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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:43 PM
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Taking this moment to thank Howard Dean
OK, I'm taking a timeout to look at where we are, and how we got here. Yes there is division, vitriol, threats, and flaming... but it's primary season, and a very exciting one at that. And in spite of all the venom between the factions, I think it's fair to say that we are in a good position. We have many to thank for this, but one idea has been the driving force. That would be Howard Dean's 50 state strategy.

Consider where we might be if we had continued our failed policy of the past.

Well, for starters, I don't think we would control the Senate. We would have run a voting machine company lobbyist (of all things) against George Allen, and the Macaca incident would not have occurred because there would be no youthful campaign worker tailing him at his speeches. There's a fair chance that we would not have properly contested Montana either. I know -- it's been a disappointment. However, the fact remains that we do control the committees, and this is not a trivial matter.

But more importantly, Dean's strategy of competing everywhere, in every race, and revitalizing state and local infrastructures, has made and will make a real difference to people if we can keep it up. We have more Democratic governors, which is by no means trivial. Look at Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour's praise of Bush and looting of the coast in the wake of Katrina, and contrast that with Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius's initiative to rebuild the tornado-ravaged town of Greensburg as an environmentally friendly community. And for a state government that we actually elected in 2006, look to Ohio. Instead of a corrupt election thief, we have a respectable man, and in the position formerly held by said election thief, we have a Secretary of State who has actually investigated 2004. State positions matter!

The strategy has made states competitive for us that otherwise would not have been. We threw out the corrupt election-thieving GOP machine in Ohio, making that state a good candidate for a switch, and we can now devote more time to actually getting out the vote there. We can look at states like Colorado, Nevada, and Virginia as being serious swing state opportunities.

Speaking of Virginia, if not for Dr. Dean's strategy, we might well be facing GOP presumptive nominee, Sen. George Allen, coming off a 60% win and untainted by revelations of racism. And as bad as McCain is, Allen would have been worse. By getting rid of the most racist and misogynist presidential wannabe before he could even launch a campaign, we've now effectively painted the GOP into a corner. Their candidate will not attack our nominee on the basis of race or sex, and will not condone it from others (I do believe that of McCain), so anyone on their side who tries it will be denied that air of legitimacy that they would otherwise have had if their own nominee said it -- and don't kid yourself that there wouldn't have been any media-designated legitimacy to it. The media will fabricate a "national debate" over any crap spewed by the Republicans, no matter how vile it may be. Remember swiftboating? Indeed McCain is the strongest candidate they could offer... but he is still a weak candidate because he sides with Bush on the issues that matter most to Americans, Iraq and the economy. People just don't know this yet; that is why he polls well. We have the opportunity to expose his "maverick" persona for the colossal lie it is.

The GOP shot itself in the foot in 2005 and 2006. But in spite of that, if we hadn't contested everywhere, and given voters a real alternative, it wouldn't have made a bit of difference. We'd be looking at a far more hostile Congress, and there would have been no Blue Wave of 2006 to create momentum for the party. If we hadn't contested everywhere in 2006, the scandals still would have happened, and right now being a Democrat would be seen as something vaguely pathetic, belonging to a party that couldn't defeat child molesters and indicted criminals. Instead, it is cool to be a Democrat again, and the massive turnout just confirms it.

We have Dean to thank for this.

THANK YOU DR. DEAN!

:patriot: :kick:
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:22 PM
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1. I can kick that...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:23 PM by sybylla
but I'm afraid it's not vitriolic enough to get much attention in GD-P. You need a nastier title at least. :-)
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:22 PM
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2. Hear, hear!
The 50 state strategy was the right plan at the right time. We can't afford to concede any state, and we must believe that there are sane people who will vote for Democrats in each and every state. Obama proves the genius of Dean's vision.

:patriot:

-Laelth
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:23 PM
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3. AYE!
We must never forget that the Good Dr. rescued this party from itself, despite the dirty hand it dealt him.


:patriot:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:25 PM
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4. I think when all is said and done Dean will have history's last laugh
:D
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:30 PM
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5. .
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:32 PM
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6. Why I come to DU
Mostly so I might have a chance to read something like this, which reminds me of why I still support the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:33 PM
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7. YEEEEEE- AAAAAAAAAH!
I love me some Dr. Dean!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:37 PM
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8. Agree heartily!
:toast:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:38 PM
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9. aww, what a great post
here's to HoHo. And no that's not a nasty name, it's what he was frequently called when he was the guv here.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:58 AM
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10. .
:toast:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:17 AM
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11. He is my inspiration.
When I get fed up, I think of him, toiling away.

I think of how our primaries would have been FRONT-LOADED.
How a party insider, pre-picked by the DLC would have already
been CORONATED as the party's candidate, without the input
of the PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY.

The horror, the horror!

He keeps me ENGAGED!
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:18 AM
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12. Excellent !
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:20 AM
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13. Thanks Doc!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:25 AM
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14. Dean's one of the best! And has my
undying gratitude for his determination to get this job done no matter how many are trying to stand in his way and our way.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:27 AM
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15. Dean needs to stay as head of the DNC!
I know he probably wants to go home to Vermont to his wife - but the Democratic Party has never looked finer!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:36 AM
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16. THANK YOU DR. DEAN!
Howard Dean has been the best Party Chair we've had in a long, long time.

Chuck Manatt was OK. Paul Kirk was OK.

McAwful was just terrible.

Howard Dean has been fantastic. We are in his debt.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:40 AM
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17. If Dean doesn't want to put in another four years--
--we really need to think of who to back as his replacement. Suggestions most welcome.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:54 AM
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18. I love Dr. Dean!
He's been my favorite since 2003, and I still hope he'll run for some kind of national office when his term as Chairman expires. He's energized the party, and the 50-state strategy is brilliant. I love how he talks to the pundits too...he doesn't let them get away with one of their favorite tactics: rewording his answers to make them sound like something different. Dean's answer to that, over and over: "That's NOT what I said!" Then he repeats what he actually DID say. (One of the reasons why they hated him when he was running for President)

Yes, we have a lot to thank him for.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 02:58 AM
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19. The Doctor is still in!!! My candidate in 2004...
and still the candidate of my heart in 2008. This Deaniac :loveya: HD!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:00 AM
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20. Brilliant post especially about Virginia
BTW does he ever read anything in here?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:00 AM
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21. Thanks
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:02 AM
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22. Thank you, Dr. Dean!
Video of Howard Dean being interviewed by Barack back in 2003!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxwsdREgohY
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:04 AM
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23. it's not that Dean has won that's so great...
it's who has lost! Watching the DLCers go down in flames is beautiful. Triangulate this!
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:06 AM
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24. I am a neophyte in the world of politics
One of the first things I figured out is that Howard Dean is on my side, our side, and that he is a good person who does the right thing for the good of the party that is supposed to do the right thing for the middle and lower class masses. Thank you Dr. Dean!
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:56 AM
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25. Hi Terry!
Wassuuppp??
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:38 AM
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26. Another kick. No more Clinton people as DNC chairs. Thankyou Chairman Dean.
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 11:39 AM by blm
We needed someone loyal to the PARTY, its candidates, Dem voters and FAIRNESS.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:51 AM
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27. K&R
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:58 AM
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28. And while we're at it, let's hear it for Terry McAwful!
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

...
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 04:31 PM
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29. Dr. Dean stood strong against pressure from DLCers; he was right
and proved it. I heartily thank him for his vision and his assiduous effort to follow it no matter the powers who tried to thwart him.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:32 PM
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30. Thank you Dr. Dean
You were the medicine this country needed. We just needed a whole lot of it before we started to get better.

:applause:

Sonia
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:30 PM
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31. Thank you, Dr. Dean! nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:00 PM
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32. Kick. (nt)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:01 PM
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33. Thank you, People-Powered Howard! 50 States fo'life.
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