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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:33 PM
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Damn Hillary, she goaded Obama into putting more policy into his speeches & made them longer
by about 15 minutes.

This will be a further strain on his vocal chords. It's very clever strategy.
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 PM
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1. Poor baby!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:14 AM
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6. ck out 2 others things Hillary got obama to do-see my posts downstream
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:36 PM
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2. the great thing is, Obama can always put more meat in his speeches
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM by Magic Rat
Hillary can't just suddenly become a wordsmith.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:13 AM
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5. Obama played follower the learder--delegates--Clinton issued statement--Obama followed
Obama played follower the learder--delegates--Clinton issued statement--Obama followed




http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02...


Clinton Spokesperson Rules Out Pursuit Of Obama's Pledged Delegates
By Greg Sargent - February 19, 2008, 10:55AM

Hillary spokesperson Phil Singer is adamantly denying a report this morning in The Politico quoting an anonymous campaign official suggesting that the Clinton campaign will pursue Obama's pledged delegates. Singer sends me this:

We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It's now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions.

It's worth noting that the Politico story quotes a Clinton official predicting that both campaigns will pursue the pledged dels. The Obama camp has not yet put out a statement on whether they'll pursue Hillary's pledged dels, though they very likely will soon.

More in a bit.

Late Update: The Obama campaign has ruled out this tactic, too. Obama spokesperson Tommy Vietor sends me this:

"We would absolutely not use these sorts of tactics. Senator Obama is focused on winning contests and earning the support of pledged delegates."

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:02 AM
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12. Um, yeah. Hillary floated that idea and then backtracked. Obama didn't rule it out beforehand,
because his campaign never brought it up.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:49 AM
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3. His speech tonight, going looser and longer and not telepromptered, was
a very smart strategy--he's doing so well, he didn't NEED to knock it out of the park with inspiration and careful, smooth delivery and applause lines--he deliberately decided to make a less-lofty red-meat speech. Almost a thumb in the eye to his critics, because they attempted to define him. He said, here's your fucking specifics, here's your fucking policies, I got 'em RIGHT HERE (he's always had them, in fact)--and I've got a MASSIVE audience for them too.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:54 AM
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4. She also got him to say publicly that he should be more careful when using material
for his speeches.

yup she did. He is listening.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:17 AM
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9. Well, I guess that's a victory for Hillary - no delegates for it though! :D (nt)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:28 AM
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10. you bet is is. and for Obama--he learns well
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:04 AM
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14. How did her Wisconsin strategy work out?
Are you going to tell me I was right now?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:15 AM
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7. Ha! That'll fix her!
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:16 AM
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8. Also the supporters will need to clap so much that their hands will hurt to much to vote
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 01:17 AM by Johnny__Motown
damn her
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:01 AM
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11. pretty much
:)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:03 AM
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13. And... She's lowered the bar for him at the debate.
They have this no substance thing going. Obama can easily turn into Al Gore and beat expectations.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:04 AM
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15. Obama spoke for over 45 minutes in Houston last night.
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 11:07 AM by Apollo11
I posted the whole speech over in the Political Videos Forum.

Part of it is like his old stump speech but now NEW FORMULA WITH ADDED SUBSTANCE! B-)

Here's the link:
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x95487
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