Obama echoes Patrick again

[boston bean]

Deval Patrick on June 3, 2006,:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbYFKUsaKpY



Barack Obama on Nov. 2 in Manning, S.C., :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_sApZ4Q9Y


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8594.html

[DJ13]

1. So?

:nopity:

:boring:

[jkshaw]

2. Please give it a rest.

[tabatha]

3. tempest in a tea pot

[scheming daemons]

4. LOL.... you're only hurting your own candidate now....

....the media (and everyone else) is beyond this already.

[boston bean]

7. yeah, let's wait and see. nt

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

61. Or 2008-2012: Hillary fails to pass health care AGAIN (3rd try)

:thumbsdown:

[Thrill]

5. MassDem keep trying

[BlackVelvet04]

6. If Obama wins will they be

co-presidents?

[boston bean]

11. anythings possible right, if we hope hard enough. nt

[jackson_dem]

12. No because Rove, I mean, Axlerod will be the man behind the curtain

;)

Obama-Patrick 08': we fooled you twice, maybe we can do it one more time!

[BlackVelvet04]

18. Aren't his supporters the ones

who talked about how different Obama is?

[jackson_dem]

25. Yup. The very premises of Obama's candidacy have been exposed as a fraud

They know it. Their only hope right now is that the msm let's Obama off the hook again instead of investigating and finding that Obama's slogan-based campaign is entirely the same as Patrick's 2006 one.

Obama himself likes to say he doesn't play the Washington game and says what he thinks. So much for that! :rofl:

[BlackVelvet04]

39. I almost

feel sorry for his supporters. Almost.

[boston bean]

40. I think I do to.

I got so many on ignore though, I can't see the responses.

It's cool though!

B-)

[boston bean]

27. I believe you are correct. nt

[jackson_dem]

8. It's all smoke and mirrors. Axlerod is the man behind the curtain

Thanks for exposing more of how Obama's "movement for change" is an election year fraud.

[cali]

14. You know what bugs me most about the "man behind the curtain"

nonsense? It's such a simplistic, flat earth way of looking at things. Sad, really.

[snappyturtle]

43. I posted this yesterday...it's from 'vinca'.....self-explanatory:

Two can play at this game: blow back can be embarrassing.
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #12
74. Do you feel the same way about this?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Vinca (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
7. Oh, my, lookie what I found -
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:31 AM by Vinca
"As president I know I can't kill, jail or occupy every nation we don't agree with and I cannot just wish that all the terrorists be wiped off the face of the Earth." - Hillary Clinton, 2/10/2007

That sure sounds familiar....

"If you got an interdependent world, and you cannot kill, jail or occupy all your adversaries, sooner or later you have to make a deal." - Bill Clinton, 4/16/2005

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Wait, wait, I know what you're going to say - IT DOESN'T COUNT!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. This is not a big deal at all, but...

I'd have chosen someone that's fairing a little better than Deval Patrick is in his first term of office. Not that it matters in the slightest one way or another.

[BlackVelvet04]

24. Maybe not but it should be....

if I were supporting him I would stop and think hard about just who he really is. I think he's a chameleon.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

60. He absolutely is. So is Hillary.

The only difference is that Hillary's got a couple of decades of track record to base that assertion on. I have few doubts that Obama would/will be in the same shoes as Hillary if he has to run again as a Senator in 2012 or 2016.

[cali]

10. I know you're desperately hoping this will be Obama's downfall

but it looks like you'll just have to live with your disappointment- again.

[jackson_dem]

13. Obamites desperately panic whenever truth about Obama is posted

No one ever argues about his record when it is posted, or in this case, more evidence of fraud.

[cali]

20. Don't be silly. You're projecting wildly like

so many here- on both sides. I don't have any illusions about Obama being so earth shakingly different type of politician. He's simply a politician, and rather a good one. And you need to learn what fraud is; because this isn't about fraud. Hillbots are all so desperate now that the flailing about is just sad. Maybe Hillary can pull it out in Wisconsin, and you'll be able to post a bit more sensibly. Or maybe not.

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[cali]

35. And how on earth would you

know what most people supporting him think? Oh, that's right, you haven't a clue

[jackson_dem]

36. I read what they say

[cali]

38. And most of them don't

believe that Obama is transformational. Not here and not at kos. You don't seem to recognize that you're looking through a lens that's smeared with your own extreme antipathy. As I said, it's sad.

[sniffa]

17. I enjoy that he keeps wasting one of his 3 threads on this crap

Less spam. :bounce:

[eleny]

15. It's 62 degrees here in the Denver area this afternoon

[FrenchieCat]

16. Riddle me this......

Here's a tape of Hillary Clinton using word for word Edwards' line on Blockbusters and Corporations (the video shows Edwards as the original source, and Hillary using the exact same wording a few months later)? Why isn't this news? Why the unequal treatment? Because she says she about solutions? Obama never said he was just about Words....that's what the Clinton camp has been saying.

What Hillary did was much more blatant, and she didn't even get permission!

http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/18/clintons-plagiarism-charge-fal/

[scheming daemons]

28. She won't bother answering.........

....

[GarbagemanLB]

19. Didn't he attribute that saying to Deval in that speech? I want the whole speech.

[boston bean]

22. The one he did attribute was in Dec. '07, not this one in Nov. '07. nt

[GarbagemanLB]

26. So he did! Haha! What a joke you Clintonites are.

[boston bean]

30. you are the joke. why don't you click on the link I provided and read

for yourself he did not attribute this to DP.

This speech was given 1 month earlier than the one in NH where he did credit DP.

So he doesn't credit, then he credits, and then he doesn't credit.

This guy is a sham.

[GarbagemanLB]

33. What about Hillary not crediting Bill for her words during a speech? Or Edwards? Or Obama? nt

http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/18/clintons-plagiarism-charge-fal/

[Maribelle]

48. Hillary has based her entire campaign on issues she is fighting for, her words are mere condiments.

Obama's entire campaign has been based on his words, rhetorical presentation, pumping up the juice. That those words were plagiarized and not his own is of utmost significance, and leaves his campaign just an empty shell.

[GarbagemanLB]

53. Guess you never listened to his 2004 DNC speech, or read his past in the Illinois Legislature. nt

[Maribelle]

58. I've listened to far too many speeches of his that totally lacked substance.

His delivery is not questioned. His lack of substance is. And regardless of how it is spun, I am not impressed at all with his "present" votes on issues extremely important to women, nor impressed with his playing old fashioned politics with his "present" votes when he is continually trying to pump the "change" mantra. Obama does not exemplify change. Obama is the personification of good old smoke-filled back room Chicago politics. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[boston bean]

63. I got a feeling we will see more instances of him doing this same thing. nt

[GarbagemanLB]

65. and HILLARY is for real change? Get real. She is more centrist than Obama, and has the most lobbyist

donations. She is a hawk on foreign policy and cannot admit mistakes. You are voting for a slightly more liberal version of Bush.

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

21. your candidate's dirty politics and cheap shots reflect badly on her

not Senator Obama. The desperation and negativity of the Clinton campaign shows what type of President she will be: petty, selfish, unprincipled,

[jackson_dem]

31. What does Hillary have to do with Obama's campaign being a fraud?

[meow mix]

23. ok im starting to yawn on these..

yawn..

[no name no slogan]

32. Do you need a hug?

:hug:

[THUNDER HANDS]

34. Hillary put out new campaign buttons

[The Ghost]

37. THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT

is REALLY gonna help us in the General Election if he's the nominee. Give it a rest.

[Maribelle]

42. I was told by Obama supporters that my whole state did not matter in the G/E.

So now you're telling us that a few articles about Obama's plagiarism count more than my whole state?

Well I have news for you. Nothing, not even one post, nor one thread, nor banging a thread to the greatest ever in the history of DU could mean more to Obama than putting my state on the not wanted list.

[cali]

44. That's quite amusing coming from a Hillary supporter.

It's her campaign and her supporters who have said repeatedly that red state dems don't count, that caucus states don't count. And plenty of people who live in FL and MI don't agree with you. And it's hardly just Obama supporters who have a problem with simply seating delegates from that state. Something needs to be worked out, but states are NOT free to break agreements that they make with the national party. And if YOUR state leadership hadn't been such idiots, they would have had real power in the primaries.

[Maribelle]

52. Florida is considered a swing state by Republicans and Democrats.

Please try to keep up.

[cali]

57. Perhaps you're the one

that needs to pay attention. Your comment is not responsive to the points I made.

[Maribelle]

59. Are you trying to deny that Florida is a swing state?

Because it is. And that in of itself nullifies your rant about the red states.

[cali]

62. Are you trying to deny that Iowa, Colorado and New Mexico

are swing states. Because they are. And that in itself nullifies your continued pointlessness and ranting. I realize Hillary supporters are feeling badly, and I pity you guys, but try not to be so bitter.

[VenusRising]

49. Obama supporters do not makes the rules in Florida.

If you want to be angry with someone about your votes, look to the Florida Democratic party. They are the ones that broke national party rules. But Nelson of Florida always breaks with the Democratic party in favor of the DLC.

[Maribelle]

54. Sorry, but we were talking about the General Election. Not the primary.

Please give up the hate.

[VenusRising]

64. What hate?

Obama supporters don't make the rules for the GE either.

[rcsl1998]

41. One Word - AXELROD (nt)

[oasis]

45. This guy's fakery should have been exposed long before now. The

media was so set on having a horserace between Hillary and Obama that they forgot their duty to the public. :puke:

[BigDDem]

46. Has this guy ever had an original thought in his life?

[kennetha]

47. Unbelievable!!!

Axelrod, the puppet master, finds one charismatic black candidate after another so that he can put his poll-driven drivel in their mouths and pull their strings. And this is a new, more authentic politics? Wow!

Even the suck-ups in the MSM will start grabbing hold of this if they are made to see the pattern.

[Maribelle]

50. Keep up the good work, MassDemm!

This information is important in exposing the empty suit named Obama.

[boston bean]

51. Thanks Maribelle.

And a big thank you to you too. It's not easy around here being in the minority.

[GarbagemanLB]

55. Laura Bush in 2012! Being married to a governor + president qualifies you as president!

[boston bean]

56. you are weird. nt

[Little Star]

66. K & R Barack stealing lines again! nt

[jefferson_dem]

67. K & R Hillary's supporters desperately grasping at straws again! nt

[Obamaniac]

68. Hey MassDemm

While you and the rest of the retard brigade were trying to convince people that saying the same thing as someone else was a scandal you know what happened?

Obama kicked your girls ass in Wisconsin.

Well done.

[boston bean]

70. Nice, calling Hillary supporters retards, good progressive values there. nt

[EndElectoral]

69. Boy, the HRC folk are really getting desperate....Pretty sad.

[gulliver]

71. I've never seen anything like this.

I now think Obama will win the nomination. His supporters are in a trance. If he can get away with stuff like this, they'll let him get away with anything. But I think Obama is now doomed in the GE. McCain will just keep playing Patrick and Obama side-by-side, each earnestly making a very "personal" appeal to rapt, inspired audiences, each using exactly the same words.

I just don't think Obama can keep people whipped up once they know what he, Patrick, and Axelrod have done here.

[GarbagemanLB]

72. Because Clinton, with a 50% negativity rating, has a better shot. Get real.

[boston bean]

73. February 8th, 2008man knows it all. Welcome to DU.

:eyes:

[GarbagemanLB]

75. No, you obviously know more. She has '35 years' of experience! lol

[mdmc]

74. Both are great men

:kick: for the links