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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:16 PM
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Clinton caught lying about Obama attack!!!
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:18 PM by mckeown1128
Clinton, in remarks to the ABC affiliate in Honolulu that were reported by the Chicago Tribune, asserted: “Look, it’s not us making this charge. It’s the media.”

But on Monday, the Clinton campaign announced a conference call “to discuss a recent speech delivered by Sen. Obama” and included a YouTube link that showed Obama remarks side by side with similar comments by his friend, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick.

On the call, Howard Wolfson, the campaign’s communications director, said: “When an author plagiarizes from another author there is damage done to two different parties. One is to the person he plagiarized from. The other is to the reader.”

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in an e-mailed statement: "Senator Clinton knows full well that her campaign held a conference call with reporters to fan these flames and the fact that she suggested her campaign had nothing to do with it is exactly the kind of evasive tactic voters are rejecting."....



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8594.html

So, she accuses him of plagiarism in a conference call with the media... the media asks her why she is making the charge.... then she claims that it was the media and not her...

Regardless of the ridiculous charge of plagerism...(I swear to GOD that Hillary has speech writers) anyway... regardless of the charges why is she LYING about bringing the controversy to the media. DO WE WANT A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT LIES TO THE MEDIA?

I have had enough of this.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:19 PM
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1. I've heard Wolfson, Tubb-Jones, and Lewis all repeat that
story about the media just putting the films out there, that the campaign had nothing to do with the story. Tubb-Jones screwed up her version yesterday by ending with a statement that the campaign wanted to call it to the public's attention.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:20 PM
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2. By any means possible, regardless of who they anger. I've had enough, too.
But you know what? All along the way, people have caught on to the little game they're playing. That gives me comfort.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:27 PM
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:20 PM
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3. mckeown caught posting tabloid-like subject lines!!!!
I have had enough of this
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:32 PM
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20. ohh so you are saying she WAS telling the truth...
I would love to hear your logic on that.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:21 PM
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4. Tubbs: "If we hadn't BROUGHT this to you, it never would have been discussed." Wow. They're PROUD
She let that slip at the end of the Nora interview yesterday. They're lying.. AGAIN.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:35 PM
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15. LOL This is funny. Because I turned to the Warren Ballentine showq
yesterday. And People were calling in from Tubbs district, saying its going to be hell to pay for her attacks. All they would say is her seat is coming up soon. She is going to face a serious Primary Challenge
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:21 PM
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5. OMG>>>>>>>stop the presses.. n/t
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:22 PM
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6. Kick and recommend!

If you're going to go on a full attack smearing mode, at least have the guts to acknowledge it!
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:23 PM
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7. Fuck her.
More lies, she is getting desperate. At least they didn't let Bill do the attacking, they saw that didn't work well.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:24 PM
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8. Hillary never should have hired Wolfson.
His resume will smell like shit forever now.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:14 PM
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19. He alone has turned me off to Clinton.
Do not get me wrong, I am all for Obama. But my attitude towards Clinton has complete changed due to the actions of this man.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:25 PM
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9. More follies from The Gang that Couldn't Spin Straight
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:25 PM
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10. K & R
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:26 PM
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11. I enjoyed non-stop morning coverage of her getting made fun of for bringing this up.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:27 PM by Kittycat
It was great. It was basically a 2 hour, clinton your a hack and suck time, and Obama is great. Does she not understand the more negative she gets, the worse the press coverage is going to be on her? It wreaks of desperation on her part, and makes her look divisive and petty. Does she really think that Obama supporters are going to just coming running to her side if she continues these tactics? And now the hints that they'll consider pledged delegates as up for grabs?

She's a sick woman that really needs help. She'll be content taking down the entire party just for her own political gain. And don't for a second think it has anything to do with any of us. Because she had already been clear that much of this country doesn't matter to her. They're either too red, too black, too white collar, too educated, too young, wrong gender. Etc, etc, etc.

I hope she gets her ass handed her by not only the voters, but by party leaders - IF she keeps this disgusting repuke pattern up. We should expect more of our democratic officials than the bullshit she's throwing around. It's degrading to the entire party.

ETA: I have no intention of being part of the 49 or 51%. I plan on being part of the overwhelming 60+% progressive leadership that Obama has presented.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:32 PM
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13. It would help if she would go negative on things that aren't totally STUPID.
Go negative on experience - attack his resume

Go negative on the speeches vs. solutions - that's probably pretty good as a campaign tactic. It seemed like that message came form her new campaign person, and its probably the best she can have at this stage. (Obviously, I disagree, but I'm a political junkie - I can think from the other sides perspective.)

But Going negative on waaaaa Obama won't debate me? HORRIBLE IDEA THAT GETS PEOPLE LAUGHING IN HER FACE.

Going negative on waaaaa Obama is a plagerizer? TERRIBLE IDEA THAT GETS PEOPLE LAUGHING IN HER FACE.

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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:47 PM
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18. It's all they have apparently
no matter how stupid it was. It's almost sad if it weren't so calculated and despicable.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:31 PM
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12. well...nothing unusual about that...
I hate to keep posting this crap, so my apologies to those who have seen it before, but it's becoming so trite. Will there be another "apology

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.

Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.
) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."



Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.

Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html


January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”



COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized
for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34


December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail


A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html



Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs



Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance

By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html


Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:35 PM
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22. Please!!! Keep posting that..
Everyone needs to know that a potential democratic nominee is using republican tactics.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:32 PM
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14. Ohmigawd, an election trick during an election!!!
{{gasp}} Oh the horrors!

:sarcasm:

I'm an Obama supporter, but elections are always filled with this type of thing, especially when one candidate starts getting desperate. I actually feel sorry for Clinton and her supporters at this point that the primary campaign has come to this.

Before you flame me, keep in mind that I am an Obama supporter.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:30 PM
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17. The campaign’s communications director doesn't count.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:35 PM
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21. KICK!!!! Hillary has gone freakin' nuts.
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