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Tue Feb-19-08 11:21 PM
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Andrea Mitchell reporting that Clinton campaign going to target Obama w/ Commander-in-Chief argument |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM by TeamJordan23
And say and try to make the argument that he is unfit to go against War Hero, John McCain. She also said that Hillary called Barack to congratulate him on his win tonight, but it was a very short call.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM
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1. LOL....She can never congratulate during her speeches. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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10. she's going to be a poor sport apparently... |
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shes was ordained as the Dem nominee years ago, but lo and behold here comes Obama, someone I didn't expect to see until '12 or '16, and she had to be very upset by that turn of events. I think if Obama wasn't around in this one, Edwards would have beat her, as the negative feelings about her are too large even in our own party. None of my family was going to VOTE, let alone vote for her in the primary, if she was our nominee. I would have, but she just is too divisive, and Bill......
well, Bill totally didn't help one bit!
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:37 AM
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40. Hillary is insecure, as evidenced by her self-cloistering at Wellesley. |
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She can't hang with real competition, outside carefully contrived environs.
- Dave
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 PM
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..they will highlight her military service?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 PM
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3. Also said that Obama camp said it did not intentionally interrupt Clinton's speech |
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But that the Clinton Camp knew what time Obama was going to go on, and they waited and started 10 minutes before he did. He went on at the time he had planned, he just didn't "wait" for Clinton to finish like she wanted him to do. She knew what time he was going to start, and she could have waited until he was finished, or started an hour earlier (as she was suppose to) and avoided the problem entirely.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:24 PM
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5. Did anyone catch the other tidbit... |
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The Obama campaign admitted that it's money raising reporting in January was off...
They didn't raise $1M a day or about $32M for the month...
They raised OVER $36M for the month!!!
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 PM
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7. Yep caught that...wait til February is over..he's gonna break records this month too |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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14. $36 mil for the month - that's the election right there |
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obama has the momentum, the ground game, the charisma, the golden tongue, hundreds of thousands more votes, and a boatload of cash
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:25 PM
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6. These approaches haven't helped her recently -- why does her campaign |
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continue down the same path?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:32 PM
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25. When you can't gain traction on issues and substance... |
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what else is there for her to do except go negative? Personally, I think her campaign was irreversably damaged the minute she started trying to claim "experience" that she can't substantiate. Also, it may have worked against her, that part of Obama's enormous appeal has been the view that he is somewhat an outsider to Legacy Washington - that he is sincere when he campaigns for change and progress. It's kind of hard to make the argument that you want to change the establishment when you are simultaneously trumpeting your long-term "experience" and bragging about your involvement in what is mostly perceived as a broken system.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:26 PM
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8. McCain is batshit crazy |
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I think Obama will do just fine...
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM
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27. I'm hoping he doesn't pull a Kerry |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:38 PM by casus belli
And by that I mean, try to take the high road when the right is taking below the belt shots at you. I believe Obama can win by a large margin, but the campaign will be tricky. You expect McCain to go negative and PACs will come out of the woodwork to help him do it, but Obama has largely made the claim that he wants to leave those sort of politics behind. By fighting back, it'll be hard to make an argument that you are rising above the same old politics, but he'll need to fight back lest we repeat 2004. I'm convinced he can do it, but I don't think it will come as easy as we'd like to think.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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9. Team Clinton is hurting the party's chance in November. |
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Making McCain's case is not a good thing.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:41 PM
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32. You have to look at the bright side... |
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the more he has to fight off now, the more dead issues there will be for McCain to try to exploit in the GE. I think Obama is doing well, and I don't mind that the Clinton campaign is throwing a couple hardballs - because ultimately, they will be alot softer than what the right will be throwing. The plagiarism charge for example...this is mostly not holding water. it gained SOME traction, but is already proving to be a dead issue. Now had this come up in the GE, it probably would have been much different.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:49 PM
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:50 PM by BattyDem
responded to wrong message. :blush:
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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11. Clinton would be a poll taking Commander-in-Chief, basing her |
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decisions on what would help her re-election.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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12. My new puppy could go up against Casper |
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Casper is lost in the twilight zone.
He needs to take his blanket and go to bed early.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM
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13. I have a transcript of their phone conversation... |
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Obama: Hello? Hillary: Barack, it's Hil. Obama: Oh, hey. Hillary: Congratulations -- Obama: Thanks. Hillary: -- on being a jerk. *click*
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:40 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:50 PM
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But that was funny. :spank: :spank: :spank: Bad Magic Rat!
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:38 AM
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:28 PM
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15. So what war did she ever fight in? |
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Oh right, she doesn't fight wars, she just votes for them.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:32 PM
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:28 PM
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16. Mrs. Greenspan has no credibility. She's a Cheney lackey. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:29 PM by TexasObserver
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:29 PM
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17. Because her credentials are voting for the IWR? |
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Yeah, that dog'll hunt.
How fuckin' stupid can she be?
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:29 PM
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18. What a sight that will be ... |
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... McCain, Bush, Bill and Hillary Clinton tag teaming against Barack Obama.
Past versus future.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:30 PM
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19. Well, this should be interesting. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 PM
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20. Well, I guess she can do that, but when I heard that, I thought, |
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"Well, Senator Clinton, what are YOUR qualifications to be Commander in Chief?"
I think she does have a lot of qualifications to be President in the large sense, but she has not served in the military, just as Senator Obama has not, so why are you better qualified to be CIC?
Not being snarky; just asking an honest question.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 PM
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21. I've heard rumors that they are going after his vietnam service record. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:31 PM
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22. How is she any better against a war hero? BAAAAD argument |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:32 PM
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24. Has the Hillary campaign gone off the deepend?! |
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Do they really think anyone concerned about who the CinC is would look at Hillary and take her over McCain by a better margin that Obama?
(This IS one area where sexism would be a disadvantage.)
Besides that, the Obama campaign can just point to the campaign donations from the military to refute her.
The military's top two candidates (from a campaign donation perspective) has been Ron Paul and Obama.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:33 PM
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26. Cool - Hillary wants to prepare the ground for McCain. |
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the rest of the Democratic party won't let her.
Besides, what is she selling? "I'm in favor of bombing as much as McCain is?"
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM
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28. Hillary is no longer a viable candidate |
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The best thing for the party is to quit now and endorse Obama. Not keep getting beat by 12+ points
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:39 PM
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29. And he will hammer her away on Iraq. |
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:40 PM
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I think the Generals would prefer Obama |
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more realistic in than McCain. They are tired of fighting futile wars for political whims.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:40 PM
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31. I think the Generals would prefer Obama |
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more realistic in than McCain. They are tired of fighting futile wars for political whims.
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:50 PM
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35. Bill Clinton didn't serve in the military and he was able to serve as CinC |
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Hillary didn't serve, either ... so what advantage does she have when competing with McCain? :shrug:
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 PM
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36. You mean Mrs. Cluster bomb, IWR, Kyl Lieberman Commander in Chief? |
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You mean, Mrs. Parrot George Bush on Foreign Policy Commander in Chief?
I got one thing to say:
bring it on!
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:54 PM
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37. Hillary's war record is impeccable |
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except for when she blew up John Kerry's swift boat
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Tue Feb-19-08 11:57 PM
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38. well, who can compare to her military service record? |
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Wed Feb-20-08 12:14 AM
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39. andrea has an insider in hillary`s campsite? |
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i`ll believe when this when it happens...
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:40 AM
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42. lol, does she really want to go down the iraq war road.....? |
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Thu Feb-21-08 02:42 AM
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43. Well, that would be interesting. |
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Hillary Clinton puffing up McCain in order to convince viewers that Barack won't be able to beat him.
HC: You can't beat McCain. I can! BO: Really? What makes him so tough? HC: He's strong! and he was a PoW! And he's super-tough on our enemies!! BO: I can tell you're impressed. HC: That's right. He's impressive. BO; And scary. HC: Yes, he is scary, and...er...oh fuck you, Mr Smartypants. BO: Hey, don't shoot the messenger.
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