Latest anti-Clinton lie debunked: She did phone Obama to congratulate him on Wisconsin.

[MethuenProgressive]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/19/clinton-calls-to-congratu_n_87492.html

Moments after Sen. Barack Obama concluded his victory speech in Houston, Texas, his campaign received a call from Sen. Hillary Clinton congratulating him on his victory.

DUbamas are really poor winners.

[shadowknows69]

1. Yawn!

[polpilot]

26. She wants the VP slot from Obama...but America won't allow it.

Pro-War/Pro-Nafta Clinton is OVER. America moves forward.

[darknemus]

2. That's not the point

Why can't she acknowledge it in person? After all, Obama has said (on the couple of times he's actually lost to her.. lol) "I congratulate Senator Clinton on her victory this evening" Is that a difficult thing for her to do?

[MethuenProgressive]

15. The DUbama meme being chanted is: "OMG! Clinton fails to congratulate Obama on Wisconsin!!"

The point is: the meme, like the candidate, is false.

[Usrename]

33. She did not publicly congratulate Obama!

True!

Get over it!

[MethuenProgressive]

36. "OMG! Clinton fails to congratulate Obama on Wisconsin!!" False!

DUbamas change their stories faster than Obama can duck a tough vote.

[Usrename]

38. Nice strawman!

She still didn't publicly acknowledge his win.

It makes her look like a sore loser.

[MethuenProgressive]

41. Yeah, phoning him personally to congratulate him was a terrible thing to do.

A throw away line in a speech would've been less female.

[LanternWaste]

52. Hmmmm...

Has the winner of each state primary so far personally congratulated the other after a win?

If not, is there a reason specific to this state primary that a lack of congratulations would be considered bad form while the others aren't?

[Renew Deal]

3. Everybody knows that now.

Maybe you weren't here last night. Hillary didn't congratulate Obama in her speech (again). The news of the phone call broke later in the night. I'm glad you used one post for this.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. No-one said she didn't.

What they were saying was that she didn't acknowledge it in her speech. (Which isn't a lie.)

[MethuenProgressive]

21. "No-one said she didn't." Check the 'Greatest page' Spidy.

[Spider Jerusalem]

27. I would suggest that YOU actually bother to READ the post you're referencing.

The issue would seem to be PUBLIC acknowledgement. If you look, it quotes a CNN story that says the following:

Three times may make a trend: for the third primary/caucus night in a row, Hillary Clinton has taken the stage at a post-election rally and failed to mention her losses, or congratulate her winning opponent, Barack Obama.

She spent Tuesday night at a rally in Youngstown, Ohio, looking ahead to the primary there on March 4. She made no mention of Wisconsin.

Last Tuesday in El Paso, Texas, hours after getting swept in the Potomac primaries that night, she didn’t acknowledge her rival’s big day. The Saturday before that in Richmond, Virginia, she spoke at the state’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner and ignored Obama’s string of four primary and caucus wins that day.

After reports that focused on the second oversight, Clinton congratulated Obama at a press conference the next day.

Acknowledging your losses isn’t required in politics, though it is a courtesy that’s been practiced for decades.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/19/clintons-election-night-speech-fails-to-mention-election

I would suggest that you try actually reading first before deciding to get offended and post a response to something that actually wasn't the subject of the thread you're responding to.

[MethuenProgressive]

31. What's the title of that thread to which you refer?

The one all the DUbamas are rec'ing without reading?
It's not the only thread, nor the only post be any means, that's pushing today's lie.

[Spider Jerusalem]

50. Disingenuous nonsense.

The text of the story? Very clear.

And saying that Clinton has failed to even publicly acknowledge any of Obama's victories? Not a lie.

[greguganus]

5. Old news. Why can't she congratulate Obama in public? n/t

[zabet]

6. Welcome to ObamaUnderground.

Free kool-aid on the refreshment
table. Come on in and spread the
message of unity by propagating
Hillary hate.

[okoboji]

20. "Welcome to ObamaUnderground."

I was just thinking this last night ....


thank you

[MethuenProgressive]

23. Where'd all these DUbamas come from? A year ago he polled at 5% here.

DUbama-mania is a classic fad.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. Who had heard of him a year ago?

Who had heard of Jimmy Carter?

Who had heard of Bill Clinton?


Backbackbackbackbackbackback...

[Exilednight]

42. Personally, my candidate dropped out, and had to pick a new candidate. Here's the facts ...

Hillary has high negatives, myself included in that number.

In a 5-7 man race it is easy to cover up those negatives. Now it's down to one on one and she is losing.

[adabfree]

7. Oh goodie a private phone call...why not say it on stage..?

When he whipped her booty in the Potomac Primaries, she didn't congratulate hime until the following day...

There's a pattern here...sorry.

People complain about him being ungracious for "snubgate" and how he was ungentlmanly for cutting off her speech last night...yet nary a word about her ungracious behavior, after he wins..and wins big too!

[NashVegas]

10. Obama's Campaign Is All About YOU. Hillary's Is Not

Is what it basically comes down to.

[adabfree]

12. Another bitter one..they're all over the place today........lol

[rodeodance]

22. Very little seems to satify many of them. She is down but many want blood. Go figure.

[MethuenProgressive]

24. I love the Ignore feature,

I should've started using it months ago.

[rodeodance]

43. actually i have not used it. but these threads demanding Hillary should bow out

for the sake of the party are over the top. For my mental health. i just started using it.

[MethuenProgressive]

55. Obama's campaign is all about how great Obama's campaign is.

Nothing more.

[meow mix]

8. a private call? thats the best she can do? then shes a poor loser.

theres no way around it...

[MethuenProgressive]

16. The truth is she personally called to congratulate him on Wisconsin.

You don't hear Obama whining about it - just the DUbama herd.

[shenmue]

9. Taa-daaa!

Notice the posts in this thread are mostly either denials that anyone said otherwise, or expressions that they don't care.

Thanks for doing the right thing for once. It's gone out of style around here.

[Kittycat]

11. No. I was more appauled that she didn't bother to thank the 41%

of Wisconsin voters that voted for her. That was my major beef last night. No class, no grace, no respect - not even for those that voted for her. Maybe she'll lose by more next time. Because just her mannerisms alone are not becoming of a future president, and scream of *. Speaking of *, she plagiarized his "Hard Work" mantra in her speech. Couple that with her inept campaign - and the picture is quite clear, try wiping the fog off of your eyes to see it.

[Perky]

13. Oh come on. it is one of those things that politicians do in private

and then are supposed to tell everyone about that night. But it is more than tradition and courtesy

A private attaboy is certainly appropriate. It is the lack of public acknowledgement that is being perceived as being a "sore loser"

She score points for appearing gracious.

The other side of it is that if she cocedes graciously t give her more room to attack durin febates. Not conceding graciously and then attacking in the debate doe not go over well with the voters.

[Apollo11]

14. There will be lots of time for Hillary to say nice things about Barack after March 4th.

Wisconsin has proved that Hillary cannot count on white voters to pull her over the finish line.

But still we should give it 2 more weeks and see what happens in Texas and Ohio.

[bowens43]

17. Oh my !! Iguess I better switch to supporting Hillary!!!

ROFLMAO!!

[CreekDog]

18. that was announced in the tv coverage

i think the issue was "that thing which is never spoken of" in her post election speeches...Hillary losing.

[egramling]

19. It's called a concession speech for a reason-

She should get used to making them!

[yourguide]

25. and Hillary is a poor loser

sorry, no congrats? moves her speech up to try and preempt barack. doesnt thank the people in wisconsin who DID vote for her?

sorry...this is poor politics and poor sportsmanship all the way around. she should fire penn and wolfson asap.

[Occam Bandage]

28. Nobody claimed she didn't phone him. The problem is that for the third primary in a row,

her concession speech did not concede, congratulate her opponent, or thank the supporters in the state she had lost.

[MethuenProgressive]

29. "Clinton fails to congratulate Obama on Wisconsin victory!!"

[demokatgurrl]

30. I can't understand why she did that- isn't that what you do

when the entire race is over? Is she saying something? (And I am a CLINTON supporter).

[HeraldSquare212]

32. It wasn't a lie - it was an observation about her speech.

[Thrill]

34. Why is it so hard to congratulate him during her speeches?

Thats one thing she hasn't learned from Edwards. Who was always gracious and good sport. He'll have a top position in the Obama administration

[Straight Shooter]

35. Aw, jeez, even if she had congratulated him in her speech, they'd criticize the words she used.

"She wasn't conciliatory enough." "She didn't REALLY congratulate him." "She got a dig in at him while she was congratulating him." "ZOMG, did you see the look on her face, you could tell she really didn't mean it!" "WTF! Just a few words, can't she be more gracious than that?" "Why is she spending so much time congratulating him, it sounds like she's brown-nosing for a VP slot."

Why didn't she say this, or this, or this, or ....... whatever.

[RoadRage]

37. The statement was "Clinton didn't congratulate or even acknowledge the Wisconsin win in her speach".

It said nothing about if she did or did not call afterwards when no one else could hear.

There was no "lie".. the headline speaks for itself. Go ruffle your own feathers.. but don't accuse people of lying when that's obviously not the case.

Join up with the other Hillary supporter who thinks that Obama's mom wasn't a teenager when he was born and that Obama wasn't 2 when his dad splits.

I guess when you're losing, it really is easier to just spew out easily debunked lies rather then face the fact that your candidate is going down.

[Political Heretic]

39. I agree we got some poor sports in our midst. On both sides.

Fortunately, I was never involved in this whole fray about Clinton and congratulations and all, so...

[snappyturtle]

44. I think in the political world it used to go like this: Loser phones

winner; offers congrats; goes to supporters and says call was made to winner.

Instead she calls him after he speaks although the winner was projected and called before her speech.
That method saved her face in front of her supporters and stopped the huge rallying cry at the Obama speech that would have insued upon announcement of a concession phone call. Well, that backfired. Obama took the reigns and spoke and her speech was stopped nationwide.

I must have missed something...what's this DU Obama supporters are really poor winners thing? (I haven't read the replies yet so if you have addressed this please ignore.)

[DS1]

45. God you're such a whiner

As if people were supposed to know about this?

[Lerkfish]

46. playing the victim thang is not working out so well

just sayin.

[Infinite Hope]

47. Because the media harped on her for not conceding last night or in the past.

She called effectively an hour and a half (perhaps more) after she began her speech.

[goldcanyonaz]

48. Sorry, but we're sticking with the "Hillary is a bitch" meme around here. Woohoo!

[AtomicKitten]

49. She has not thanked him as per tradition in a concession speech x 3 now.

Don't let something as basic as common courtesy get in the way ... Hillary sure as hell doesn't.

[ShortnFiery]

51. A TRUE Leader, IMO, exudes MORE "grace" when the chips are down, than when winning.

People who are mostly self-serving and egocentric to the point that their intellect is all that carries them through make POOR Leaders and/or Managers. The bosses that I have the most respect for are those who, when things go wrong, stay upbeat, positive and keep it real. They RALLY people around them who "want to help" because you respect the inherent INTEGRITY of your leader.

IMO, Hillary Clinton shows no grace nor does she demonstrate any leadership traits that inspire either loyalty or motivate her surrogates.

No wonder she's losing big and will bitterly fight to the end ... essentially The Clintons, by their very "take no prisoners" nature, will "lose UGLY."

Stay tuned. :(

[AtomicKitten]

53. Obama has demonstrated genuine grace and leadership.

Hillary? Not so much.

:hi:

[MethuenProgressive]

56. Yeah, his leading the Swiftboating of the Clintons on Race was wicked graceful.

[krkaufman]

54. What, exactly, is being debunked here?

Did someone claim that she hadn't called him, after they had both given their speeches, to congratulate him?