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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:00 PM
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I have an entirely different theory about the crossover Republican vote.
I think the crossover is coming, not because they are looking who will be easiest to beat in the GE, but on who they would rather have running the country when they lose the GE.

It's a known fact that the right detests all things Clinton. It's a rabid, hysterical, irrational hatred. Not one week has gone by since Bill was elected that some right-winger hasn't slammed one Clinton or the either. Even when Hillary wasn't in the news, the right was mocking, slamming and insulting her. None of it was deserved or necessary or even true, but the right seems incapable of helping themselves when it comes to the Clintons.

Since the midterms, I've heard several commentators talking about how the Republicans themselves think it will be next to impossible to win the Presidential election. So my theory about the crossover voting is that they are trying to stop Hillary at the only point they have - in the primaries. I believe they are expecting to lose the presidency and they want to have a say in who will be in office, if they can't have a Republican. Or rather, they want a say in who won't be president.
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:02 PM
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1. I disagree..when push comes to shove..the American Male
will vote experience.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:06 PM
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5. Well one thing we know for sure
Obama stands a much, much better chance of getting that vote than Hillary. And you don't have a crystal ball. The DU "oracles" are almost invariably WRONG.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:07 PM
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6. You mean like they voted for Gore over Smirk? and Kerry over Smirk?
:wtf:
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:04 PM
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2. McCain is the favorite to win whether its HRC or BO.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:08 PM
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7. Not from what I've seen. Obama over McCain, except in one NPR poll, and
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:05 PM
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3. shhh
Be vewy vewy quiet, we're hunting wabbit! ;)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:05 PM
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4. I read today
that one out of six manufactoring jobs in the US has been lost in the last 8 years. I think that many people associate that with NAFTA and with Bush. I think that this is as much a reason why people want a change in the White House in 2008, as a "rabid, hysterical, irrational hatred." On MSNBC, they are pointing out thay Obama got more votes than McCain and Hucklebee combined. I think that indicates rational thought.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:10 PM
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9. I agree. That's my point. The Republicans know very well that they
are going to have a huge struggle to win the White House. But if they can't have it, they sure as hell don't want a Clinton in there. The only way to assure that Hillary won't be in the WH is if she's taken out in the primaries. Hence, the crossover votes favoring Obama.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:09 PM
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8. I think it's cut both ways
Some Reps hate Clinton so they voted for Obama, some Reps think Clinton is more conservative than Obama so they voted for Clinton.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:10 PM
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10. I agree. If you go to republican blogs or listen to talk radio, its not that they think Obama's
more beatable, but they have a very irrational hatred of Hillary Clinton.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:11 PM
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11. That rings true to me for some of them.
I think there are different reasons for all, but I know some R primary voters who are going to the polls and voting for Obama, and they're not Rushbots, and they're not clued into the R machine -- they're doing it 'cause they want to -- and your theory makes sense.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:11 PM
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12. let's see Dems are coming out two to one compared to repubs
And the repubs switching sides are coming out to put in Obama to beat him?


Someone .... anyone explain the logic. Why would we have such a huge turn out advantage and NOT have a crossover vote.

Occam's Razor! Because republicans are FUCKING PISSED OFF TOO! Stop the B.S. memes, the answer is too fucking obvious.

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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:15 PM
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13. No, they're coming out to put in Obama to make sure that Clinton
isn't the challenger in the GE.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 PM
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14. Even many Republicans are tired of war. They realize that it is not
being fought in their best interest. They are tired of Torture, and of the possible loss of privacy. They heard Bush said it would be a cakewalk, and him saying Mission Accomplished. They know that McCain is saying 100 years. They are tired that their dollars is buying as much, and that they nearly go broke when pumping their gas.

They may be stupid and mean spirited, but they are not totally retarded.
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NEOhiodemocrat Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:43 PM
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15. Here in Ohio
My sister and brother-in-law are switching over from R to D March 4th, and their reason is Bush. I talk to my sister every day and she now ends the conversation having 'our minute', "everything horrible for bush, everything horrible for bush". When bush went after Social Security he made a lot of enemies in our age group. Now they both agree they would vote for either Obama or Clinton rather than any Republican again. I love it!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:44 PM
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16. excuse me, but Hillary voted FOR the war, and deserves criticism
lots of people don't like Hillary. Let her be a senator, but it would be dangerous
to let her go any further.

She is part of why our country is bogged down like it is.

Bush Clinton Bush Clinton for 28 years? Thats enough!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 PM
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17. You are so right. The Repubs hate Hillary, and they fear Hillary.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:48 PM by smalll
They know that the chances are against them this time. They'd rather take a chance losing to Obama, who, if he wins on a wave of hype, (and given his "across the aisle" rhetoric) may as much govern in their favor as against it. A real Democrat or a pig in a poke? They'll take the pig.

And even if Obama doesn't lean their way once he rides into the White House, indebted to no one but Axelrod and Oprhah, they'll count on his inexperience. They'd Carterize him, then ride in four years later in 2012.

They hate Our Girl, and they fear her. Shouldn't that tell us something?
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