FACT CHECK: Hillary timed her stump speech to pre-empt Obama

[jefferson_dem]

Not waiting

Hillary Clinton times her speech to pre-empt Obama's...and now Obama's taking the stage in Houston as Hillary speaks -- a challenge to the networks.

But they can hardly resist a victory speech.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Not_waiting.html#comments

[blocker]

1. Typical dirty Clinton

what do you expect!

[City Lights]

10. And in typical fashion, many of her supporters are crying foul.

:nopity:

[lisa58]

2. why does she have a stump speech...

...when she should be delivering a concession speech?

[Alexander]

5. Because Wisconsin doesn't count.

[Kittycat]

14. Or at minimum thanking those that did vote for her.

But as the PP stated... Wisconsin doesn't count.

[krkaufman]

41. I have less of a problem with the stump speech aspect.

I'd think the losing candidate wouldn't want to dwell on, and attract attention to, a loss, but a basic concession and congratulations is always in order, and *then* promote yourself.

But if (1) you skip the concession, (2) skip the congratulations, (3) attack the winner, and (4) reschedule your speech to intrude on the winner's speech, then you deserve to have your political ass handed to you.

[Renew Deal]

3. More losing strategy from camp clinton.

:rofl:

[Medusa]

4. Well how did that work out for her?

:spank:

[tammywammy]

6. Her speech was originally scheduled for 8:30 eastern

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/19/682431.aspx

[DUyellow]

20. is this true?

[tammywammy]

MSNBC posted that at 6:26 pm

And here's another source:
http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/hillary-clinton-youngstown-today-2/19

Start: 02/19/2008 - 7:30pm
End: 02/19/2008 - 8:30pm

Sen. Hillary Clinton will hold a rally at 8:30 p.m. at Chaney High School, 731 S. Hazelwood Avenue, Youngstown.

Doors open at 7:00 p.m.

Free and open to the public.




Ohio is eastern time zone. Obama started speaking at 8:30 Central time (9:30 eastern).

[Buzz Clik]

33. Why would she even plan a speech 30 minutes prior to the polls closing?

Rescheduling only made sense. But, it did put the networks in a bad way.

[tammywammy]

34. Yep, and sorry Hillary, but Obama won tonight

Of course they're going to switch to him.

[Windy]

7. It just gets worse and worse with these people... Where are their heads?

this kind of behavior does NOT help them!!!

[my2sense]

8. How pathetic...... n/t

[HeraldSquare212]

9. A good campaign would have come up with something new

to keep the networks engaged, or teased them on and on re: a concession speech, to keep the cameras on her.

[renegade000]

11. here is another link that verifies this

posted by someone else in another thread:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/19/clinton_will_make_early_speech_tonight.html

[rosetta627]

12. It's a metaphor for the entire primary season

She miscalculates and misjudges and disrespects, he holds his ground and triumphs.

[grantcart]

40. i don't think that they realize that it is now in the big leagues

[backscatter712]

13. It appears she got a hoist from her own petard.

It was her speech that got interrupted by Obama's.

As Nelson would say, HA-HA!!!

[Cha]

27. Karma's a bitch...

And that was instant!

[hisownpetard]

38. It does, indeed.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. Bookmarking!

:hi:

[grantcart]

16. she had it all cued up with a teleprompter too

and after Obama's speech the commentators are just waiting to make their points and show their charts so they won't rerun it until 2 in the morning.

[rosetta627]

17. Good info jefferson_dem

Thanks.

[Barack_America]

18. Positioning herself as the victim again...

The possibility occurred to me, but I really hoped that wasn't the case...that she was honestly delayed.

That is a sorry tactic, beneath her as a candidate and a woman.

[TexasObserver]

19. Yes, that's exactly what she did last time, and then filibustered

Fool me once ...

So the networks, realizing no one wants to watch her drone on and on one more time, went to the speech people do want to watch.

[I Vote In Pittsburgh]

28. Fool me once... shame on you

fool me ... can't get fooled again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

[TexasObserver]

37. Ha!! I never get tired of seeing Bush say that. This is your brain on booze ....

[tammywammy]

39. That's funny no matter how many times you watch it

:rofl:

[Cha]

21. I figured she was up to something..

and it's really pissing me off that they're all these whiny threads scolding Obama for "interupting hilary's speech"..you know the one..the one where she doesn't congratulate Obama but smears with lies.

[nomorewhopper]

22. hillary took a huge step down in stature tonight.

you'll notice that kucinich didn't get to give a victory speech either

hillary is becoming second tier, and is ceasing to be a viable candidate.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

23. so it was her fault she was cut off? nt

[Kahuna]

29. Probably. It was up to her to determine what time the WINNER was going to speak. nnt

[fascisthunter]

24. That's Just Despicable.... Right Out of Karl Rove's Play Book

I really am glad she's losing.

[Kolesar]

31. Despicable?

[Kaylee]

25. Why does she do things like this?.....

It makes her look petty.

[mckara]

26. It Didn't Matter When the Networks Switched...

Clinton was giving the same old stump speech, the same old cliches, tilting at the same old windmills...

[Kolesar]

30. They cut away from a speech of her at my old school

I was kind of disappointed. Obama is sounding kind of circular in his speech in Texas. Oh well.

[Egnever]

32. Yet again her tactics backfire.

[wheresthemind]

35. kick

[GoldieAZ49]

36. She left all those ppl sitting there waiting for an hour too

very inconsiderate, when they find out they were pawns they may not appreciate it

[TexasObserver]

42. You know when he did that and she got blown off the channels, even CSPAN ...

You know she blew a gasket.