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:57 PM
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58. Thanks---I was curious. n/t |
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not that big a spread. :shrug:
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:59 PM
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I'm a Hillary supporter, but can't resist.
I see the writing on the wall.
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Wed Feb-20-08 01:51 AM
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60. My guess is that the Democrats in Waukesha went heavily for her. |
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It seems not that many Republicans crossed over after all. Democrats in Waukesha tend to be quite establishmentarian and conservative. That's not a huge surprise. I think the Republican vote probably went for Obama. He stomped in the most Democratic regions of the state. The Republican counties like Waukesha and Washington were closer.
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