Hillary should drop out and take the VP slot

[LuckyTheDog]

:hide:

This is not intended to be flame bait... though I suspect it'll draw some attacks.

I honestly believe both Obama and Clinton are fine candidates. If Hillary was where Obama is and vice versa, I'd be calling for Obama to take the second spot on the ticket (even though he's my preferred candidate).

We have here the makings of a dream ticket that could unite the Democrats and beat the crap out of McCain. The only question here is whether we will defeat ourselves before the fall campaign even begins.

It's time to unite. It is literally time for Obama people and Clinton people to join hands and sing Kumbaya. Can we do it? PLEASE?

:grouphug:

[Purveyor]

1. I'd rather see her as Senate Majority Leader... eom

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. *

:think:

[LuckyTheDog]

8. She'd be a GREAT Senate majority leader

I'd be down with that.

[Obamanaut]

42. Even being among the top 10 senators for missing votes? nt

[Divernan]

51. There you go with those damn facts again!

nt

[intheflow]

50. I was thinking Supreme Court Justice. n/t

[shadowknows69]

58. Word

Hand Harry his hat.

[nomorewhopper]

60. she would make a great president too

i personally don't think she could be elected, but she'd be a great pres

and the VP thing, it is NOT going to happen

[ShortnFiery]

76. Not unlike Senator Byrd, Webb has matured and has achieved a profound change in attitude.

As a former woman Army officer, I'd be proud to have him as out VP. You see, I can FORGIVE someone who has reflected on his behavior and has made concerted changes. Unfortunately, some people NEVER forgive nor forget. Silly me, I mistakenly thought those who treasured the nurturing of grudges were only from the ranks of RW republicans. :shrug:

[TheWraith]

66. Same here. She'd be a good Majority Leader, much better than as a VP. nt

[kikiek]

2. Wrong.

[peoli]

3. forget about Hillary for VP. SERIOUSLY.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

4. I think they'd actually work well together.

Hillary is better with brass-tacks policy, and Obama is better at selling the whole thing.

[Roland99]

5. NO. FUCKING. WAY.

DUMP THE DLC!

[Renew Deal]

7. The longer she stays in, the longer she distracts from attacking the republicans.,

It's time to call it a day in Hillaryland.

[cali]

It's not a good ticket

and it's not over yet. I doubt Hillary would ever contemplate being down ticket, and she'd still motivate the repukes to come out and vote.

[Kahuna]

48. Right. Right. And right.

Welcome back. :hi:

[scheming daemons]

9. VP slot won't be offered to her....

....she brings nothing to Obama's campaign.



It will be Jim Webb.

[LuckyTheDog]

19. Webb would be great

And a while back, I actually suggested that here. But I am really worried about a rift between the Obama camp and the Hillary camp. We can't have that.

[Windy]

23. Not after his Telecom immunity vote.... I was all for him until then.

Its about more than the war

[LuckyTheDog]

26. OOPS delete

delete... dupe

[LuckyTheDog]

27. Nobody is perfect

I don't expect purity.

[Alexander]

46. Webb once supported Bush and Macaca and made blatantly sexist remarks.

He wrote a paper called "Women Can't Fight" or somesuch garbage. If you thought the "Obama is a sexist" comments are bad now, they'll increase 100-fold before November with Webb.

No Webb. He belongs in the Senate.

[NightWatcher]

10. Hillary wont be a #2 again. look at how hard she scraps for the #1 position

[ingac70]

11. I doubt Obama would have her...

if she hadn't gone nasty here lately she might have had a chance.

[RummyTheDummy]

12. No thanks. She's a ticket killer. High negatives nationwide.

[Medusa]

13. NY elected her. They can keep her.

:shrug:

[speedoo]

31. NYer here. I don't want her.

Just go away, Hillary. Take your slogans and go away.

[Divernan]

53. Whatever happened to that good Dem Congresswoman Hil shoved out of the way

Nita Lowy or something like that. She was in line up to run for the Senate seat before Clinton carpetbagged it.

[speedoo]

55. Congresswoman Nita Lowey.

http://lowey.house.gov/?sectionid=22§iontree=22

She's still serving the good people of Westchester County.

[BringBigDogBack]

71. my thoughts

[Yael]

14. No way.

It is time to stay on message and that would be anything but.

[truebrit71]

15. No thank you. I do not want HRC anywhere NEAR the ticket...

...

[ronnykmarshall]

29. If it pisses you off ...

I'm all for it!

[truebrit71]

43. Welcome to ignore...

...:eyes:

[ronnykmarshall]

52. It took you that long?

[Clinton Crusader]

16. Don't do it, Hillary! Let this fraud sink on his own!

[DesEtoiles]

17. she should stay in the Senate - she's a policy wonk. that's the place for her.

[Crooked Moon]

18. ms. clinton owes it to her supporters and herself

to fight for the nomination until the math turns against her.

[Divernan]

54. Great GOP strategy. Drain the Dems campaign funds all summer

nt

[meow mix]

20. hi doggy *hugs*

:grouphug:

[Beregond2]

21. VP

You're joking, right? That would completely undermine the credibility of them both.

[ronnykmarshall]

22. The only way I will support an Obama ticket ...

Is if Hillary is VP.

Other than that ... my vote is all he'll get.

[LuckyTheDog]

37. Plus, it'd keep peace in my house

My wife likes Hillary and I like Obama.

[Fredda Weinberg]

24. VP? No way. n/t

[Colobo]

62. Senate Majority Leader?

[Fredda Weinberg]

65. She is suitable, ain't she? n/t

[jillan]

25. No way - Obama is going to need someone with alot of foreign relations experience.

He should pick Kerry.

[Hoof Hearted]

28. Rude, RUDE behavior Senator Obama, interupting Senator Clinton's speech

I'm disappointed.

[LuckyTheDog]

33. They'd be a superstar ticket

And such a show of party unity would make Rush Limbaugh's head explode. The right has been selling the "Obama and Hillary will destroy each other" line.

[caligirl]

30. Obama doesn't need a devisive pol.

His hard work in being a community organizer is great for his job as a POTUS. He did this while she was the wife of a politician. The difference is showing up in his stellar organization on the ground in this race. Hillary would be a hindrance to the work that has to get done. She is a politician with the kind of politician thinking, political expediency overrides all else. Not the kind of person a general wants to talk to about issues of war and troops and military concerns. To say nothing of her vote on the war.

[musicblind]

32. I'm a Hillary suppoter

and I'd take it. She'd make a good VP. I would NOT be upset if she stepped down and then took the VP role. I will be very saddened if she is shut out of the next administration all together. When was the last time that the runner up for the nomination got THIS many votes. No matter how much the people on here want to blind themselves with Hillary-hate, you cannot over look that a HUGE percentage of American's love this woman... more so than, possibly, any runner up to the democratic nomination in the past. She has earned the right to be VP by gathering so many votes in the nominating process. I think that democratic leaders such as Al Gore, and Howard Dean agree. I think that is why they are not endorsing. So that they can barter an arrangement between Clinton and Barack.

[LuckyTheDog]

34. Yes... what you said. (nt)

[TexasObserver]

35. He would be making a mistake to have her on the ticket. It would cost us states.

and, it would cost us dearly down ballot

[BklynChick]

36. why would she be offered that? she offers absolutely nothing just negativity

[LuckyTheDog]

39. Votes... and a lot of friends

That's what she brings to the table.

[greguganus]

38. No Way!! No more Bush/Clintons in the White House ever again! n/t

[Canuckistanian]

40. I see her as Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property

Actually, Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

That's where her talents would really shine.

[John Q. Citizen]

41. The can't really run on the same ticket for practical reasons.

What is Obama's message (one that been working extraordinarily well, by the way)? Change! hope Change! Running with Hill would say, 'but not really.'

What's Hillary's message (less effective but primary to her run)? "Ready on Day 1" which also implied Obama isn't. The VP has to be ready also. What if Hill died on day 2? Inquireing voters would want to know. And it would leave Hill open to charges of flip floping, dishonesty, etc.

It has nothing to do with whether Obama and Hill like each other or not. It has nothing to do with whether Dems like Hill, Obama, or not. It has to do with not stepping on your own messge, not sending mixed messages.

[rosetta627]

44. I don't want that war monger anywhere on the ticket

I would, however, love to see Kucinich--a genuine progressive--play a prominent role in the Obama administration.

[demo dutch]

45. She can do better than that. That presidency will be the next disaster this country will face

[rufus dog]

47. I have no issue with her being McCains running mate.

[CK_John]

49. IMO, the vp slot will go to Bloomberg to keep him from running as an IND. n/t

[RoadRage]

56. NO NO NO NO NO!

Seriously.. i don't see the advantage to this. Clinton supporters (most of them) are hard core dems.. they will eventually decide that they'd rather have Obama instead of McCain. For the big reasons.. Iraq, Healthcare, Abortion, Gay Rights.. the Dem ticket items that McCain won't touch.

But, Obama is pulling HUGE Independents and some republicans. These people DO NOT LIKE HILLARY! If she's on the ticket, he will lose many of those voters, and quickly hop to McCain.. they're just on his side by a thread right now anyway.

He will lose more then he will gain by putting Hillary on his ticket. Nevermind the fact that frankly, the two don't get along all that well, and it would be obvious and forced.

This wouldn't do Obama any good - so why do it?

[dailykoff]

57. Yes, in Cuba.

go Raul / Hillary!

[Eurobabe]

59. Hillary should drop yes, but NO WAY to her being Veep

It's not going to happen.

[MrSlayer]

61. She won't accept VP and Obama wouldn't have her.

She should just go back to New York and work on her Senate career.

[Ichingcarpenter]

63. No thanks

Time for a new generation

[billyoc]

64. No. A primary challenge in '12 and out.

DLC delende est.

[berni_mccoy]

67. Unfortunately, she's gone WAY TOO NEGATIVE for Obama to consider her. It's too bad.

They would have been a tremendous team.

[LuckyTheDog]

68. I think Obama has a thicker skin than that

He'll offer the VP slot to Hillary if he thinks she could help him win. And she'll take it if she thinks it'll help advance her policy agenda. They might not like each other much. But both candidate are grownups.

[berni_mccoy]

77. I think he'll look at history (JFK and LBJ). JFK's advisors warned him against

LBJ as a VP, but JFK felt he needed him to win the election.

I do not think that is true in this case. Clinton would be a drag on Obama's ability to win. He needs someone who can hold the independents and cross-overs from going with McCain. Clinton won't be able to do that.

[JTFrog]

69. No thanks. We already have to clean up her mess after she drops out. n/t

[workinclasszero]

70. Hillary = major drag on the ticket

Obama doesn't need any DLC shills on his ticket.

[Moh96]

72. VP my ass, she should be happy if she wins the senate again

[catgirl]

73. She has no place in Obama's administation

she dug her hole.

[ShortnFiery]

74. No WAY! The Clitnons, with their "take no prisoners" behavior have ruined HRC's chances for VP.

:(

[Vinca]

75. I'd rather see someone like Wesley Clark or Bill Richardson.

It's hard to imagine Hillary playing second fiddle.