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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:07 AM
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Memo to Clinton supporters...
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 06:32 AM by Obamaniac
While you spent the past three days trying to convince everyone that Obama borrowing two words from his good friend Gov. Deval Patrick (the two share speech writers and a campaign manager) warranted the same attention as the Watergate break-in, the Obama campaign was out doing what it does best: organizing and getting people out to vote.

Maybe that's why he won the elections today by such overwhelming margins...again. (Hawaii marks the third time Obama has won an election by 50% or more against Hillary).

I'm not trying to gloat but am stating the obvious: the Hillary Campaign is being run by total idiots.

She's very aware of the message aspects of running a national campaign, but she has failed miserably, and has been totally outplayed by Obama, in actually putting together an organization that can deliver votes.

She is in a death spiral now. There is no way out of this.

In the past couple of weeks we have heard several members of her campaign pretty much disparage any and all small states and red states in order to try to convince "super-delegates" to support them. I find this to be an absolutely astounding strategy. These people cut off their noses to spite their face. In their rash to convince people that Obama's victories are not that impressive in order to build up momentum with "super-delegates", a view that no one is buying incidentally, they manage to alienate all the other states that follow. There are more states after Ohio and Texas --- both "red states" by the way --- that the Clinton campaign will need to win. It makes you wonder what their strategy actually is. These people can't seem to walk and chew gum at the same time.

They should really stop playing these media games and trying to convince people that they are going to win, and actually win one or two of these. But honestly, I don't see how Hillary comes back from this.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:31 AM
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1. Ummmm...That is DEVAL Patrick.
If you are going to try to convince people regarding your opinion, at least get the names correct. I would not want you to sound like you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:32 AM
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2. Thanks for setting me straight...
I'd like to hear you refute anything else I wrote.
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:42 AM
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4. Don't care really will not vote for Obama. Unlike his shrill wife I know I will not vote for BO
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:44 AM
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5. I don't really care which Dem gets in the White House.
I just want a Dem. So I will not spend my time getting into a "tennis match" over your opinion vs. my opinion. I prefer to save my fighting spirit to kick Republican ass in the fall. We can not let McCain win. So I am sorry if you are disappointed that no one will get in a useless back and forth with you, but some of us are neutral and are lying in wait until our nominee is chosen. Then we all must be united and ready to fight because the Republicans are not going to go down easily. They will smear our nominee with everything they can and we had better be prepared. If Obama wins the nomination, it is only the first step. He has not won the prize yet. Let's just all stay focused.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:41 AM
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3. "These people cut off their noses to spite their face."
Well said.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:44 AM
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6. "Death spiral." Cool!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:47 AM
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7. Two words? You haven't done any research
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 06:47 AM by DemGa
It's the same campaign and worse. Same words, same speech affect, same message, same crowds chanting "yes we can." Mass. voters even talked like Obama maniacs about some Utopian new Massachusetts. Of course they're all disillusioned now -- it's a marketing ploy, and Mass. was the trial Balloon for the format. You've been scammed.

Again, clearly you haven't looked into this -- or you're in denial.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:47 AM
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8. Well said. Hillary's campaign has been a disaster, plain and simple. The WI swing of some 40%
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 06:48 AM by TheDonkey
is astounding. She was up in WI 20% not long ago and lost by 19%. Negative attacks, vicious surrogates, crazed supporters, these are not the strategies that are getting her votes. It is all backfiring. People are TIRED of these old political games.

We've had 8 years of a bully in the WH using fear, why does Hillary think using the same tactics to win the primary will work. Bullying people to vote for her, disparaging those who do not, scaring people about EXPERIENCE, it's all the same old thing.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:48 AM
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9. The Clinton campaign people still think it is 1992
And they are running the campaign that way too.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:42 AM
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10. Maybe they need to roll-out the Fleetwood Mac music again? (NT)
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:49 AM
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11. "I'm not trying to gloat..."
:eyes:

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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:53 AM
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12. can't wait to watch Clintons, Penn, Wolfson destroy the party on the way out.
The next two weeks will be gold for the Repubs, Hillary pulling out all the stops.


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:13 AM
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13. something Obama said yesterday--
He answered a question by saying that after March 4th they might have to come together and decide something...sounded to me like if he won TX and OH that their campaign would publicly call for Hillary to step aside for the good of the party. He'd have the moral high ground then--and I don't see how the Clinton camp could reasonably stand their ground and stubbornly try to fight it out under those conditions.
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