hiaasenrocks
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:47 PM
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The news outlets were right to cut to Obama when he started his speech. |
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Hillary was not giving a concession speech. She was delivering her stump speech and could have gone on for an hour.
Obama won tonight. He's won the last nine contests, which means that she's had the peak of prime-time to deliver the first (losing) speech for the last few weeks. Also, Obama is the clear front-runner.
The news outlets were justified in switching to him. No question about it. And I say that as someone who doesn't have a preference between the two.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:48 PM
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1. Exactly -- if she was giving a concession that would be one thing |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:53 PM
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7. Has she delivered one lately? I mean, a real concession speech? |
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The impression I've been getting, from watching her recent speeches on election night, is that she pretty much ignores the outcome of that day's contest(s) and just holds a rally.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:56 PM
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9. She's just like Bush.. |
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... she never admits a mistake and she never acknowledges the 800lb gorilla sitting in the voting booth.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:39 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:49 PM
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2. And by switching to Obama, the networks are denying Clinton |
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free airtime, and I think it was the right thing to do.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:51 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 PM
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12. And he's given up a lot of free primetime air time waiting for the others |
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remember how Huckabee, for example, started speaking so early on Super Tuesday? It was all about getting primetime exposure. No reason Obama should continue giving that up, waiting for others to finish.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:00 PM
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Obama has routinely given very late speeches. Why should he wait tonight, especially when Clinton is not giving a concession speech?
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:09 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:49 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:50 PM
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5. Pretty much. That's the news tonight. There's no news in camp Clinton. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:51 PM by hiaasenrocks
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:49 PM
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4. Exactly...He's News nt |
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:55 PM
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8. Absolutely, and if it were the other way around I would think the same thing |
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I think it's interesting that anyone is complaining about this
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 PM
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10. I'm not surprised about the complaints. |
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The chief strategy of The Clintons' campaign is to play victim at every turn. Tonight's complaints from supporters of The Clintons is just more of the same.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:05 PM
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15. Yes, but I see it more as Clinton suporters are in shock, they actually believe |
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Hillary has a right to always be giving preference, which is totally ridiculous. If it was Huckabee getting cut off by McCain, they wouldn't see a problem with that!
I think it's really indicative of the way Clinton supporters see this election, they really do believe Hillary is entitled to the nomination
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 PM
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Thanks for your reasoned post. It's such a silly thing for posters to be concerned about in many ways -- when we have so many more important things to be concerned about.
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Tue Feb-19-08 09:59 PM
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13. And she started an hour late |
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:11 PM
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17. Plus so often her speeches are terribly presented |
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Last time I tried to watch her afte one of the primaries (I think it was one that she had won!) she was shuffling the paper of the speech and after every sentence, her facial expression seemed to be: "More of this and I'll die!"
It has never occurred to her that maybe she doesn't need to give a speech - I think everyone would be better off if she'd just express one or two things off the top of her head and at least look a bit sincere.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:14 PM
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18. he gives and invites people to join in a new path. he asks something |
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of his followers. I find him very inviting.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:39 PM
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20. Obama says :When I am President, WE will do this" |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 10:39 PM by truedelphi
And from his inflection you know he doesn't mean the "imperial" we.
She says "When I am President "I" will" do such and so.
We already have a President in the WH who is overly fond of "I"
Right now, "I" am so glad about how this is all shaking out but hope that "We don't get fooled again."
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 PM
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24. You mean The Decider? I feel if |
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she gets in she'll be another.."I'm The Decider".
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 PM
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25. I listened to him with my back turned, working on something and |
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that is a good way to listen to what they are saying without distractions. He is asking people of something. That is evident.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:36 PM
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26. My neighbor also said that and it was her first Obama speech |
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It was the first time she saw one of his speeches and is now in the Obama camp
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:45 PM
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27. I saw Michelle O on Larry King (Don't watch King often but was glad |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 PM by truedelphi
To have a chance to find out what makes her tick)
I was very pleased with her answers to his questions about the Clintons and the rivalry between Camps O & C.
She said, "Well Larry, when I address a crowd, I think about the needs of the crowd - I don't think about the score with the Clintons." (I am paraphrasing, but that's the sentiment)
So it strikes me that both Obmamas have an inner guidance on being a good if not great speaker - the first rule of speaking is that you follow what is in your environment - especially your audience. I haven't heard M. Speak to a crowd bet, but she has to be at least *good* as she knows this inner rule.
And he of course transcends good - he is awesome, no two ways about it.
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Tue Feb-19-08 10:15 PM
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19. And most importantly, she's the one that started her speech late |
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Why should Obama's audience have to wait because Hillary's running behind schedule?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:15 PM
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another fake outrage from the Clinton supporters. The winner always gets priority.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:16 PM
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23. and did she ever even concede?? nope.. n.t |
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