Any Washington the state results?? nm

[rhett o rick]

[grantcart]

1. 53 to 47 Obama /Clinton but they have no impact on delegates

[JVS]

2. victory!

[rhett o rick]

9. I was hoping for more votes for John Edwards. I know it has no actual impact. nm

[MadBadger]

3. Obama won the Caucuses last week, which count 68-32

Hes also winning the beauty contest 50-47

[grantcart]

4. by the way hnmnf have you seen this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4675112

[MadBadger]

5. And I bitched about walking 5 minutes in the cold to my polling station

[LadyVT]

6. Obama 50%, Clinton 48%--hardly the spread of the caucuses, .5 million votes

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. This is bad actually, even though it doesn't count.

Now Hillary will get to point at it and say, "See, this is how close it REALLY is, and if it weren't for those dang undemocratic caucuses it'd be over by now!"

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. If Obama wasn't on such a roll this would really be newsworthy

It is our first and perhaps only chance to compare how well Obama does in a primary having over double the level of participation level as a caucus held in the same state. Even though Obama is perceived to be much stronger now than he was on Super Tuesday when Washington held it's caucus, he is barely beating Clinton in the Washington primary compared - to swamping her in the Washington caucus. It is another interesting data point illustrating the different dynamics that come into play at caucuses compared to primaries.

[Renew Deal]

10. You guys have gotten crushed in WI, MD, VA, and other primaries

So there's not much of an argument.

[thevoiceofreason]

14. Bull

He didn't have his ground troops there getting out the vote, etc. Rather like Michigan and Florida.

[knowledgeispwr]

15. No, it's not a chance to compare a primary and a caucus

because for all we know, many caucus goers (and others) didn't participate in the primary because it doesn't count in Washington.

[rhett o rick]

16. With due respect the primary after the caucus is meaningless. Think about it.

I heard Democrats ask, "do i need to vote in the primary?" and the answer is of course "no".

If there wasn't caucuses I believe that the total turn out would have been double and the results similar to the caucus results.

Also, in the back wards Washington primaries, it is still possible for republicans to cross over and vote for Clinton. I'm just sayin.

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. Official Results: Obama 49.96 % - Clinton 46.93 %. Total votes 512,257

from tonight, the Washington State Democratic Primary results. Note that over a half million Democrats voted in Washington State's primary, at least 250% the number who participated in the Washington State Caucus, and Clinton finished FAR closer in the primary - losing by only 3%, than she did in the Washington Caucus. And that's not simply because Democrats didn't bother to participate because no delegates were awarded, over 135,000 more Democrats voted than Republicans. The CNN and New York Times web sites aren't even listing the Democratic results, I had to find a Washington State Government site to get the final results:

President - Democratic Party
Federal (Statewide)
Last updated on 2/20 12:27 AM
Candidate Votes Votes %

Joe Biden Democrat
1,447 0.28 %

Hillary Clinton Democrat
240,394 46.93 %

Christopher J. Dodd Democrat
473 0.09 %

John Edwards Democrat
8,999 1.76 %

Mike Gravel Democrat
787 0.15 %

Dennis J. Kucinich Democrat
2,766 0.54 %

Barack Obama Democrat
255,918 49.96 %

Bill Richardson Democrat
1,473 0.29 %

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total Votes 512,257 100%

(Total Votes Republican - 376,113 100%)

http://vote.wa.gov/elections/wei/results.aspx

[suston96]

12. Big difference between caucus and primary results in the same state....

Caucuses which most voters cannot attend do not reflect voter preferences or selection. Obviously primaries do. I winder what the delegate differences would be between the caucuses and the primary in WA?

[d.amber]

13. This does not reflect correctly WA choice

I'm a good example of this. I went to caucus as supported Obama and I'm even an Obama delegate. But I was an Edwards supporter. As the Primary doesn't count, I went ahead and voted for Edwards.

There always was a BIG fuss over the Primary because you had to declare yourself and accept a pledge on the OUTSIDE of the envelope of your vote. Alot of people were pissed and didn't vote at all or protested. I thought it was weird. I don't mind declaring myself as Democrat, but on the outside of the envelope where your return address could be compared to it?

I didn't mail my results but took it to the drop off box on the day of election. They told my husband that they never had so many drop off ballots. It's a big deal in little Granite Falls that they had to get a second ballot box as they filled that one up.

So the final results might be different then what these early results reflect. Washington is firmly Obama land.