No college degree - Obama 54, Hillary: 45

[NJSecularist]

They consisted of 58% of the population.

There goes another Hillbot talking point.

Add another Hillary demographic that is going over to Obama. And it can't be marginalized either: the majority of that 54% no-college-degree vote that Obama got was white.

[HeraldSquare212]

1. Yup - she's tied in TX, and lost the demo that was her rationale for winning OH

It's over.

[NJSecularist]

2. Yup, her key demographics are abandoning her.

[ryanmuegge]

6. I'd be reluctant to call this race as "over" yet, but it's not looking good for her.

[HeraldSquare212]

17. I agree - but I think the superdelegates are going to step in first.

It's questionable whether they'll continue to sit back and give her the chance.

[jackson_dem]

3. What about Dems without a college degree?

We know rethugs and "independents" are going 2:1 for Obama.

[NJSecularist]

5. I don't have those numbers available

But either way, he carried the no-college-degree vote

[Colobo]

4. Another talking point DEBUNKED!

[jackson_dem]

8. Get a grip Obamites. Nothing was debunked

The data clearly showed this in the 30 states that have previously voted. All Wisconsin, as well as the Beltway results, show is Obama is improving. Improving does not rewrite past results. He didn't debunk anything. He just improved.

[NJSecularist]

19. It doesn't matter what happened in New Hampshire

[TexasObserver]

7. and another Clinton meme bites the dust, as Obama takes another demo away from her

[jackson_dem]

9. One state does not make a pattern

Nor do two states and one city erase what 30 states have shown.

[NJSecularist]

12. Stop living in the past

This is an indication of what will happen in Ohio and Texas.

What happened in New Hampshire doesn't matter anymore. It's old news.

[XemaSab]

14. 36 states have shown

That Obama has a much, much broader "base" than Hillary.

He's won in the south, in the north, in the east, in the west, in the midwest, in the northeast, in the northwest, and in the southeast.

The only place he hasn't yet won in is the true Southwest, but even some of her victories there were squeakers.

I don't know how you can possibly argue that past primaries and caucuses, and future polls don't all point to some pretty bad news for your candidate.

[jackson_dem]

20. If you look at it that way, yes

If you look at Hillary winning whites, Latinos, Asians, GLBT, Jews, working folks, and women you could argue that she has the broader base. 36 states have shown us this as well.

[TexasObserver]

18. No point in trying to convince a delusional Hillary fan they're in denial.

Have you considered counseling?

[jackson_dem]

22. Are you that drunk on kool aid? It is idiotic to think one or two states makes a pattern

36 states have voted so far.

[TexasObserver]

29. you poor thing.

I hate it when IGNORE goes off and you show up again.

[dchill]

24. Numbers don't lie...

unless you want them to...

[TexasObserver]

30. here's $3, go get a calculator and work out on it

if you want to buy clue, let me know

[dchill]

32. Um, I was trying...

to agree with you. Looking back, I still think that should have been obvious. Sheesh.

I have a perfectly good $3 calculator, thanks. Guess I'll let you buy me the clue, instead.

[TexasObserver]

33. oops, sometimes I squeeze off a round too quickly and hit a friendly

[dchill]

34. Well, then, never mind the clue.

You may need it more than I.
;)

[TexasObserver]

35. I suppose I had that coming. Can I have my clue back?

[dchill]

37. Done deal.

:)

[XemaSab]

10. I wsa wondering earlier: if his supposed base is black people and her supposed base is the

working class, I thought most black people were, if not actually IN the working class themselves, a generation removed from the working class?

So by courting these two supposed bases, aren't they really trying to grab onto the same folks? :shrug:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

13. Don't buy into the bullshit.

They're courting Americans. End of story.

And beginning of story... :think:

The beauty of Obama (and Hillary, without the past) is watching the walls crumble.

[XemaSab]

15. Thanks for the reality check.

:D

[jackson_dem]

23. Bull. Obama is getting 85-88% black support in each state. Race is a factor in voting

[NJSecularist]

25. It's not Obama's fault that Hillary can't chip into his demographic

[jackson_dem]

27. It is his fault he swiftboated the Clintons on race

[NJSecularist]

28. That's a flat-out lie

and a horrible misuse of the word swiftboat.

[stillcool]

36. Is that why he won the most...

of any demographic except older white women? That race shit stopped working like two weeks ago, but I admire your tenacity.

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.

Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/hillary_adviser_harold_ickes_t.php

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

31. Only if you want it to be.

[jackson_dem]

26. She's going for working folks who are white, Latino, and Asian

It looks bad to publicly say she is writing off blacks but every state has shown Obama getting 85-88% black support so it is futile for her to target that bloc.

[Brundle_Fly]

11. 10 wins in a row...

She's trending down daily

She's about to go what in politics is called, BALLISTIC!

prepare for ugly ugly stuff~.

[Straight Shooter]

16. That is an Obama supporter talking point, that only the educated recognize Obama's greatness.

In fact, there's one DU member who starts more than a few posts with, "If you were more educated, as most of Obama's supporters are ..."

Education should never have factored into it one way or the other. It's mean-spirited, no matter who does it.

[dchill]

21. So even us undereducated folks...

are coming over.