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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:13 PM
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Well.. Now That We Know Wisconsin Doesn't Count...
It's On to the Debates !!

Afterall, according to surrogates, Hillary didn't have a ground game there. She was outspent by Obama. They didn't campaign there. Wisconsin doesn't count.

The next two weeks will be absolutely, searingly brutal. Count on it. They would rather destroy Obama, and in the process themselves, than allow him to have the nomination. After that, she will come out looking to go for the KO in the debate.

Be prepared for anything. Also, can someone take that huge list of Obama Bills Introduced/Sponsored and the list of Illinois achievements and pare it down OR provide a link to a summary? We're going to need it. I'll work on it tomorrow if there's nothing available readily.

GOBAMA! :applause: :applause: Obama ahead by approximately 150 in PLEDGED delegates. He is obviously ahead in the popular vote.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:16 PM
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1. How soon before Hawaii doesn't count?
:shrug:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM
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3. About four or five hours, I think :-)
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM
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4. 10 hours?
Not good with time zones.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:38 PM
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19.  Only 5 hours when we have regular time..
my son lives there..and I got this from BarackO..

cha --

Today, the people of Wisconsin voted overwhelmingly in favor of a new kind of politics.

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We won't know until late tonight the results of today's Hawaii caucus, but we'll let you know how that turns out tomorrow.

If we win in Hawaii, it will be ten straight victories -- a streak no one thought possible, and the best position we can be in when Ohio, Texas, Rhode Island, and Vermont vote on March 4th.

Thank you for making this possible,

Barack

I'll be tonight B-)







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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM
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7. Hawai'i
is a caucus state. Automatically not-counting. :rofl:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 PM
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9. Hawaii never counted.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:40 PM
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22. Too tiny! It only counts for me
and a few others..Friggin Hawai'i gave us Obama!
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 PM
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10. CNN announced they will have results at 2-3am est
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM
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2. what is brutal is your continuous demeaning attacks.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:19 PM
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8. I understand you're upset and frustrated, but there is nothing demeaning about
my post. I am literally quoting the arguments that were given VERBATIM by Clinton surrogates for her loss today. If you didn't hear them, you weren't listening.

The major part of the post is spent asking Obama supporters for help in compiling factoids. Again, where is this demeaning attack you think you see?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:25 PM
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14. I am upset and frustrated and I am not a HRC supporter
seeing this mass Obama circle jerk on DU is sickening
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:39 PM
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20. I voted for Hillary in the WA caucus but her campaign is making huge blunders
and I don't understand it.

Can someone tell me why she is writing off these states? She can be competitive but whoever her people are they are screwing her campaign.



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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:47 PM
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24. You nailed it, Maddie. Hillary probabaly could have run a really good race had it
not been for Mark Penn, Carville, Wolfson and others who have clearly led her down the wrong path. She certainly could have done much better.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:56 AM
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25. I agree with that
The Clinton contact in my own LD is a really great guy (unlike the state coordinator who is a real jerk, all but ordering local LD and county chairs to get on board with the inevitable) but he had never heard of Mark Penn. He actually went to high school with Clinton, and I told him that if he had any influence at all he should get Clinton to dump those assholes.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:27 PM
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27. Carville is poison to the Democratic party I can't believe he
was chosen to help her.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:39 PM
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21. I know demeaning when I see it!! I expected the loss, but NOT the brutality of obama
supporters!

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:45 PM
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23. The "doesn't count" joke is a direct response to Clinton supporters...
After Super Tuesday I could not count the amount of threads that were posted about how Obama's victories don't matter because they were all from red states and caucuses.

Lack of civility goes both ways, methinks.

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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM
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5. That's it - - I'm picking up my cheese and going home.
Oh, wait - I'm already here. :P

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:20 PM
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11. WE LOVE WISCONSIN.. and CHEESE !! I"m eating an extra pound of cheese tonight
with my wine. I just hope its not California cheese, from those silly happy cows !!

Wisconsin Rules :yourock: :hi:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM
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17. Thank you,
and bon appetit.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:18 PM
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6. Ohio doesn't count next!!!!
This debate is going to be... interesting. I kind of wonder what the point is, honestly.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM
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12. Damn, our primary isn't until May 20. I might not get an opportunity
to not count, cause it could be over by then.

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM
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13. Unfortunately by down playing past Obama wins as not counting
it is coming back to haunt HRC in states where she was supposed to do well in such as Wisconsin. She is now looking like Gouliani and his strategy of putting all his cards into Florida. It's now Ohio, Texas and PA, and even in those states the polls are beginning to close.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 PM
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15. I have a feeling, looking at some of these polls in Texas, that there's a better than even bet
that the Lone Star State isn't going to "count" here in a few weeks....
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 PM
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16. Dayum ! I hate that for the Lone Star State.. but come join the club !
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:38 PM
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18. But tonight Washington counts
even though it doesn't count. :crazy:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:56 AM
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26. How many states that does make, that don't count now?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:33 PM
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28. HOW MANY STATE 'DON'T COUNT' WHEN OBAMA PEOPLE YELL AT HER TO DROP OUT?


POT MEET KETTLE
HYPOCRISY AT ITS HEIGHTS!
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